Which Proccesor is Better the Quad Core do Dual Core?
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http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-3120M-vs-AMD-A8-5545M
gaming? without a dedicated gpu would be A8, otherwise the i3.
gaming? without a dedicated gpu would be A8, otherwise the i3.
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That really depends on what you plan to do with the laptop.
If you plan on doing any gaming, the A8 5545M is the hands down winner.
AMD's integrated graphics are miles ahead of Intel's affordable offerings.
For general office and productivity work, email, youtube, facebook, etc. both will offer a great experience.
You should get which ever machine costs the least and/or has the best build quality.
If you are planning on pushing a heavy workload through the machine you really need to look at the specific programs you plan to use.
If they are lightly threaded (do not fully load the processor), Intel's IPC advantage will result in higher performance.
For heavily threaded workloads (most photo/video and professional programs), AMD's processor will win most of the time, sometimes by a significant margin.
Personally, I would probably chose the AMD system for a more balanced experience.
Before you make a final decision though, you should make sure to take into account the build quality of both laptops (SSD or HDD, screen quality, keyboard feel, speakers, battery life, etc.).
If you plan on doing any gaming, the A8 5545M is the hands down winner.
AMD's integrated graphics are miles ahead of Intel's affordable offerings.
For general office and productivity work, email, youtube, facebook, etc. both will offer a great experience.
You should get which ever machine costs the least and/or has the best build quality.
If you are planning on pushing a heavy workload through the machine you really need to look at the specific programs you plan to use.
If they are lightly threaded (do not fully load the processor), Intel's IPC advantage will result in higher performance.
For heavily threaded workloads (most photo/video and professional programs), AMD's processor will win most of the time, sometimes by a significant margin.
Personally, I would probably chose the AMD system for a more balanced experience.
Before you make a final decision though, you should make sure to take into account the build quality of both laptops (SSD or HDD, screen quality, keyboard feel, speakers, battery life, etc.).
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very true, gaming wise the amd hands down since it has 2 modules/4 cores vs 2 cores/4 threads(hyperthreading)
hyper threading does nothing in gaming, actual cores are what is needed, most games will not even run on a dual core. plus as stated gaming will depend on the gpu as well which the amds on die will be stronger already.
still preferred to have a dedicated graphics card for gaming which will yield much higher performance
post both machines and it will help us decide further
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It depends on what you'll be using the laptop for. The AMD is a true quad-core with stronger graphics and a lower TDP, but the Intel has better per-core performance. If the programs you're using are optimised for a quad-core CPU or a strong GPU, then AMD is the way to go.
If this doesn't apply and both laptops are a similar price, look at the rest of the specification. How does the RAM, HDD and screen quality compare, and as outlw6669 said, how does build quality stack up? Does the screen flex easily because of poor hinges? Do the keys have sufficient travel for you to type comfortably? There may be a thousand other things to consider.
On the face of it, I'd recommend the AMD, but as I don't know any more about the laptop other than the CPU, it's a half-hearted recommendation.
If this doesn't apply and both laptops are a similar price, look at the rest of the specification. How does the RAM, HDD and screen quality compare, and as outlw6669 said, how does build quality stack up? Does the screen flex easily because of poor hinges? Do the keys have sufficient travel for you to type comfortably? There may be a thousand other things to consider.
On the face of it, I'd recommend the AMD, but as I don't know any more about the laptop other than the CPU, it's a half-hearted recommendation.
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For a light workload and a bit of gaming the AMD system would be a better (technical) choice.
If you have a chance before purchasing though; take a look at both in person to be sure the keyboard feel, display quality, speakers and battery life are acceptable before making a final decision.
If you have a chance before purchasing though; take a look at both in person to be sure the keyboard feel, display quality, speakers and battery life are acceptable before making a final decision.
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you would have to walk me through this, how can the game tell which threads are hyper-threads?
How can the system tell which threads are hyper-threads?
Pro-tip: they cant.
If the games doesn't utilize the extra threads from hyper-threading then the game wouldn't utilize the extra cores from AMD.
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Once again the posters on this thread are suffering from the "more cores is always better" disease. First of all, AMD's processor is better classified as "4 thread" CPU, as it has 4 logical cores, but only 2 floating point units. Likewise, even though Intel i3 has two real execution cores, it has four logical cores due to hyper-threading which allows to schedule two instruction streams in parallel, the OS sees four cores, which does improve performance up to 30% compared to plain 2 core.
All in all, they're quite comparable. The A8 is probably slightly slower for pure CPU intensive tasks. The i3 with its HD4000 graphics may be slightly slower for 3D graphics. In the end, who cares? From the description is sounds like the machine will be just running standard productivity apps. Both will run office apps and web browser ok. No one buys this to play games, unless you play games from 10 years ago (which I actually do). I'd worry more about things like the screen, weight, build, and battery life.
All in all, they're quite comparable. The A8 is probably slightly slower for pure CPU intensive tasks. The i3 with its HD4000 graphics may be slightly slower for 3D graphics. In the end, who cares? From the description is sounds like the machine will be just running standard productivity apps. Both will run office apps and web browser ok. No one buys this to play games, unless you play games from 10 years ago (which I actually do). I'd worry more about things like the screen, weight, build, and battery life.
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not exactly the intel is not a 4 logical core part, the os may see it like that but is not, it is 2 logical core, 4 threads, the extra threads are not as strong as having actual cores which is why gaming on an i5 vs i7(hyperthreading has really no performance improvements.
either way these processors are so close in performance it doesnt really matter, if your games support more than 2 cores grab the quad core for sure
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not exactly the intel is not a 4 logical core part, the os may see it like that but is not, it is 2 logical core, 4 threads, the extra threads are not as strong as having actual cores which is why gaming on an i5 vs i7(hyperthreading has really no performance improvements.
either way these processors are so close in performance it doesnt really matter, if your games support more than 2 cores grab the quad core for sure
It seems like you love arguing for the sake of arguing?
Core i3 has two execution units for everything and therefore two execution (real cores). The additional facilities that enable hyper-threading indeed work by creating two more logical cores. The OS sees four cores as you can check with any utility that lists all available cores. Even though there may be only two execution units, the OS does not need to know that. From the point of view of the OS, the hardware is seen as a four core CPU. And that's what _logical cores_ means. Logic means something that can be in your mind, not necessarily physical.
The four logical cores share the same two execution units, by taking turns in executing the instruction sequences. And like I said, all of AMDs CPUs look somewhat close to hyper-threading cores, because each module has two physical execution cores for integer stuff, but only one floating point unit.
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