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January 19, 2014 6:42:20 AM

Hello everyone, so I am a noob and have never built a pc or even seen the parts of one before. I have done a lot of research and taken my time (like 1 year) to get the courage and the parts to build my very own rig!

However before I order my parts I would like to be 100% sure everything will work or if there is anything better I can buy, so please help a noob out and let me know if everything is okay so I can order the parts and start building. Also I will infact be overclocking the CPU, and don't worry I have read about o/c extensively and I hope the h100i should be able to keep it cool enough. + is there any fans I can buy to replace the ones on the h100i / case to improve cooling?

One thing I am wondering is if the psu has enough Watts to handle an o/c'd system. Thanks for the time guys!

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2DMDd

Also will this be better than the gigabyte mobo I have chosen? -

-MSI Z87-G45 GAMING - motherboard - ATX - LGA1150 Socket - Z87 - LGA1150 Socket

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January 19, 2014 6:51:59 AM

I must say, you have put up a very good system... Don't worry, everything is perfect in that build. PSU wattage is more than enough, even for OC.
However you can replace the case intake fans with corsair SP 120 fans which are high static pressure fans. You can also add a pair of them to the H100i for a push-pull configuration. No need to change the fans that come with H100i as they are the same as SP 120.

Gigabyte is a better brand than MSI. So, better to go with Gigabyte. However you can go for Asus. they are even better.
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January 19, 2014 7:00:00 AM

Alright thanks now I got peace of mind that the build should work. You say an Asus mobo will be better, but as I did a quick search for z87 I found quite a few made by Asus, so is there any one in particular that is above the others? If so could you please link me to it, thanks.
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January 19, 2014 7:04:22 AM

Donalddontgiveaduck said:
Alright thanks now I got peace of mind that the build should work. You say an Asus mobo will be better, but as I did a quick search for z87 I found quite a few made by Asus, so is there any one in particular that is above the others? If so could you please link me to it, thanks.


I need to know your max budget for motherboard..
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January 19, 2014 7:11:14 AM

Well I'm looking for something high end, there is no budget in a sense, I don't want the best but something close to it. Oh and preferably not the one with all the "armour" crap on it, thanks.
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January 19, 2014 7:15:57 AM

[PCPartPicker part list](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2DMDd) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2DMDd/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2DMDd/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
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**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670...) | £167.99 @ Aria PC
-good
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100...) | £87.99 @ Amazon UK
-good, though if you go air with a noctua nh-d14 it cools just as well and is cheaper. con is that its huge.
**Thermal Compound** | [Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-thermal-paste-for...) | £8.92 @ Scan.co.uk
-pick what performs best. i always use artic silver but there are plenty of good choices out there.
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga...) | £134.00 @ Amazon UK
-i normally prefer asus however this works.
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz16gx3...) | £122.59 @ Scan.co.uk
-for gaming 16gb is completely overkill. 2x4gb (8gb total) is fine for gaming. however if you plan on 3d modeling, video editing or perhaps very large image manipulation in photoshop then 16gb would come in handy. your choice. also sometimes you may find 1866mhz ram on sale for the same prices as 1600. if you do then definitely pick that up.
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-d...) | £70.09 @ Amazon UK
-great drive however realize that after the 80% capacity rule and a 30gb os install you are only left with about 70gb of free space to use up. if this is fine then dont worry about it. if you would like more than get the 250 instead.
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-interna...) | £61.64 @ Aria PC
-this works fine.
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp427...) | £398.35 @ Amazon UK
-good but please see note1 below.
**Case** | [Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-750d) | £133.09 @ CCL Computers
-while definitely a very solid well built case with half decent airflow if you plan for any sort of high overclocking i would HIGHLY suggest a case with an open mesh front for 100% clear airflow through it. your choice.
**Power Supply** | [Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm...) | £93.98 @ Dabs
-750w is more than enough. however see note 2 below.
**Optical Drive** | [LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-gh24ns...) | £17.35 @ Amazon UK
-anything works here.
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | £1295.99
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-19 15:00 GMT+0000 |

note 1: for about the same price you can pick up a r9-290x from a few vendors. performance is a bit more in some games (even before mantle). that price was for the reference cooler though so you may need to see how much a non-reference cooler card will cost. just a suggestion , your choice.

note 2: please read this. http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx the rm 750 is a tier 3 unit which while not bad it would be suggested that you pick from the tier 2 list at least if you are going to be pushing the system hard. my thoughts are that you should be fine with what you have unless in the future you decide to put in a second 780 in the future in which case i'd go with a tier 2 unit.
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January 19, 2014 7:21:02 AM

Donalddontgiveaduck said:
Well I'm looking for something high end, there is no budget in a sense, I don't want the best but something close to it. Oh and preferably not the one with all the "armour" crap on it, thanks.


Well if budget is not an issue then the best you can get is:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87del...
Its a very good board which is very overclock friendly and has all the great features. Though its not the best. its pretty close.

Another good one is this:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximu...
One neg point with this one is that its a micro ATX board, so expandability is limited. but you can easily do a crossfire or SLI.

