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Hi, I have come up with this system:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2DXZP

I don't have much budget then the prices on the parts I have chosen but if a better component is at a slight stretch i wont say no, so any help please would be appreciated. ( I don't intend on overclocking)

Also what sata connection does my system support for a HDD?

Thanks
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    Well, you are wasting alot of money if you won't be overclocking. Drop the CPU cooler and change the CPU to a non-k model. Also change the board to an h87 board.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£142.79 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£79.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£69.51 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Corsair Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£140.69 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.97 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£239.90 @ Amazon UK)
    Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£61.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (£9.48 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£93.98 @ Dabs)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.59 @ Ebuyer)
    Total: £977.58
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-19 21:20 GMT+0000)

    DO this instead. MUCH better gaming performance. THis computer will max all games vs. the one you had which will only play them at medium/high
  2. What CPU Cooler would you recommend?
  3. tiny voices said:
    Well, you are wasting alot of money if you won't be overclocking. Drop the CPU cooler and change the CPU to a non-k model. Also change the board to an h87 board.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£142.79 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£79.71 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£69.51 @ Ebuyer)
    Storage: Corsair Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£140.69 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.97 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£239.90 @ Amazon UK)
    Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£61.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (£9.48 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£93.98 @ Dabs)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.59 @ Ebuyer)
    Total: £977.58
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-19 21:20 GMT+0000)

    DO this instead. MUCH better gaming performance. THis computer will max all games vs. the one you had which will only play them at medium/high


    woa, that psu is shouting i'm overkill! all over the place... 600w or even 550 would suffice. have a look at this one: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650xxxb9 better suited for that built unless ofc op intends to sli which i doubt.
  4. Good catch. I just edited the original build and didn't check the PSU. Yes, a 650w unit from XFX would be perfect here.
  5. what is the real need to duel GPU and what CPU cooler would you recommend?
  6. A reasonable build.

    Your motherboard will have sata3 ports. That is no issue.

    If you do not plan on overclocking, then you are spending more than you need for a "K" cpu and a Z87 based motherboard.
    That said, the possibility of a 20% cpu boost from overclocking is a nice thing to have for the future.

    If you will never overclock, use a i5-4670 and a cheaper B85 based motherboard.
    No aftermarket cpu cooler will be needed either.

    A GTX660 needs only a 450w psu. Gold rating is not worth the extra price.

    Defer on the extra fan, your case already has adequate cooling.
  7. More than one GPU is simply for more power. That is all. It is by no means needed at all.

    The stock CPU cooler is plenty because you will not be overclocking.
  8. Ricster-a said:
    what is the real need to duel GPU and what CPU cooler would you recommend?

    Without overclocking, no aftermarket cpu cooler is needed.
    That said, I might use a $30 cm hyper212 just because the 120mm fan will be quieter.

    Here is my canned rant on planning for dual cards:
    -----------------------------Start of rant----------------------------------------------------
    Dual graphics cards vs. a good single card.

    a) How good do you really need to be?
    A single GTX650/ti or 7770 can give you good performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.

    A single GTX660 or 7850 will give you excellent performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.
    Even 2560 x 1600 will be good with lowered detail.
    A single gtx690,7990, GTX780ti or R9-290X is about as good as it gets for a single card.

    Only if you are looking at triple monitor gaming, or a 4k monitor, might sli/cf will be needed.
    Even that is now changing with triple monitor support on top end cards and stronger single card solutions.

    b) The costs for a single card are lower.
    You require a less expensive motherboard; no need for sli/cf or multiple pci-e slots.
    Even a ITX motherboard will do.

    Your psu costs are less.
    A GTX660 needs a 430w psu, even a GTX780 only needs a 575w psu.
    When you add another card to the mix, plan on adding 200w to your psu requirements.

    Even the most power hungry GTX690 only needs 620w, or a 7990 needs 700w.

    Case cooling becomes more of an issue with dual cards.
    That means a more expensive case with more and stronger fans.
    You will also look at more noise.

    c) Dual gpu's do not always render their half of the display in sync, causing microstuttering. It is an annoying effect.
    The benefit of higher benchmark fps can be offset, particularly with lower tier cards.
    Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995.html

    d) dual gpu support is dependent on the driver. Not all games can benefit from dual cards.

    e) dual cards up front reduces your option to get another card for an upgrade. Not that I suggest you plan for that.
    It will often be the case that replacing your current card with a newer gen card will offer a better upgrade path.
    The Maxwell and amd 8000 or 9000 series are due next year.
    -------------------------------End of rant----------------------------------------------------------
  9. Ok what sata does the Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard use? Also as it stand I don't intend overclocking this is due to being unaware of how to even do it. So i think it's best left alone for myself.
  10. SATA is SATA. Your motherboard will run faster than your HDD or SSD can even keep up. Nothing to worry about there. SATA 6.0 is the current max speed and not even SSDs can fully utilize it.
  11. Thank you so much for your response geofelt I didn't quite understand your "e)" section though what did you mean by this was very interesting to read.
  12. So this would be my better build:

    http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2DZjE
  13. Ricster-a said:
    So this would be my better build:

    http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2DZjE



    Yes, this looks perfect.
  14. Thank you everyone for all your help!
  15. Always glad to help!
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