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Hi guys im after a budget build pc

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I dont have much money and need a good cheap build that i can upgrade over time,
i would like to play battlefield - cod on medium setting on 1080p. with good fps rate, then will over time upgrade the pc build to play them on ultra. i have seen one on ebay... How do APU work do i need
a graphic card with a APU build.. if not can you crossfire them to improve graphics.
thanks guys. i have around £300 i have a copy of windows 7..


is this a good entry build.. if not please could you help me.thanks guys.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-8GB-1TB-Desktop-Gaming-PC-Computer-AMD-HD-/191025096255?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2c79fba63f
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  1. First of all, an APU is not a good platform to upgrade. Basically an APU is a low end CPU with better than average integrated graphics built in. You can add a low end GPU to crossfire with the integrated graphics but it usually results in little to no performance gain and is generally a waste of time and money.

    That ebay build will get you low settings at best in those games.

    You could add a mid range GPU later on but the PSU would also need to be replaced as it is low quality junk. The CPU can only be upgraded to an a10 APU and that is NOT a very good CPU alone (when using with a GPU), and would only be able to support a mid range GPU without being a bottleneck.
  2. Best answer
    Don't use an APU they are very bad for future upgrading. I have a build which would be great for you, it is similar to the one I am currently using.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£80.39 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.50 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.26 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£79.99 @ Dabs)
    Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£26.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £338.79
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-18 18:09 GMT+0000)

    Slightly over budget but it was very hard to build one for under £300. Anyway, this computer is capable of getting you 30 FPS on high settings BF4 or 40-45 FPS on medium.
  3. Oh yeah and btw, do not go for that one on Ebay. It won't even be able to handle Battlefield on the lowest of settings.
  4. Computer__GUY said:
    Don't use an APU they are very bad for future upgrading. I have a build which would be great for you, it is similar to the one I am currently using.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£80.39 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.50 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.26 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£79.99 @ Dabs)
    Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£26.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £338.79
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-18 18:09 GMT+0000)

    Slightly over budget but it was very hard to build one for under £300. Anyway, this computer is capable of getting you 30 FPS on high settings BF4 or 40-45 FPS on medium.


    This is a great option but I would not really advertise that it can get 30fps on high. It will be a very unstable 30fps with lag spikes making it not really playable. This is a medium settings computer. NOT high.
  5. Computer__GUY said:
    Don't use an APU they are very bad for future upgrading. I have a build which would be great for you, it is similar to the one I am currently using.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£80.39 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.50 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.26 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£79.99 @ Dabs)
    Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£26.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £338.79
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-18 18:09 GMT+0000)

    Slightly over budget but it was very hard to build one for under £300. Anyway, this computer is capable of getting you 30 FPS on high settings BF4 or 40-45 FPS on medium.


    thanks mate i dont mind medium settings,
    is that all i will need to start playing games..
    thanks
  6. tiny voices said:
    Computer__GUY said:
    Don't use an APU they are very bad for future upgrading. I have a build which would be great for you, it is similar to the one I am currently using.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£80.39 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.50 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.26 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£79.99 @ Dabs)
    Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£26.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £338.79
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-18 18:09 GMT+0000)

    Slightly over budget but it was very hard to build one for under £300. Anyway, this computer is capable of getting you 30 FPS on high settings BF4 or 40-45 FPS on medium.


    This is a great option but I would not really advertise that it can get 30fps on high. It will be a very unstable 30fps with lag spikes making it not really playable. This is a medium settings computer. NOT high.


    I am running a similar setup with an FX 6300 and 7770 and it can play on high at 30 fps with the odd lad spike every now and again like you said but it is bearable. But anyway, I would rather run it on medium at 40+ fps.
  7. Newbie-Pc-Gamer said:
    Computer__GUY said:
    Don't use an APU they are very bad for future upgrading. I have a build which would be great for you, it is similar to the one I am currently using.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£80.39 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.50 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.26 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£79.99 @ Dabs)
    Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£26.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £338.79
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-18 18:09 GMT+0000)

    Slightly over budget but it was very hard to build one for under £300. Anyway, this computer is capable of getting you 30 FPS on high settings BF4 or 40-45 FPS on medium.


    thanks mate i dont mind medium settings,
    is that all i will need to start playing games..
    thanks


    Yes for gaming at medium settings it will be fine. Later on you can change the PSU and GPU for better performance.
  8. Newbie-Pc-Gamer said:
    Computer__GUY said:
    Don't use an APU they are very bad for future upgrading. I have a build which would be great for you, it is similar to the one I am currently using.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£80.39 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.50 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.26 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£79.99 @ Dabs)
    Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£26.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £338.79
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-18 18:09 GMT+0000)

    Slightly over budget but it was very hard to build one for under £300. Anyway, this computer is capable of getting you 30 FPS on high settings BF4 or 40-45 FPS on medium.


    thanks mate i dont mind medium settings,
    is that all i will need to start playing games..
    thanks


    Yes this build should be a good starting point to PC gaming and will be fully upgradeable for the future.
  9. would i need a disk drive also..
  10. Yes, to install windows. They are VERY cheap though.

    http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-optical-drive-ihds11804 is all you need
  11. Yes I would advise getting a disk drive although there are other ways to install Windows such as using a USB memory stick.
  12. Thanks for your time in replying guys.
    i think i will start with this build as i dont have much more
    to spend at first but over the year i will upgrade the parts.
    which part would be best upgrade first when it comes to it

    thanks
  13. YOu will need to upgrade the GPU first for better game performance. In order to do this, you will also need to replace the PSU with a higher wattage unit.
  14. what wattage unit would you recommend
    thanks for your help mate
  15. Newbie-Pc-Gamer said:
    what wattage unit would you recommend
    thanks for your help mate


    You will want a 500-600w unit from Corsair, Antec, XFX, Seasonic ONLY for a mid-high range GPU. Also stay away from Corsair CX units when upgrading. They are pretty low quality and made with inferior capacitors that like to fail.

    I would replace the cx430 in that build you are looking at with an Antec VP-450. It is MUCH better quality.
  16. Newbie-Pc-Gamer said:
    what wattage unit would you recommend
    thanks for your help mate

    a 550w PSU, maybe a 650W PSU for later upgrading space
  17. go to this site http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2yXxu
    amazing gaming pc runs all games runs bf4 on ultra too

    AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor

    ECS A55F2-M4(1.0) Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard

    Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory

    Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

    Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card

    Apevia X-TRPJR-NW-BK/450 ATX Mid Tower Case w/450W Power Supply

    LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer
  18. asad dab said:

    go to this site http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2yXxu
    amazing gaming pc runs all games runs bf4 on ultra too

    AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor

    ECS A55F2-M4(1.0) Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard

    Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory

    Western Digital AV-GP 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

    Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card

    Apevia X-TRPJR-NW-BK/450 ATX Mid Tower Case w/450W Power Supply

    LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer


    That PSU is 100% junk and will likely fail and ruin he whole computer. The PSU is the most important part of a computer BY FAR. NEVER buy a cheap junk one. Stick ONLY with Antec, XFX, Corsair, Seasonic.
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