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January 23, 2014 3:22:46 AM

A friend of mine intends to build a desktop PC to use as a replacement to his iPad (he doesn't have a laptop and has an old desktop PC).

He has a budget of "$600+", saying that's where he'd start off with, and intends to only use the system for school/uni assignments, Internet browsing and 1080p media playback and streaming as well as being able to multitask.

His OS of preference is Windows 8, and he said that he may expand upon the $600 budget. He lives in Australia so the places to fins components would be different - the site to find the best component prices for Australia is http://www.staticice.com.au/
January 23, 2014 3:48:39 AM

what all ur frnd need all thing including monitor?
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January 23, 2014 3:56:10 AM

He requires everything - he doesn't have any monitors or anything lying around.
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January 23, 2014 3:58:50 AM

And he prefers a wired mouse and keyboard.
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January 23, 2014 4:17:27 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2G7W8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2G7W8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2G7W8/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.10 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card ($38.57 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 (Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($36.62 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.00 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2051F 60Hz 20.0" Monitor ($97.37 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $647.61
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January 23, 2014 5:13:07 AM

thats a good budget build nashdes001
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January 23, 2014 5:28:08 AM

Or an Intel build if you want :) 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2G8RO
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2G8RO/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2G8RO/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.62 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($43.46 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.49 @ Staples)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.00 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell E2213H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($101.99 @ Staples)
Total: $665.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-23 08:27 EST-0500)
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January 23, 2014 6:34:54 AM

None of these builds include a mouse and keyboard, and he prefers to have 8GB of RAM.
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January 23, 2014 6:46:25 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2GafZ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2GafZ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2GafZ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Celeron G1830 2.8GHz Dual-Core Processor ($57.49 @ Staples)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.62 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.49 @ Staples)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.00 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell E2213H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($101.99 @ Staples)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($10.29 @ B&H)
Mouse: Logitech M500 Wired Laser Mouse ($22.74 @ B&H)
Total: $667.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-23 09:51 EST-0500)
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January 23, 2014 6:53:31 AM

Is the Intel Celeron an APU? You didn't include a dedicated GPU (which is fine if it handles 1080p) in the build so I was just wandering.

He also wants the PSU to last a long time (5+ years) and i'm not sure the PSU will last that long considering the rather low cost.
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January 23, 2014 7:10:02 AM

Okay I'll tell him about the builds you made and clarify how much is the max he is willing or can pay for the build, seeing as they're all above $600.
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January 23, 2014 7:12:55 AM

he wants quite much lol.
mentioned above builds are good. except celeron part.
I would take the fx 6300. quality pieces.
here my suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2GaE5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2GaE5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2GaE5/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
comes wit hd 4600 which can handle even skyrim on medium 1080p so media and normal use = easy task.
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC E2260SWDN 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $666.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-23 10:11 EST-0500)

he can upgrade later to a nice gpu like hd 7750 or higher ^^ if he will ever want
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January 23, 2014 4:40:39 PM

Okay I got in contact with my friend and told him about the builds and he said that his maximum budget for the desktop PC is $800 but he prefers to keep it around the $700-750 range.
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January 23, 2014 11:49:43 PM

if he has 0 intention to game or use pc for some work (edit, create, rendering...) makes no sense to throw more into it.
my suggestion. get either the fx 6300 or i5 I mentioned. they will last 5 years for what he intends to do. even more. get a nice trust mouse and keyboard and add windows 8.0.
keep away from 8.1. got fooled to buy it and is junk.
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January 23, 2014 11:53:59 PM

Just a reminder, please use Australian prices (http://au.pcpartpicker.com), the price difference between the US and AU is quite major and we don't get mail in rebates
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January 24, 2014 12:01:00 AM

rolandzhang3 said:
Just a reminder, please use Australian prices (http://au.pcpartpicker.com), the price difference between the US and AU is quite major and we don't get mail in rebates


This, the desktop PC I'm building next week or the week after (I'm paying $1130 for everything I'm buying except OS, RAM, monitor, mouse and keyboard which I already have) would have cost me a bit less than $1000 if I was in the US. If anyone could use that site it'd save me some hassle looking for the parts and converting to AUD.
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January 24, 2014 12:03:45 AM

He'd do pretty well with an APU build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($125.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($69.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply ($42.09 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($115.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($151.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $739.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-24 19:08 EST+1100)

Damn, still quite expensive :lol: , 8GB used to cost around $40-50 a year ago

If not doing anything intensive like video editing or gaming, you could get away with a kit of 4GB (2x2GB) memory to save some cash

