$600 Budget Gaming PC for Crysis 3?

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Ok, I know this is far fetched, but can it be done? My cousin want me to build him a gaming pc in a month or so and he needs it cheap as possible but still able to play Crysis 3 at decent frame rates. I picked the following from TigerDirect. Can I do better for $600? Please let me know. All help is appreciated. I suppose it can be upgraded in the future. He does NOT have an OS, but does have a monitor (TV), mouse, and keyboard. Thanks, Jake.

The parts I picked from TigerDirect:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8688729&sku=B69-00045

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3232686&sku=TSD-WD10EZEX

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8528704&sku=LQR-101777441

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5213932&sku=M17-7302
 
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All right so here is a quick build from PCpartpicker by no means definitive but if you could just dish out a $100 more up-front (due to rebates) you would have a pretty sweet entry level rig

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2I2KY
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2I2KY/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2I2KY/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor-includes CPU cooler ($69.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce...

minerva330

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All right so here is a quick build from PCpartpicker by no means definitive but if you could just dish out a $100 more up-front (due to rebates) you would have a pretty sweet entry level rig

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2I2KY
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2I2KY/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2I2KY/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor-includes CPU cooler ($69.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: BitFenix Outlaw ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.07 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($84.78 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $662.45

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-26 16:19 EST-0500)

If you could find an old OS lying around you would fall within budget


Edit: just to put the difference in performance in perspective between the AMD 7770 and 760...http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/777?vs=854
 
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I don't have an old OS lying around. Preferably, all the parts should be bought from the same retailer or maybe two, but ordering would be a hassle and it would be much easier for the parts to arrive on my porch in one shipment. If I can pick them up at Fry's electronics or TigerDirect stores (both are reasonably close to be in Aurora, IL) that would be even better.

And by "decent" performance, I mean at least medium settings, and at least over 30fps at 1080p. I can talk with him to see if he can go up on price, but the PC can be upgraded as he gets more money I suppose. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate.

Jake
 

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Ok, but I need Windows 7. It's for my cousin who's new to PC gaming. Where should I look for these parts? Newegg, Amazon, TigerDirect, etc.?
 

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In your first parts list you posted you had a micro ATX form factor, do you have a preference?

Also there is literally very little difference in gaming between win 7 vs 8, some run better or worse, depends on your preference. Hardware will always be the rate limiting factor
 

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I have no preference on the case or MB as long as it's cheap. That's why I picked them. I would, however, prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8. Thanks.
 

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All right bud, here you go everything you need.

I decided to let you stay with you micro ATX since that is what you first posted.

It all from tigerdirect so you can subtract shipping

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ibf6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ibf6/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ibf6/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($86.47 @ TigerDirect)

Motherboard: Asus A55BM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)

Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($85.27 @ TigerDirect)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.99 @ TigerDirect)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($147.27 @ TigerDirect)

Case: Xion XON-560 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($48.42 @ TigerDirect)

Power Supply: Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ TigerDirect)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ TigerDirect)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 or Win 8 makes no difference their the same price (64-bit) ($97.27 @ TigerDirect)

Total: $612.83 (not including shipping)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-26 20:17 EST-0500)
 

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The card you suggested is is $240 on newegg how does that even come close to his proposed budget?

AMD Athlon X4 750K CPU-79.99

MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Motherboard-69.99

2GB Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X Graphics Card

8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM-87.99

1TB Western Digital Caviar Black Hard Drive-129.99

500W Corsair CX500 Power Supply-69.99

Rosewill Line-M Case-54.99

windows-90.00

didn't even include a DVD drive-say 20.00


Total comes to 842.94, almost 50% over his budget

Instead of whining about who should get the best answer maybe should actually take the time to help the guy out

 

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look no further..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus A85XM-A Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($63.48 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($39.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $644.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-26 20:50 EST-0500)

i'm sending you a message about the operating system aswell
 

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Bottom-line is you can scrimp and save on a lot of the parts, its always going to come down to the video card. All of these builds that are listed here they are fairly similar, the variable is always the same-the GPU.