And you can also pick this:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximu...
Very nice board. Has all the features within a budget price
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January 19, 2014 7:25:13 AM

the maximus hero is a very good board for the price. it has quite a few of the ROG features on it that the z87deluxe might not have. however, unless you really need the extra features it provides the board is more of a want than a need. the deluxe or what you have right now would technically work perfectly fine.
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January 19, 2014 7:47:59 AM

@ssdx, wow thanks for that breakdown, I will look into tier 2 psu's and then probably get something along those lines. The reason I don't want an r9 290x is the fact that I am more comfortable on nvidia since 99% of the people I know have tried and tested them the difference isn't that much so that's the reason I stick with that. Also I hear great things about the nocta cooler however since my case has a window I prefer the asthetics of the h100i even though it is over priced.. but I mean damn that nocta is huge and ugly, so more cons than pros for me. Other than that I do agree with everything else you have said and I appreciate the breakdown you did. The 750D case is also because of asthetics, I mean it is really hard for me to move away from it since I don't really see much else with that much sophisticated style around, I'm not a fan of those light up sharp edged sterotype gamer pc cases. The ram I also think is a bit much, I might go down to 12gb because I have a computer with 8gb ram at the moment and I often hit 90%+ memory usage which is a little annoying for me.

@Muku I was looking at youtube reviews of the asus z87 delux board as you posted that and to me it looks very high quality so thanks I think that will be my chosen mobo.

And as for the psu I think I will be going with http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-s... Hope that's a good choice


Another habit I have is leaving the computer on sleep mode at night so the next day its quicker for me to turn on, will this be a problem with the custom build or will it be fine to do so?
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January 19, 2014 7:56:22 AM

Donalddontgiveaduck said:


@Muku I was looking at youtube reviews of the asus z87 delux board as you posted that and to me it looks very high quality so thanks I think that will be my chosen mobo.

And as for the psy I think I will be going with http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-s... Hope that's a good choice


Seasonic is a market leader in PSU. You can never go wrong with them. They are the OEM of corsair, they make most of their PSUs.
With that said, I'd ask you to pick a best solution if you are happy with our answers.
Thank you and happy building.
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January 19, 2014 8:16:22 AM

@op

what are you running which uses 90% mem usage with 8gb? if you read my post i say for gaming its not needed to have more than 8gb. however it seems that something you are doing is using more than normal (are you recording while gaming for instance?) knowing what you have told me... i would go with what you have (2x8gb or 16gb total).

yeah the noctua is big... just mentioned it as a cheaper option.

not all mesh cases are ugly and light-up.
corsair air 540
corsair 500r
corsair c70
corsair 600t
corsair 300r

to name a few. the 750d is a solid well built choice... and it wold likely work however better airflow is ideal.

as to seasonic.. yes seasonic is a great brand. expensive perhaps but great. they are the oem of xfx (so xfx is a good brand too) and of *some* corsair psus (not all... )

@muku its getting irritating to see people saying to select a best answer before the thread is even finished. this is being rather pushy and is not very professional in my opinion. let the op have time to think things over and work at their own pace.
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January 19, 2014 8:21:40 AM

@ssdx, All I have open is chrome with quite a few tabs and a game open on idle the ram usage is like 60% so I'm not sure whats going on I thought it was just background programmes causing it.

My only other option for a case would be http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/143-h440-performance... but I don't know if its any better or if it can fit my build into it . I may be forced to change in the future, but until then I think it has to be the 750D heck ill even put it under my Aircon if I have to
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January 19, 2014 10:24:40 AM

i'm not saying the 750d wont work (it will) i'm just saying your temps would be a bit lower in an open case.

you dont want to have it near your air conditioner (if it gets too cold you need to deal with condensation (bad)

if you have an excessive amount of tabs open that could be part of it. in any case since your ram usage seems higher than normal you might benefit from having more ram like you originally picked out.
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January 19, 2014 10:56:09 AM

ssddx said:


@muku its getting irritating to see people saying to select a best answer before the thread is even finished. this is being rather pushy and is not very professional in my opinion. let the op have time to think things over and work at their own pace.


Well, the only reason for mentioning that is plenty of people often forget to select a best solution.
I'm not pushing anyone to select my answer as the best. I mentioned, select it as best answer if you are happy with our answers. So, its completely up to asker whether he is happy or not and what he'll pick as the solution.
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January 19, 2014 11:09:24 AM

Donalddontgiveaduck said:


Another habit I have is leaving the computer on sleep mode at night so the next day its quicker for me to turn on, will this be a problem with the custom build or will it be fine to do so?


I have a custom build pc which runs 24x7 except for few days in a year when I go out for a trip. So, i don't think keeping your system on sleep mode at night would be a problem.
But
once you have build your system and installed the OS, Download prime95 and run a stress test for at least 24 hrs to verify that all of your components are stable.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-Education/Prim...
And if it runs without an issue then you are good to go.
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January 19, 2014 11:36:16 AM

@muku

perhaps. it just looks fishy when all across the forum people with low ba's are the ones suggesting that the op picks a best answer. while i meant no offense you do realize how fishy that looks

@op

i would advise having your system shut down and then restarting in the morning. not only is there less heat generation but its cheaper on your power bill as well. if you are worried about boot up times... you already have a ssd. is waiting 9 seconds too much to ask for boot (i have ssds in my systems and that is the average boot time)
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January 19, 2014 12:19:00 PM

Yah.. getting a ssd would definitely speed up your boot time... you can try that too. Its better to shut systems down when you are not using them...
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January 19, 2014 12:45:37 PM

the op already has a ssd in the build they have above
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January 19, 2014 1:01:59 PM

ssddx said:
the op already has a ssd in the build they have above


oops. sorry, i overlooked :D 
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January 19, 2014 2:31:50 PM

Alright got it all crystal clear thanks guys! Also I changed from the 750D to the NZXT case I showed in the link above since I found out everything will fit perfectly. But once again thank you for getting rid of my worries and all the help is very appreciated.
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