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January 21, 2014 12:01:50 AM

I recently upgraded to a GTX 780 and haven't really seen a performance increase. Most games I play have low FPS on max settings and when I try to lower the settings, it doesn't really do much. Even though I've read multiple posts saying that the i5 3570k won't bottleneck anything, I'm not receiving good FPS. Will overclocking solve this?
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January 21, 2014 12:08:29 AM

Even at stock frequencies, the 3570k is totally capable of running a 780. If you're having problems, there is something else going on here.
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January 21, 2014 12:16:54 AM

Make sure all drivers are up to date and make sure you have enough system ram (4-8GB is recommended for gaming) also make sure your PSU is big enough to power the card correctly (you need 600w with 42Amps over the rails). If all that is in order please let us know.

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January 21, 2014 12:18:01 AM

FULL specs?
What games?
What resolution?
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January 21, 2014 12:27:23 AM

My drivers are up to date.
Specs:
i5 3570k stock speeds
EVGA GTX 780 FTW
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
XFX PRO650W

On this card I've played Guild Wars 2, Arma 3, Assassin's Creed 4, PlanetSide 2, Battlefield 3 at 1080p
My friend plays the same games with an i7 and a gtx 580 he gets way better FPS than I do. Arma 3 he has no lag while mine is like 20-30 FPS. PlanetSide 2 I always have 30-57 FPS (even when I turn the settings down it's the exact same). Battlefield 3 seems fine. For AC4 I can have the settings at max except for the PhysX when I turn that on it destroys my FPS.
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January 21, 2014 12:30:14 AM

Most likely some sort of driver problem.
Uninstal your driver, restart and fresh instal the latest.
Also update your motherboard bios and all other drivers.
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January 21, 2014 1:32:58 AM

Mucakcan3000 said:
My drivers are up to date.
Specs:
i5 3570k stock speeds
EVGA GTX 780 FTW
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
XFX PRO650W

On this card I've played Guild Wars 2, Arma 3, Assassin's Creed 4, PlanetSide 2, Battlefield 3 at 1080p
My friend plays the same games with an i7 and a gtx 580 he gets way better FPS than I do. Arma 3 he has no lag while mine is like 20-30 FPS. PlanetSide 2 I always have 30-57 FPS (even when I turn the settings down it's the exact same). Battlefield 3 seems fine. For AC4 I can have the settings at max except for the PhysX when I turn that on it destroys my FPS.


sounds like a driver problem or your video card or cpu is throttling for some reason. Check nothing is overheating, the i5 if on a stock heatsink can and will overheat and throttle under full load.
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January 21, 2014 6:44:13 PM

iam2thecrowe said:
Mucakcan3000 said:
My drivers are up to date.
Specs:
i5 3570k stock speeds
EVGA GTX 780 FTW
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
XFX PRO650W

On this card I've played Guild Wars 2, Arma 3, Assassin's Creed 4, PlanetSide 2, Battlefield 3 at 1080p
My friend plays the same games with an i7 and a gtx 580 he gets way better FPS than I do. Arma 3 he has no lag while mine is like 20-30 FPS. PlanetSide 2 I always have 30-57 FPS (even when I turn the settings down it's the exact same). Battlefield 3 seems fine. For AC4 I can have the settings at max except for the PhysX when I turn that on it destroys my FPS.


sounds like a driver problem or your video card or cpu is throttling for some reason. Check nothing is overheating, the i5 if on a stock heatsink can and will overheat and throttle under full load.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89429325/temps%20an...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89429325/MSI%20afte...
Does it throttle at these temps? I don't think it's normal that my GPU usage is max 66%, this is while playing Guild Wars 2
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January 21, 2014 6:45:44 PM

Novuake said:
Most likely some sort of driver problem.
Uninstal your driver, restart and fresh instal the latest.
Also update your motherboard bios and all other drivers.


Just updated drivers and it didn't change anything. :|
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January 23, 2014 6:33:01 PM

^^?
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January 23, 2014 9:55:54 PM

Also update your motherboard bios and all other drivers.

Reseat the graphics card.
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April 16, 2014 5:53:04 PM

hello there

I have the same CPU and an GTX 780 TI Overclocked ! Running Guild Wars 2 on 5907 X 1080 across 3 monitors and when there is lot of people in game, i get around 20 FPS BEFORE the yesterday patch that merge every server to mega server and 45/50 Locked at 60 when on open zone.

Before that, i was oversampling and every graphics settings at max, now im normal sampling, reduced the character limit to medium and i have 10/20 FPS in town on mega server with :S.

Telling you this cause i run riva tuner on overlay and each of my cores are always on my top left monitor, and 4 cores all at 100% usage and temps at 56/60 celcius, wich is normal temp, and GPU at 55 % on 5709 X 1080.

So, its hard to REALLY tell when its bottlenecking and when its just the game that is CPU intensive. In GW2, after LOTS of research., and some confirmation from arena Net devs on this that its a game optimized for HT and are very CPU intensive instead of GPU optimized for some weird reasons....

Saying all this simply cause i run Age of Wushu at max wich has approximately the same graphics scale across 3 screen, and when theres lot of people, i get to 50 FPS hardware Acceleration set to on with 85 % GPU use instead of 46% of GW2, and only 2 cores of my CPU goes to 100% .....

Here i would say, my CPU could be better of course, but its not bottlenecking BECAUSE the video card ! Its the game code optimization unfortunately, in some case, (dont get me wrong).

Best exemple, Running Tomb Raider, Farcry 3 or Assasin Creed black Flag on 5906 X 1080 accross the same 3 monitors, my GPU reach 99,9 % and the dynamic overclock clock it at max speed, my fans adjust, so i can hear that my GPU is FINALLY working at max at that high resolution, while the CPU is standing between 50 and 65 % on all cores with around 40 to 55 FPS Vsync ON ;) 
(those games will requires me to have another 780 TI in SLI, since i also want an 3d Surround)

So my answer is : some game will of course bottleneck, but overall, with a true gaming setup, it really depends on the coding of the game itself, some will bottleneck, so youll need to lower some graphic settings, while some will just blow your eyes with true GPU power and let the CPU breath ! Its my obsevation so far

At 3 screen monitor, its the amount of DDR Memory that will bottleneck an 780 TI on heavy MSAA antialias but thats another story XD hahaha
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April 17, 2014 3:39:46 AM

" some weird reasons " nothing weird about it. Its an MMO.
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April 17, 2014 10:29:50 PM

Novuake said:
" some weird reasons " nothing weird about it. Its an MMO.



you are right :p  But cant it have some hardware acceleration options where it can relate more on like GPU to calculate some other things ?!

I mean, dont get me wrong, GW2 is awesome, but i played other mmo that actually take less CPU and more GPU...

Thats more what i meant as "weird reason" ... Like why some company code their game for more CPU request, while others concentrate on GPU request, where some great mmo and/or any other gamestyle (other than mmo) will be more balanced...

There is a reason for every decision, and i know it, but its kinda "weird" that on a tech level, across all style of game, when we compare similar game, they can give different result :p  Not that i hate it, its just "weird" and funny :p  hehehe ;) 
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