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How does the CPU and the GPU affect Fraps?

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January 19, 2014 12:36:44 PM

So I want to get a new pc but I am on a budget. I would really only like to spend about $650 max. I created a build (http://pcpartpicker.com/user/DerpyDonut/saved/3srH) but it runs me about $730 - $750. My question is what should I be dropping in order to create the build more affordable? My main goal is to record with fraps and I noticed my CPU is about 1/3 the price of the entire build. Should I be dropping that or should I be considering a less powerful GPU? Any advice would be great, thanks for the help :) 

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January 19, 2014 12:40:21 PM

Drop the 250 hdd, it is not an ssd. Get 2x4 ram as dual channel will make it have about 10% better performance. I am presuming you already have a mouse, keyboard, monitor and 1155 socket motherboard as they are not in your build
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January 19, 2014 12:42:55 PM

Also if you get a weaker gpu then you can forget about playing any modern games.
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January 19, 2014 12:49:37 PM

You're going to have to spend wayyyy more than that on a PSU. That logisys unit has only 192W of power on the 12V rail which will only feed your GPU, motherboard, and hard drive, your CPU will be sitting there without power or your PSU will be sitting there in a cloud of magic smoke....

You aren't going to be able to go with a $230 CPU in a $730 budget, you are making too many compromises. You also arent going to find a good motherboard for only $60 :/ 

Drop the $16 fan and the $7 cooler which won't do you any good. Use that extra bit of money to put towards a PSU that isn't just a foil plated cherry bomb.
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January 19, 2014 12:56:52 PM

No of fence but there are a good amount of problems with that build. First off don't waste your money on that CPU cooler. It isn't any better than the stock cooler that comes with the CPU. Second that power supply won't work. I had a logisys 550w and it could barely do a 50w CPU and 7770. In fact the system wouldn't even stay power up and then the PSU just went out totally so the PSU won't power anything. Logisys is only good for blowing up when ur bored. You don't need two HDD you just don't. Also do you really need 2tb of storage? Some people do just you can save money if you don't need it. And I guess you plan to spend more later on a good cooler later to overclock? Because if not drop down to a 3470 or 3350p and save 40 bucks. The GPU also isn't too good. Its alright but you won't be playing on high or even medium in some games. Like others said get 2 4gb sticks rather than one 8gb of ram since it truly does help. If you want to lower the price the only thing you can really do is get a cheaper cpu
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January 19, 2014 1:15:16 PM

Fitzitz said:
Drop the 250 hdd, it is not an ssd. Get 2x4 ram as dual channel will make it have about 10% better performance. I am presuming you already have a mouse, keyboard, monitor and 1155 socket motherboard as they are not in your build



The reason for 2 hard drives is the 250 is for my os games ect. Fraps is known to have greater performance when the video is being written to another hard drive. I will take the ram advice and yes, I am not including the monitor ect. in the build. That is an expense I am preparing to pay for
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January 19, 2014 1:20:48 PM



There is no point putting games and os on a 250gb hdd, that is only the case in ssd due to their significantly faster read and write speeds. At your budget, you are not getting an ssd
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January 19, 2014 1:21:23 PM

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No of fence but there are a good amount of problems with that build. First off don't waste your money on that CPU cooler. It isn't any better than the stock cooler that comes with the CPU. Second that power supply won't work. I had a logisys 550w and it could barely do a 50w CPU and 7770. In fact the system wouldn't even stay power up and then the PSU just went out totally so the PSU won't power anything. Logisys is only good for blowing up when ur bored. You don't need two HDD you just don't. Also do you really need 2tb of storage? Some people do just you can save money if you don't need it. And I guess you plan to spend more later on a good cooler later to overclock? Because if not drop down to a 3470 or 3350p and save 40 bucks. The GPU also isn't too good. Its alright but you won't be playing on high or even medium in some games. Like others said get 2 4gb sticks rather than one 8gb of ram since it truly does help. If you want to lower the price the only thing you can really do is get a cheaper cpu