Could also save some more going with a case which comes with a generic PSU

Of course, that depends on the pricing and availability at your local retailer
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January 24, 2014 12:18:34 AM

sorry for the inconvenience then.
here is the build with au prices

PartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2GESM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2GESM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2GESM/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($135.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($108.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.58 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($84.00 @ PLE Computers)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($23.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($108.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Monitor: AOC E2260SWDN 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($132.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $798.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-24 19:22 EST+1100)

wow they know how to compete at ridiculous prices with germany o.o
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January 24, 2014 12:23:09 AM

Haha they sure do, I saw a GTX 650 Ti for $250 in a local store here lol
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January 24, 2014 12:25:22 AM

great. building a gaming pc there is a dream :D .
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January 24, 2014 5:26:04 PM

That last build looks good, and my friend could just buy a cheap kb/mouse from a store. I'll get in contact with him and see what he thinks.
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January 24, 2014 6:14:12 PM

So I actually designed a build like an hour or so ago. Designed to be small and to be used for LAN events mostly. Its cost was like 479 i think or so in US prices. In AUD it would be 549 before a screen and such. Would not be bad. It also has built in wifi.

The best way to get a screen cheap is second hand. On my local CL I see 1080p 21-23inch screens for 30-40 dollars a lot.

As far as generals. For a build like this where he really is not gaming at all you definetly should go integrated to save so money. The AMD's integrated is better then the Intels option of i3s. Not to mention it is also cheaper.

Anywho here is my solution for you!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($103.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone PS08W MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $518.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-24 21:09 EST-0500)

518.35 converted is 595. So you would have 150 or so for moniter and such. So not that bad. You could save some money by going with a non modular and weaker power supply. I just went with the 500w as the extra power would not be bad. And I went with semi modular just to make it easier to wire it up. Could also save a teeny amount on the case. I went with the Silverstone just because I like the way it looks. So you could save like 20 USD getting a cheaper one although the front usb's will probably be usb2.0 which is not a huge deal.

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January 24, 2014 6:26:57 PM

You should have just used au.pcpartpicker.com, converting is never accurate, we don't have MIR nor do we have exact conversion prices :( 

Then again, with that Intel build he can just purchase a gaming class GPU and use it as a gaming rig in the future when he might actually want to so there's that at least (as well as a future i5/i7 upgrade)
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January 24, 2014 7:44:20 PM

That is true. If going to upgrade to a dedicated GPU sometime in the future then yes. That would make more sense. Although with that said he could go with a mini itx board and everything else for this build. Then when he got into gaming you can put a dedicated into the A- setup as well. Also with an a- setup if you have a bit more cash and part availability you can also make a pretty decent mini itx build using what I have listed. Just would need a different mobo. Thats if he ever wants to build a gaming pc anyways.

Anyways i redid the build in AuPCpart. Did not know there was an AU version. The price was actually pretty close. Although they did not have the exact same RAM and Powersupply. I changed the powersupply to a completely non modular as all the semi modulars were way more expensive then I felt they should be.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($125.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($89.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($107.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Silverstone PS08W MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($108.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $615.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-25 14:42 EST+1100)
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January 24, 2014 8:04:52 PM

Do you think this one would be good?

Monitor
AOC E2260SWDN 60hz for $132

CPU
AMD A8-6600K for $125

MOBO
ASRock FM2A88M-HD+ for $89

System Memory
Corsair 8GB (2x4 GB) DDR3-1333mhz for $108

Storage
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD for $69

Case
Silverstone PS08W Micro-ATX for $49

PSU
XFX Pro Series 650W 80+ Bronze for $62

Optical Drive
LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD for $22

OS
MS Windows 8 64-bit for $108
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January 24, 2014 8:25:17 PM

Is that in USD or AUD? The PSU is overboard but if it is on sale go for it. The ram though personally i think should be 1600mhz. When you are running an APU it uses the ram that it shares with the cpu. So I personally would not skimp on it (although looking back i picked 1333mhz ram as well on accident lol).

For RAM this is what you want: http://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-8gb-2x-4gb-ddr3...

Also you can save a little on the proccesser by going with the A8 5600k. The 6600k is 10 dollars more in the US not sure about AU though.
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January 25, 2014 1:38:18 AM

stop recommending a8 apus.
firstly they are not reliable at all.
I wouldn't find normal to buy something lower than a athlon/ fx /i3 or higher cpu. he wants some quality and durability.
a10 can fare better but they are still weak apus. for that money fx 6300 with a hd 5450, gts 210 makes more sense.
take into consideration if he ever wants to upgrade he will have to change both cpu, mainboard (new windows license) instead of just adding a good gpu..
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January 25, 2014 2:23:13 AM

Haha A8 APUs are decent quad core units, for everyday use they are already quite powerful (hell, for everyday use my 5 year old E8500 is more than adequate), the a8-6600k is the rough equivalent to the a10-5800k in raw performance, the only non reliable part about them is the stock cooler which is rubbish

