AMD FX 8350 poor performance? please help!

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I'm convinced that the 8350 is my problem. I've spent £650+ over the last week attempting to iron out the lag in bf4 especially in the built up areas of many of the maps, such as zavod 311, siege of shanghai and hainan resort. Other games under perform, just like it does with others with the same processor, but it depends on how cpu hungry the game is and I know assassins and bf are a nightmare for cpu sucking.

I've replaced my motherboard from the asus m5a78L LX to the asus m5a99x evo R2.0 for the 990x chipset, as well as upgraded to the gigabyte R9 290x 4gb battlefield 4 edition from the vapor-x 280x - which made absolutely no difference either. I've got windows booting from a samsung 840 pro 240gb as well as a hitachi 7200rpm analogue HDD which has only expected differences, such as boot times and map loading times.

I've set up all of the correct XMP profiles for RAM; I've even o/c'd my 8350 to 4.4ghz. I have did a fresh install of original windows 7 home premium 64 bit with all of the hotfixes and SP1.

I've disabled pagefile, tried alternate settings and no result. I am being negative here so just to throw in a possitive note - silk road and rogue transmission work flawlessly on maxed out settings and never drops for a single second below 60fps with vsync on lol. Even paracel storm goes horrible art flag 'B' in conquest.

Temps and usage for the amd 8350 seem to be great, with low temperatures and after overclocking it seems like battlefield 4 doesnt even use more than 60% of each core. I had thought that perhaps that is the issue?

I've honestly exhausted all other options and feel like I've hit a brick wall now lol!!!!!!

So in a nutshell, I started with this problem, and since updraded my graphics card, my motherboard and PSU to be left with exactly the same issue, despite reinstalling original windows and making sure the bios and all of my componants are running the latest compatible version of all software. I've tried overclocking the 8350 but it ain't budgin on performance, and quite frankly feels like i'm flogging a dead horse lol.

Is it me, is it my system? is the ANYTING i can try?? how do i test my cpu, and if i did, how would i know what was going wrong??

Any help would be amazing.

thanks.

Here's my spec which ive uploaded to my flickr account http://
 
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it sounds like with the performance you're wanting, you would of been better off a long time ago going to an i5 intel and overclocking it rather than wasting all the money on new AMD cpus, high end motherboards, and newer high end GPUs.

I have pretty much constant 60fps on ultra 1080p bf4 with my stock 3570k, and hd7950,stock as well...I haven't had a need to overclock at all.... I say AMD is for pc builds on a budget, if you want performance, all fanboy wars aside, intel is just better period, and 99.9% of the benchmarks online would agree with that. AMD just doesn't have good enough single thread performance for the level you're looking for.
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Thanks for the reply Rolli. It is very symptomatic of hardware. My mobo ethernet drivers are most recent, and my ping as of now is 8, with a D/L speed of 62.13mb/s and an upload of 2.98mb/s. My PC is hard-wired and nicely tucked into my router's DMZ.

It occurs mostly (98%) in multiplayer, granted, but cpu usage is by far more extensive than in single player. In fact single player runs beautifully.

I truly feel like I've done everything within my means to rectify the issue hence why I had looked into that being an issue, after finding out just how much our internet stability can effect graphical performance.

The whole issue seems to be a simulation of exactly what I went through when BF3 came out, which is why i ditched the FX 4100 x4 core and went with the current processor (after upgrading my GPU from the 5850 1gb to the 7970 with little effect) and honestly the performance increase was astonishing at the time lol.

 
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^^ The TS review is not a good one, since they benched SP, which is GPU bound. BF4 multi is VERY CPU dependent.

http://pclab.pl/art55318-3.html

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I'm not convinced anyone is going to get 70+ fps in bf4 with the bottom athlon cpu's rolli. I'd bet my PC that they certainly weren't going to in multiplayer.

Interesting viewing, however. After looking at what gamerk316 just shared, now thats bang-on what I'm experiencing with mine. I think I'm starting to get closer to what it is i need to do now though. There's just that little detail where some seem to have no issues with the 8350 whatsoever.

thanks again mate. your replies are very gratefully recieved.

 
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It dips from a continuous 60fps to 30-35-40 depending on the map. Bearing in mind that I'm referring to conquest, it happens specifically at B on paracel storm, when looking toward the dam on the dam map, when looking at the outside of the refinery where C and D are situated on Zavod 311, when looking at the large tower in siege of shanghai (even when it isn't in sight), annywhere near the hotel on hainan resort is quite frankly awful.

Doesn't happen on single player - Doesn't happen on operation locker - Doesn't happen on silk road - Doesn't happen on rogue transmission and doesn't happen on golmund railway lol. Dragon pass is ok too, although guilin peaks is pretty nasty around the caves at D.

 
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I'm sorry dude. You're correct. I'm referring to the AMD FX black edition 8350 x8 core processor O/C @ 4.4ghz
 
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Yeah rolli, apparently people have been all over that site criticising it as unreliable, at least when the benches were initially released. I've not a clue. I've also heard the other end of the spectrum, that an i5 can bottleneck in BF4 - who knows.
 
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And i want to be able to say otherwise dude, but the evidence is completely in intel's favour, and I'm not a fan of anything. I just want my stuff to work right lol. Minecraft is a perfect example of which CPU is best since it is very CPU dependent. My laptop has the i7 4770k haswell and minecraft works without a single framedrop, infact my laptop doesn't even get warm and even my 9 and 11 year old daughters have pointed out how "crappy" minecraft looks when playing it using the 8350 :/ its actually totally deflating to even use so they fight over who gets to use the laptop, and who gets to use my PC as they both have minecraft accounts haha. My oldest just says that she doesn't like how "it doesn't run very smooth" lol.

only thing I don't understand is how my CPS isn't even peaking past 60% usage or 51 degrees O/C. its ruined my life, and my bank lol. Wish I'd kept the vapor-x R9 280x and bought a pcie 3 intel board and an i5 haswell
 
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Hey, at least your power supply didn't blow out your CPU and motherboard :lol: That's the situation I'm in.

Could I ask what kind of FPS you get in minecraft? Also I know absolutely nothing about BF4, never got around to playing it. It seems you've done just about everything you could do other than replace the cpu+mobo, which isn't an ideal solution anyway. BF4 is still buggyand people are still getting issues - I believe there was someone here a week or so ago that had an OC'd 3570k and 2 780's in SLI and was getting similar FPS to you.

I assume you've turned down AA/AF and turned off V-Sync already?
 
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it sounds like with the performance you're wanting, you would of been better off a long time ago going to an i5 intel and overclocking it rather than wasting all the money on new AMD cpus, high end motherboards, and newer high end GPUs.

I have pretty much constant 60fps on ultra 1080p bf4 with my stock 3570k, and hd7950,stock as well...I haven't had a need to overclock at all.... I say AMD is for pc builds on a budget, if you want performance, all fanboy wars aside, intel is just better period, and 99.9% of the benchmarks online would agree with that. AMD just doesn't have good enough single thread performance for the level you're looking for.
 
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