This is my first build, and I will get it checked by someone who knows more than me when I am ready to purchase. The reason for 2 tb hdd is for fraps, it can suck up about 250 gb/hour before compressing the files. As far as all the errors - power supply ect. Like i said, I will get help when it comes to getting it right. I will look for a less expensive quad core cpu but I have 1 question, If I remove the fans, what will I use to cool down the pc?
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January 19, 2014 1:23:39 PM

Fitzitz said:


There is no point putting games and os on a 250gb hdd, that is only the case in ssd due to their significantly faster read and write speeds. At your budget, you are not getting an ssd


So should I invest in a 7200 rpm 250 gb hard drive, would that work?
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January 19, 2014 1:24:23 PM

Your CPU will come with a heatsink/fan included and the case comes with a 120mm rear fan pre installed.
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January 19, 2014 1:25:39 PM

No, even a 10000rpm hard drive is way slower than an ssd. Just get one large 1tb drive or 2tb max and when you upgrade later swap your os onto your ssd
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January 19, 2014 1:26:25 PM

hunter315 said:
You're going to have to spend wayyyy more than that on a PSU. That logisys unit has only 192W of power on the 12V rail which will only feed your GPU, motherboard, and hard drive, your CPU will be sitting there without power or your PSU will be sitting there in a cloud of magic smoke....

You aren't going to be able to go with a $230 CPU in a $730 budget, you are making too many compromises. You also arent going to find a good motherboard for only $60 :/ 

Drop the $16 fan and the $7 cooler which won't do you any good. Use that extra bit of money to put towards a PSU that isn't just a foil plated cherry bomb.


I did some research and the motherboard seems to be okay with builds like mine. I understand that I need to drop the CPU power but I am confused on the power supply, what do you reccomend would go good with this build? (again when I did research on the PSU it looked ok)
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January 19, 2014 1:27:53 PM

Really you are not going to get anything good with your budget and I would either forget about recording altogether or get a console and a capture card and just record console gaming
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January 19, 2014 1:28:37 PM

Fitzitz said:
No, even a 10000rpm hard drive is way slower than an ssd. Just get one large 1tb drive or 2tb max and when you upgrade later swap your os onto your ssd


But why can I only have 1 hdd? Wouldn't it be better to have 2 hdd's than one for everything? My question is what performance am I losing when I go with the 250? (i understand it is not the most storage for an os ect, but I can manage.)
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January 19, 2014 1:29:55 PM

Fitzitz said:
Really you are not going to get anything good with your budget and I would either forget about recording altogether or get a console and a capture card and just record console gaming


I am mainly planning on recording minecraft and the pc I have now ($500 in store with a few upgrades) works great.
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January 19, 2014 1:31:34 PM

If you have a $500 then why aren't you upgrading it instead of buying a whole new one (which likely won't be much better)?
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January 19, 2014 1:33:15 PM

Fitzitz said:
If you have a $500 then why aren't you upgrading it instead of buying a whole new one (which likely won't be much better)?


It is a family pc so I do not have full access to it and I am not admin so I can't install programs ect. I am looking to get my own pc.
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January 19, 2014 1:37:19 PM

Look into getting an i3, a 1tb hard drive, and anything else suggested. Post back when you have changed your build accordingly
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January 19, 2014 1:53:11 PM

Fitzitz said:
Look into getting an i3, a 1tb hard drive, and anything else suggested. Post back when you have changed your build accordingly


I am not finished yet but just a quick question, what is the difference between a 6gb/s and a 3gb/s motherboard SATA?
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January 19, 2014 2:05:40 PM

The transfer rate, which won't impact you with standard HDDs, 3Gb/s is 375MB/s. A fast conventional HDD will have a peak read/write speed of less than 150MB/s
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January 19, 2014 5:03:55 PM

Fitzitz said:
Look into getting an i3, a 1tb hard drive, and anything else suggested. Post back when you have changed your build accordingly


a little late, sorry but here is my new build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/DerpyDonutPC/saved/3tZY
I want a quad core cpu so i chose an i5, it is alot less expensive tho
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