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Sorry for asking this again, but I accidentally clicked solved on the last one when I still needed answers

I've been reading 16 is overkill, but I don't want anything to slow my build down. It's going to be doing some video editing and uploading as well live streaming (once I figure out how to do it and get the right idea). But I realised if I changed the spec to 8GB I could save some money and up the Wireless card to a better one and maybe double storage capacity to 2TB and save about £23 and it would come in cheaper than the Intel build I'd picked out. It's an AMD build if you haven't guessed :)

It would still come out cheaper than the premium Intel build without halving the RAM to match the Intel build. Although the i5 build packs 2TB storage, no wireless (but easily added cheap) and 8GB RAM and is about £100 cheaper
 
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If you have the budget get the 16GB, then there's nothing wrong with getting more RAM, other than having to spend more money. If your budget doesn't allow, then get 8GB. It's a safe amount of safe for games in the coming years, as we're only just reaching a 4Gb min requirement.
 
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what kind of video editing will you be doing? 8GB will most probably be enough, as video editing is for most things (filtering etc) a highly CPU / GPU intensive job. If you 're just cutting pieces together, your hard drive will be the point of interest, not your GPU / CPU / RAM, and 16GB may help you with things like QHD videos, as windows will buffer your stuff and decrease the IO on your drive.
And yes, go for intel if possible: although I am an AMD fanboy, most video editing software today is optimized for intels AVX and AVX2 extensions, which will make it faster than what AMD can provide you (unless you are willing to use open-source alternatives and recompile them from scratch, but I suppose you don't).
 
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To date, it's usually been videos involving cutting videogame footage together, editing it, adding graphics/text, music and may include 3D graphics in future once I learn how. The volume of vids may vary though. Remember this machine also needs to be able to live stream without bogging down
 
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If you're paranoid, get 16Gb. It's not going to disadvantage your system, all you're doing if spending a little more money.
 
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live streaming depends also on what you are actually doing: resolution/quality/compression do you want to transfer? (eg: youtube resolution? HD resolution?). Do you want to work on the pc editing videos AND live recoding for streaming at the same time?

if you 'd go for 8GB, you can eventually get another 2 sticks (I guess, most desktop mainboards come with 4 slots) later on.

But as you stated you wanted to start working with 3D graphics, your main point of interest is your CPU and GPU openCL performance, not RAM or HDD. video streaming servers exist for more than 10 years, you'll have to choose a very special one in order to make it incapable to perform video streaming
 
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The Intel chip that was included in the i5's costs was a 3rd gen chip. If I went for the 4670k then it would make it about £50 more expensive than the AMD build, unless I lost the ability to overclock and went for something like the 4570 (overclocking at this time is of no use to me, but, who knows, I may want it in future) then it works out £11 more with 8GB and 2TB of storage (halving that would bring it in cheaper than AMD by £4). The only way I could up the RAM to 16GB or get the 4670k is by downgrading the GPU to the GeForce 660 OC instead of the 760 OC

 
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ok, assuming you will be performing 3d video editing:
- go for an AMD GPU. amd's openCL performance is much better than nvidia's, CUDA is not that often used (eg: adobe's CS has no support for CUDA, only openCL)
- get the 4670K. you WILL want the intel AVX2 extensions.

And yes, you'll have to give up 8GB of ram. too bad, it won't be a big sacrifice in your situation, I think. you can always add 8GB later on.
 
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What will be happening is it will be hooked up to my capture card capturing footage from the games console and streaming that straight to either Twitch or YouTube. If not, then it will be capturing for editing later. I capture in 1080i so edit in that resolution as well, and depending on what Twitch and YouTube allow will stream it out in that resolution when I'm doing live streams. As both the games console and the computer have to share a monitor, I'll leave the computer to get on with sending out the stream and use my laptop to play the stream back to me by going to the site where the stream is being sent

There may be instances where I'll leave it to cut a video while I want to do something else at the same time (browsing, watching YouTube, maybe even a movie)
 
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Should I sacrifice the ability to overclock as well then? There's no way I can get an overclockable 4th gen intel into the build without sacrificing something else. I'd have to lose the graphics card for a less powerful one which compromises the other reason for building this machine (gaming)
 
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now this is a different story:
- you want overclocking
- you want gaming
my advice was only for video rendering :) yes, keep the amd one, you 'll lose AVX2, but software will use your GPUs openCL capabilities

*edit: and for the vga card: it's your choice, nvidia's kepler is probably better for gaming, while amd owns at openCL (video rendering).
 
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