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January 21, 2014 8:32:27 AM

Hi all I am upgrading from a MacBook and cheap pavilion g6
I'm looking to build a pc (first build) that will be able to play games like gta v (if it comes out) and BF4 on a modest setting - atleast medium with over 45 fps average if possible.
I've done a lot of research into parts and have changed my list over and over again realising how uninformed I was, so I finally decided to get some well needed help, here it goes.

Country: Australia (I chose tomshardware because it is the most active pc community I've found)

Approximate Purchase Date: within 2 weeks, however I have patience.

Budget Range: $1100 although most sites I've looked at are from the US so I'm expecting 10-20% price increase, that's fine the $1100 is flexible.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Microsoft word (already obtained)

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes - no preference.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Not really, just ones with low shipping/international if required.

Parts Preferences: Nope.

Overclocking: Probably not, I've really only seen a 1-5fps improvement.

SLI or Crossfire: With my current chosen one (may be completely incompatible) I've opted for SLI in the future, although I have no idea if that is a good choice.

Additional Comments: I don't really mind if it's loud, I plan on playing watch dogs (looks amazing) although ultra/high on games isn't really needed.
Almost forgot, resolution is 1920x1080

Why Are You Upgrading: Been using a PS4 - which I hate/selling, the UI lags and I have to bridge connections with a laptop to even use the internet, also have a MacBook which I am selling to pay for this system, given their insane resale prices my budget is flexible.


Here is my current configuration.

Note that all prices are from pcpartpicker and most will be more expensive, e.g. the CPU on partpicker is $229 however the cheapest in AU is $258, around 11% more expensive on the CPU alone.
I've tried to separate and distinguish components to make this big chunk easier to digest, I more than likely messed up the URL tags :) 

Feel free to pick at it and change anything you like (obviously), I've spent a while optimising this setup however I probably messed up a few things or went too cheap/expensive.



CPU - $195 Changed
Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $35 saving on previous 4670k and looks like a good CPU.

CPU Cooler - $39
Cool Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM - choose a cheap one as I wont be overclocking

Motherboard $135 changed
Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $45 from original with all features needed still there. Thanks!

RAM - $80 Changed
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Based on suggestion, looks good and have seen other high value pc's use this.

HDD - $70 changed

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Ditched hitachi, this drive is $25 more expensive but Seagate is a pretty good brand.

GPU - $330 changed
MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card $50 from the last GTX 770, a very capable GPU :) 

Power Supply - $140 changed
Corsair Professional 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply +$40 for the corsair power supply, seems good - not much else to say about it.

Case - $60
Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $30 drop to this snazzy case, thanks whitecat
Optical Drive (yes that wasn't a typo) - $16
LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer Just to install OS.

OS - $138
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) I know W7 pro supports Dual Graphics however I could not find information in W8, W8 would be better - sorta - it's cheaper for some reason and Microsoft probably won't keep pushing games for W7. Really I have no idea what I'm on about here.

Edit: Ok I read it wrong, it is dual CPU that requires W7 pro/business - not dual GPU, I did have no idea what I was on about :) 

Current total cost: $1,174 $1,187 ... A way better system for only $13 more!!

As a sort of footnote, WIFI would be great, I don't know if the motherboard comes with it.
Thankyou all in advance, all feedback/criticism is appreciated, negative or positive. Thanks!

Edit: Permalink to the pcpartpicker incase anybody wants to use this as a setup/adjust it.

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January 21, 2014 8:41:01 AM

The board is good, But if you want something a little cheaper the UD3H is about 40-50 buck off. I picked one up last night for $112 CAD. As for RAM I might suggest spending another 20$ and getting Corsair Vengeance only because of the life time warranty. other than that I would be proud to own your list.
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January 21, 2014 8:43:42 AM

Thanks whitecat, this memory looks pretty good and at the same price. Going to update the post now. Thanks for the input!
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January 21, 2014 8:45:14 AM

Thanks klepto, i'm going to have a look at that board as I thought mine was expensive for a basic setup, what to you guys think about the SLI, is it a good choice?
I remember looking at that motherboard thinking it was a great price with heaps of features however it has disappeared off the compatible list of price picker, it could be incompatible or my eyes aren't really that good.
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January 21, 2014 8:56:00 AM

1994 said:
Thanks klepto, i'm going to have a look at that board as I thought mine was expensive for a basic setup, what to you guys think about the SLI, is it a good choice?
I remember looking at that motherboard thinking it was a great price with heaps of features however it has disappeared off the compatible list of price picker, it could be incompatible or my eyes aren't really that good.


for me SLI is not a good idea , GTX 770 instead . for me one card is better
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January 21, 2014 8:56:32 AM

Thanks again for your input whitecat, I had to jump to my phone to read this thread. The old pavilion g6 got a blue screen :) 
I'm going to research more into the 770 and double check compatability and performance. Don't want to buy a GPU i can't use lol
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January 21, 2014 8:58:14 AM

Just so you know, I also live in Australia and am also in the process of building a $1100 PC (almost finished!)