Also I realize that you want to stick with one vendor (a factor the above user failed to notice) but you will save if you spread it out over several, they compete for a reason.

The build I first listed and emj just listed are fairly identical in price and performance, although he is not taking into account the upfront money you will have to dish-out in rebates in order to get the posted listed price and he hasn't configured it properly.

Case in point, the minimum PSU for 760 IS 500W http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications

430W is cutting really close
 

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I think my build blows every other build here out of the water. and exactly. google windows loader by DAZ get some blank dvd rw's and you're set. microsoft is a devil company anyways. not telling you to do anything either at the end of the day is your choice alone.
 

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thats just a estimate with the 430 watt he'll still have room for some overclocking at stock this build will consume around 316watts.
 

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the 760 also blows the 260x out of the water by quite a margin. this build is still under 600$ without the OS.trust me this is what you want bud.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus A85XM-A Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($63.48 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($39.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $559.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-26 21:12 EST-0500)

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/8632-Archived-Windows-Loader-The-Official-Thread

http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325/

under 600$ and a free OS. win win and more win
you're welcome.
 

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I see. http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/87/AMD_Athlon_X4_750K_vs_AMD_FX-Series_FX-4130.html

the 750k actually is slightly better in single threaded apps as well as it runs at about 25watts less then the fx at stock. so the 430w really is more then enough even with a mild overclock.
 

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I don't understand your argument. The PSU I proposed in my original build was a 650w. What's the purpose of your cpu comparison? You understand we're just splitting hairs.

And as I said before a 430 is cutting it close calculate the tdp/power draw for all the components and you'll see
 

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i'm not trying to believe me i'm just trying to help this guy get the best possible set up for his money.
 

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I understand your motive but your misinformed and you could potentially cause someone to lose both their hard-earned time and money.

Nvidia's own minimum recommendations for their card, the 760 is 500W...http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications

Others have come to the same conclusion on this site and others...http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1718537/gtx760-gtx770-psu-requirements.html

Lastly, calculate it out for yourself...http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp (that's what I did) and you'll see that the PSU you recommended is cutting it really really close if you incorporate all the other potential components. Nvidia recommends a minimum PSU for a reason, of course there's leeway, but why mess around with the stability of your system for a measly $40-$50

Regardless, if the person who started this thread is smart he'll do a lot of research and not just take the word of a couple user's on one forum. Especially user's that haven't even hit 50 posts yet, myself included.
 
1) pirated software is bad news. sorry to see people sort of proposing it here. Educational version of windows is cheap if you meet criteria, else win7 or win8 OEM 64.
2) google "$500 gaming build" with a filter that only looks in the last month or so. You'll see many options, most will be AMD or intel dual core pentium. -or-
3) Get any $350 refurb PC in a mini-tower case with an intel processor ivy bridge or later. Add a $250 video card. For example, $310 plus shipping: Intel Core i3-3240 3.4GHz, 6GB , 1TB, Windows 8 Standard 64 - English. Then $50 for PSU and $240 for video card = 600.
http://outlet.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/outlet_us/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?hide_menu_area=true&GroupID=445&Code=57RF0098
 

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#3 That's a decent idea, if you want to go the refurb route and deal outside of tiger, that is probably your best option. I personally, try and stay away from refurb but performance to price ratio can't be beat. The possibility of upgrades may be a little more limited but not so much so when compared to any of the other builds on here
 

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I could simply care less. Microsoft is the devil. billion dollar corporation yet there's millions of homless on this earth while bill and his CEO's are all driving the finest cars and living large, lets talk about how much of a devil tactic it is to squeeze every last dime out of you with OEM's huh? I've bought my fair share of windows shit being a pc user since the early 90's. I've also bought a few windows 7 OEMs. truth hurts doesn't it? a corrupted system hurts even more. go ahead ban me I don't care its nothing to create a new account here you don't even need to verify an email to post. not trying to be rude or ignorant. i'm just sick of corruption.