How are they not reliable or durable? haha, you can often find great performance at lower prices, the Pentium G3220 being a very powerful dual core for only $72 and the Athlon 750k/760k (not available in AU, but many budget gamers get this) which is essentially an A10 without the graphics, and there aren't any accounts of these being unreliable, only heat problems because of the crappy stock cooler

They are also overclockable with a decent cooler, so for most games they shouldn't be holding anything under a 270x back, especially overclocked so he'd be fine for the next few years, we're not suggesting dual core A4 or A6 for that reason

That being said, AM3+ is just about dead and gone as well, so if you want any upgrade headroom the only route is Intel

Bottom line being that an APU is a decent balance for a budget system, a decent quad core with integrated graphics roughly equivalent to the 6570/6670, both of which are more than triple the performance of a lower end GPU, if you're worried about reliability then simply buy a cheap aftermarket cooler like the TX3 or T4
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January 25, 2014 3:20:37 AM

a8 6600 k may be a quad core.
but given it's single threaded performance which is weaker than a celeron is quite expensive choice for a bit of future proof. and it won't bring more power than an intel dual core anyways. since he will use the pc only for documents, video and surfing and other programs which are single threaded optimized there are better choices.
I know lotsa people who owned a8 cpus and had lot of bottleneck in certain softwares and games.
I am only taking everyday use in consideration here.
indeed if he ocs the cpu that's another story but will he? taking his wishes into consideration guess no since he wants long lifespan.
given that a8 costs 120$ and he can get for 130$ a i3 haswell with a good mainboard where he can later upgrade to i5/i7 without needing new mainboard and windows why buy something on a dead sockel?
well is up to him anyways.
if he wants multi thread power for some edit too then fx 6300 is the best choice possible.
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January 25, 2014 3:42:06 AM

It will be better than a regular dual core for multitasking purposes, he doesn't sound like the type of person who'd play games anyway so either should be fine (considering that he's replacing an ipad)

Again, certain games which the 6300 will experience problems as well (MMOs like GW2 and WoW), then a G3220 should do the job fine too, should save about $60-70 until he decides to get an i5 or something

Then again I wouldn't really recommend an FX-6300 based system at this time either since a reliable 970 board would cost more than a decent B85 board so that'd make no sense either, the amount of stock we have in Australia also gets pulled very quickly so that would be another dead end (so replacements and such are a nightmare)

Actually, a single stick of 4GB is enough for the time being (just add in another identical 4GB stick in future if needed), might able to squeeze in an i5 into that list somehow :lol: 

Well damn, had to remove the Optical drive but managed to fit an i5 4440 in (some of this list consists of placeholders, view MSY for local availability and pricing)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($212.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: GeIL DRAGON 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.00 @ PLE Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Cooler Master K380 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($115.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: AOC E2260SWDN 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($132.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $779.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-25 22:54 EST+1100)

Even if running in single channel DDR3-1333, 1080p videos shouldn't be a problem at all for the HD 4600

For those interested, msy is one of the more popular retailers in AU

http://www.msy.com.au/index.jsp

So if you want directly from MSY

i5-4440 $212

Gigabyte GA-B85M-HD3 $86 (or other B85 or H87 board that you see fit)

Patriot Signature 4GB Single DDR3-1600 PSD34G160081 $45 (or another 4GB stick that you want)

WD Caviar Blue 1TB $68

Antec VP450 $59 or Corsair VS550 $65 (Antec more reliable in this situation but your pick)

Case of your choice should be around $50 or so

Generic DVD-RW drive if you so please

Windows as above

Monitor is your pick http://www.msy.com.au/default.jsp?category=50
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January 25, 2014 5:21:44 AM

i don't see the reason why you are so enflared on overestimating that apu a8 but whatever.
every day use id based on single threaded softwares not multi threaded. 2 cores are enough.
fx 6300 or even better fx 8320 are better choices if he intends to make some editing, rendering... that's why I mentioned them. you wouldn't want an apu for that would you? 0.0 (didn't mention games but even there they will crush an apu).
leaving that aside your last build would be the best suggestion.
as for the ram is safer to go with gskill, corsair, crucial or patriot.
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January 25, 2014 5:40:45 AM

Sorry I probably misinterpreted you then, but that is not important anymore thankfully :D 

A single cheap stick of 4GB would do well for now, adding in another 4GB stick would be much more cost effective than upgrading from a G3220 or an i3 to an i5 :lol: 
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January 25, 2014 7:44:29 AM

yeap.
heck 3 years ago I was using 2gb of ram.
everything ran perfectly. I can even play skyrim on that pc without getting crashes or other problems lol.
man shitty prices there. x.x

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January 25, 2014 2:52:15 PM

Yep, something we gotta live with haha
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