The lowest I've found for a Fractal Design R4 is $149. Apparently the AMD R9 270X which I found for AU$250 performs better than the 760 you have, so it'd be a better buy IMO.

Seeing as you said you're unlikely to OC there'd be absolutely no need to buy the i5 you have in your build. You could go with LGA1155 socket (newer) and look for something like a H87 motherboard, which I've found as low as $100. You can then get a CPU like the i5 3450 for $240, saving you a lot of money.

Spend a bit more on a PSU (the money saved from above will allow you to do this). I've found a Corsair 80+ Gold 650W PSU on sale for around $150 which will last you at least 7 years if all goes well, saving you from spending again in a year.
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January 21, 2014 9:04:22 AM

Thanks icaraeus, i'm trying to get my head around all the advice :)  although your rig will save a lot of money and with a single GPU (like the 770 that whitecat suggested) that 650w should be sufficient. Thanks again, will update the list soon!
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January 21, 2014 9:07:22 AM

Icaraeus said:
Just so you know, I also live in Australia and am also in the process of building a $1100 PC (almost finished!)

The lowest I've found for a Fractal Design R4 is $149. Apparently the AMD R9 270X which I found for AU$250 performs better than the 760 you have, so it'd be a better buy IMO.

Seeing as you said you're unlikely to OC there'd be absolutely no need to buy the i5 you have in your build. You could go with LGA1155 socket (newer) and look for something like a H87 motherboard, which I've found as low as $100. You can then get a CPU like the i5 3450 for $240, saving you a lot of money.

Spend a bit more on a PSU (the money saved from above will allow you to do this). I've found a Corsair 80+ Gold 650W PSU on sale for around $150 which will last you at least 7 years if all goes well, saving you from spending again in a year.


1994 said:
Thanks icaraeus, i'm trying to get my head around all the advice :)  although your rig will save a lot of money and with a single GPU (like the 770 that whitecat suggested) that 650w should be sufficient. Thanks again, will update the list soon!


GTX 770 needs one 6 and one 8 pin power connectors and 600W good psu
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt...
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January 21, 2014 9:30:06 AM

basically ive changed the CPU, Motherboard, RAM, GPU, Power Supply and HardDrive, overall +$130 on the cost of the system - I am going to look for a better motherboard, also is the 4gb of ram in the GPU worth it, or should I drop the RAM and price? Thanks for all your suggestions!
EDIT: Changed the motherboard to 787, thanks whitecat :) 
EDIT2: Dropping GPU down as total was $1287, trying to find a good, high performance one on sale.
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January 21, 2014 9:44:15 AM

1994 said:
basically ive changed the CPU, Motherboard, RAM, GPU, Power Supply and HardDrive, overall +$130 on the cost of the system - I am going to look for a better motherboard, also is the 4gb of ram in the GPU worth it, or should I drop the RAM and price? Thanks for all your suggestions!
EDIT: Changed the motherboard to 787, thanks whitecat :) 


2GB VRAM is enough , since the cpu and the RAM are fast . If you are not going to SLI , might use Asus Z87-K or Asus H87 Plus ATX . i dont know which is cheaper , just newegg and pcpartpicker
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January 21, 2014 9:47:02 AM

thanks I just found this one for $330, a $50 drop and second cheapest (by $1) GTX 770.
I think the list is pretty good now, anymore advice on parts?
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January 21, 2014 9:50:17 AM

1994 said:
thanks I just found this one for $330, a $50 drop and second cheapest (by $1) GTX 770.
I think the list is pretty good now, anymore advice on parts?


http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n770tf2gd5o...
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January 21, 2014 9:55:57 AM

thanks again whitecat, I added that GPU into the setup - is there any difference between MSI and gigabye (except the core clock freq.) or is it just because MSI are a better brand?

Whitecat you have been great, I've chosen your answer as the best. Thankyou everybody for your help!

A little update, i scoured the internet for acouple of hours and managed to get the whole PC (minus the OS) for $1287, where the final price on price pcpicker in the US was $1210. So buying it from AU retailers cost only $77 more, although it is $90 in shipping extra.
An interesting side note is that motherboards I found were cheaper ($10-$20) GPU's up to $100 more expensive, HDD's on par, RAM around +20% more expensive, power supplies are about the same and cases are mostly the same but some are up to 40% more expensive. Also I got a $200 PSU $60 off because I was buying most of the products from the one site (after emailing ofcourse), so now I have a 750w PSU gold rated :) .
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January 21, 2014 10:01:23 AM

1994 said:
thanks again whitecat, I added that GPU into the setup - is there any difference between MSI and gigabye (except the core clock freq.) or is it just because MSI are a better brand?


Twin Frozr of MSI are great . Good luck !
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