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What do you guys think of my new build? Is there anything I can do to improve it without raising the price?

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January 19, 2014 9:29:43 AM

I am planning on building this computer soon and would like some feedback before I purchase the parts. Would appreciate any help and/or feedback on the build, thanks.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($47.49 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.34 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial V4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($54.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $661.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-19 12:29 EST-0500)
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January 19, 2014 9:33:26 AM

I would not run that mobo and processor together, it's putting one of the stronger processor with one of the weakest motherboards so yes it'll work and this is a good build for the money in my opinion.
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January 19, 2014 9:33:27 AM

I would get faster RAM, 1866 and 16GB at least. I'd personally drop the SSD for better RAM. 64GB SSD won't hold enough to be useful. Windows alone is 15GB. BF4 is 30 GB alone, without the unreleased expansion sets.
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January 19, 2014 9:34:33 AM

Alec Mowat said:
I would get faster RAM, 1866 and 16GB at least. I'd personally drop the SSD for better RAM. 64GB SSD won't hold enough to be useful. Windows alone is 15GB.



you know that motherboard can't take 1866mhz RAM, The SSD will be useful for windows+1/2 favourite games.

8GB is all that is needed in gaming builds of this budget, 16gb is overkill. When would this system use 16GB of RAM?
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January 19, 2014 9:36:06 AM

AshyCFC said:
Alec Mowat said:
I would get faster RAM, 1866 and 16GB at least. I'd personally drop the SSD for better RAM. 64GB SSD won't hold enough to be useful. Windows alone is 15GB.



you know that motherboard can't take 1866mhz RAM, The SSD will be useful for windows+1/2 favourite games.

8GB is all that is needed in gaming builds of this budget, 16gb is overkill. When would this system use 16GB of RAM?


Drop the motherboard and the SSD and buy a better motherboard that supports 1866. 16GB is great for 64bit gaming.

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January 19, 2014 9:37:39 AM

How much would a better mobo run me? I may be willing to drop a bit more if it's worth it. I'm fine with 8GB of RAM, and AshyCFC, that's what I plan on doing, just Windows and maybe a game or two.
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January 19, 2014 9:42:30 AM

AshyCFC said:
I would grab either a gigabyte 970 DS3P or Asus M5A97 R2.0


I went with the Gigabye 970A-DS3P and PCPartPicker is telling me there might be compatibility issues.

"Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs." I am fairly good with computers but can't really say I am the best and am not sure if that is going to be a problem.

EDIT: Also says this with the Asus mobo
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January 19, 2014 9:42:35 AM

For what purpose will you use this system?
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January 19, 2014 9:44:04 AM

verma1891 said:
For what purpose will you use this system?


I plan on doing some gaming, fairly heavy but not too much. Don't plan on playing BF4 or Crysis or anything like that.
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January 19, 2014 9:44:23 AM

tacoheaven said:
How much would a better mobo run me? I may be willing to drop a bit more if it's worth it. I'm fine with 8GB of RAM, and AshyCFC, that's what I plan on doing, just Windows and maybe a game or two.


Personally, I'd go with this

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2DR1W

RAM is faster than SSD. Why not get an extra 8 GB of RAM instead of wasting money on a bad ssd?
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January 19, 2014 9:46:56 AM

Alec Mowat said:
tacoheaven said:
How much would a better mobo run me? I may be willing to drop a bit more if it's worth it. I'm fine with 8GB of RAM, and AshyCFC, that's what I plan on doing, just Windows and maybe a game or two.


Personally, I'd go with this

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2DR1W

RAM is faster than SSD. Why not get an extra 8 GB of RAM instead of wasting money on a bad ssd?


he won't utilise the 16gb that's why, the SSD will be used. you never answered when his system will use 16gb?

anyway the 970 chipset motherboards have a myriad more features than 760G motherboards such as sata 6,usb 3 etc.

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January 19, 2014 9:48:26 AM

tacoheaven said:
verma1891 said:
For what purpose will you use this system?


I plan on doing some gaming, fairly heavy but not too much. Don't plan on playing BF4 or Crysis or anything like that.


Will u be using any CPU intensive apps like video editing or rendering etc?
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January 19, 2014 9:49:57 AM

AshyCFC said:
Alec Mowat said:
tacoheaven said:
How much would a better mobo run me? I may be willing to drop a bit more if it's worth it. I'm fine with 8GB of RAM, and AshyCFC, that's what I plan on doing, just Windows and maybe a game or two.


Personally, I'd go with this

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2DR1W

RAM is faster than SSD. Why not get an extra 8 GB of RAM instead of wasting money on a bad ssd?


he won't utilise the 16gb that's why, the SSD will be used. you never answered when his system will use 16gb?

anyway the 970 chipset motherboards have a myriad more features than 760G motherboards such as sata 6,usb 3 etc.



Yeah I really won't be needing 16GB of RAM. And the compatibility error is not a problem, correct?

This look all good? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2DQYx I'm fine with going up to $650 which is what it is at, but no more is preferred.
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January 19, 2014 9:50:23 AM

verma1891 said:
tacoheaven said:
verma1891 said:
For what purpose will you use this system?


I plan on doing some gaming, fairly heavy but not too much. Don't plan on playing BF4 or Crysis or anything like that.


Will u be using any CPU intensive apps like video editing or rendering etc?


No, don't plan on doing any of that.
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January 19, 2014 9:56:54 AM

the error just means some of those motherboards may need updates to install the fx*3** series CPU's but no you won't have an issue with a brand new one.

also the build you linked doesn't contain a PSU, which one are you buying?
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January 19, 2014 9:58:16 AM

AshyCFC said:
the error just means some of those motherboards may need updates to install the fx*3** series CPU's but no you won't have an issue with a brand new one.

also the build you linked doesn't contain a PSU, which one are you buying?


Ah, my bad. I didn't notice that, thanks. I added in the EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2DQZy
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January 19, 2014 9:58:36 AM

Stick with 8GB of ram, you can move up to 16GB fairly easily in the future if you want so since you are getting a 2x4 kit. 32 bit games can generally only use up to 2GB of memory for themselves, 4GB if they are tagged with the correct flag. Keep the SSD, it will improve your windows performance significantly, when doing light tasks it is the HDD speed that you notice the most.

Motherboard upgrades help a bit, but they aren't as notable in the long run, it is usually the difference of a few FPS, not dozens.

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January 19, 2014 10:00:19 AM

Thanks for all the help guys! I updated my mobo :)  Now I should be all set! I should be upgrading in the future so it's not like I need to get the best of the best right now.

Here's what I'm going with for those who didn't see my post above.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.34 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial V4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($54.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $679.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-19 13:00 EST-0500)
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January 19, 2014 10:02:32 AM

You should get 8gb of ram at 1600 speed minimum. You do not need more than 8 for what you are using it for , but there is a performance gain from 1333 to 1600.

If you are on that tight of a budget but want to play games, ditch the ssd get a faster graphics card. Sure stuff might take a little longer to load but your games will play a lot better! You can pick up a 760 for around 250$, which is a really solid pick currently.
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January 19, 2014 10:02:45 AM

tacoheaven said:
verma1891 said:
tacoheaven said:
verma1891 said:
For what purpose will you use this system?


I plan on doing some gaming, fairly heavy but not too much. Don't plan on playing BF4 or Crysis or anything like that.


Will u be using any CPU intensive apps like video editing or rendering etc?


No, don't plan on doing any of that.


A 64GB SSD is not future proof. You will fill that disk rather quickly, especially with Windows patching.

However; 16GB of RAM is future proof. The more programs you start to open, the more windows you have open in your browser, the more that RAM will become useful.

With a high-end 8 core chip, you may start playing more games and doing things with your system you couldn't before. RAM needs to be purchased in kits, so you would have to replace all the RAM if you want to upgrade. You can always buy another SSD on sale and stick it in.

I run 2 120 SSDs in RAID0, there's 61GB free.
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January 19, 2014 10:05:25 AM

that is the older motherboard of the 760g chipset, I recommend updating to this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970extr... it's a discount on a 970 motherboard and thanks hunter: I suggested the motherboard upgrade just because of the extra features, ability to play around with OC in the future(if you want) and the fact you have the option of faster RAM, by the way this is only $8 more.

Grab it whilst it's on offer :D 


also if you buy 2x4gb for 8GB what stops you a year later buying an identical set of 2x4gb to go to 16GB?
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January 19, 2014 10:07:23 AM

tacoheaven said:
verma1891 said:
tacoheaven said:
verma1891 said:
For what purpose will you use this system?


I plan on doing some gaming, fairly heavy but not too much. Don't plan on playing BF4 or Crysis or anything like that.


Will u be using any CPU intensive apps like video editing or rendering etc?


No, don't plan on doing any of that.


That processor is good.

Go for corsair vengeance 1600MHz RAM. You dont need a 16GB RAM. You can buy more sticks later if u need. Not that board for sure. Go for http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-970ag43 not too costly. Drop the SSD idea of 64 gb. Atleast get a 120GB or dont get one. Rest all is good!

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January 19, 2014 10:15:22 AM

Oh man, you guys are confusing the hell out of me haha :p 

OK, so I think I am good now.. Updates I made: Added the ASRock mobo thanks to AshyCFC. I decided to ditch the SSD, because to me, it's not THAT big of a deal. I am going to be upgrading in the future and will purchase one then, so it can wait. Upgraded my Video Card from a 660 to a 760 thanks to Adroids suggestion. And again, I'm fine with 8GB of RAM, 16 can also wait. It ran me around $50 higher than my budget, but I think it's worth it.

And hopefully for the last time xD Here's the build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.34 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $698.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-19 13:27 EST-0500)
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January 19, 2014 10:34:47 AM

looks alright to me, the 8GB at 1333mhz will be fine until you decide to upgrade.
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January 19, 2014 10:38:25 AM

Thanks for the help Ashy, and everyone else :) 
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January 19, 2014 5:48:29 PM

Adroid said:
1333mhz is not good.
There are so many options of 8gb 1600 mhz for cheap, sheesh!

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/memory/#s=301600&sort=a10...


To upgrade DDR3 RAM, you would have to replace all of it. Get good RAM now and you won't regret it later.
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