Rebuilding my PC: mobo+cpu+ram+gpu+cooling

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Hi All! This is my first post here after yerars reading this forum!

Im looking after some help to upgrade/renovate/rebuild my computer! Wich i will dome at the end of February-March

The main point of the post is found a bout bunch of component for a Gamer computer. I have been and AMD fanboy for someyears, but now im disspointed and im looking after a nice Intel RIG.

Im a bit puzzled because im full noob in intel world. I see that the mainstream processors nowdays are i7 4770 sk 1150 and 4820 sk2011. The 1150, as i have seen is the best price/performance, but thinking in the future 2011 looks better choice... and about mobos... :pt1cable:
The RAM im pretty sure that will be gskill trident 2000+MHz unless you recomend another ones. Im not sure if 4x8Gb or 8x4Gb (if 2011)

The custion, which would be better for me?
I7 4770, 4770S, 4770K sk1150??? or better sk2011 with i7 3820, 4820k xeon 2620 (a bit more expensive about what im thinking for a micro)
About mobos, I like asus Sabertooth X79 and rampage 4 Xtreme looks good and are in the money im thinking to spend (i really doubt that more expensibe mobos worth it (the ones i had choose are in the edge).

The VGA Asus GtX 660 3Gb or GTX760 2-4Gb or its equivalent on amd that should be R9 280X 3-4Gb

The components that I already have and will still using them in my new rig: OCZ Vector 128Gb (main disk) + 1Tb Seagate 7200.14 (games) + 2Tb WD Green (movies, etc). Case Coolermaster CM690 (all fan slots with 12cm coolermaster and tacens), LG DVD unit, Tacens Radix III 1200W PSU, Samsung 23" 1080p Monitor, Sidewinder x8 mouse, oldie (and loved) IBM mechanic keyboard.

Recomendations, suggestions???


Txs!
 
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Hmm, if you are really wanting to go with LGA 2011, it might not be a bad choice for you, for a few reasons.

One, Intel is releasing their new Haswell-E processors Q1 2015, which will have an increase of two cores per chip (e.g. the 5820k will be hex-core now instead of quad-core, and the 5930k will be octa-core instead of hex-core) So if you would like to go with a 4820k now, you would be able to upgrade to those processors if it seemed necessary.

Two, you will have more RAM slots, allowing you to have 64Gb of memory down the road if you decide that you need that much memory.

Now, I could go ahead and say that a third would be that you will have more PCI-e lanes to run CFX or SLI, yet, you're better off getting a higher end single...
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Just get a i5 4670K as you are just going to be gaming and the i7 4770K if your doing any rendering. Any Z78 motherboard are mostly the same except the higher price has some better feature and quality. Get 1600mhz 8x4Gb of ram since 2000mhz wont have much preformance difference.
 
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Hi! thaxs for your response!

Im just wondering if looking for something that is supposed to last 4-6 years (excluding VGA upgrade) Does a 100€ difference worth loose HT, and 4Mb of cache.

Overclock for me is welcome when needed.
 
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Hi -

Just wanted to clarify on the RAM - the way I read it, 8x4GB would be 8 sticks of 4GB each, and I'm not sure that's what you want. If you get 2 sticks of 4GB each, you'll have 8GB of RAM total, which is plenty, and you'll have the 2 sticks so that you can take full advantage of the dual-channel memory features.
 
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Yes but if take an x79 mobo thing that could happen, i woul d have 4 channel. In that case 32Gb could be the standar in de next 3-4-5 years, so having 8 slots is useful. Also 4Gb slots uses to have better latencies, but 2x8gb is cheaper that 4x4Gb.
 
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Well, if you were to go with the i5-4670k, that operates on LGA 1150, so that limits you to a 4-dimm setup with a Maximum RAM capacity of 32gb.

If you would like to use LGA 2011 however, you would have to purchase at least a 4820k processor. That is slightly more expensive than a 4770k, and would imply that you would spend more money on your memory, which would thereby leave you with less money to upgrade your other parts (which I do believe is the intention of this post). My recommendation would just be to stick with an i5-4670k for now. This will leave you a lot more room for things such as a better Video card, and more money for memory. In the future if you do notice your processor is falling behind in a few games, then you can always overclock it since it is a 'k' series unlocked processor.

As for what memory you should purchase, go with 2x8 since you will be purchasing a less-expensive processor. The reason that I would recommend going with a 2x8 over a 4x4 is simply because if you ever wanted to upgrade from a 4x4gb setup, then you would have to purchase an entire set rather than just throwing in two more dimms.

If you have any further questions, let me know.

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Thanks for your comprehsive response, what you sais has a lot of sense, but i had bit different point of view.

In my case, i belive that graphics cards are the component that becomes outdated faster (2-3 years) so replace it is assumed. With processor and mobo doesent happen de same, IMO.
A good processor 3 years ago still good now, for example i7 920, 970, i5 2600k... they are still able to move all new app, games, etc. So invest now in a beter micro taht will last more years lookes for me better, because if i need to upgrade it in the future al will ned to replace mobo wich is spent double money.
Thats the reason why i'm sticked into 4770, 4820 and really improbably 4930. In both cases Sabertooth mobos looks the better for me (5yrs warranty) and PCI (i dont have wired conection, so PCI or wifi is a must for me).
If i should take gtx 660 instead of 770 or R9 280 is not that problematic casue i could upgrade or make CF/SLI.

I would overclock when needed so i prefer parts that has this capability. Also i had no problem to go with Xeon micros if they worth it.

That is the point whyle im undecided. I would prefer to get 4930 but is too expensive (im noob about intel, but waht i know is that their "top" micros doesent lower its prices along time). Then pick a 4820 would be a bad choice, what looks better is go for 4770 but im undecided about geting 8 memory slots and the pcie lanes... And i dont know if could get 4820 and later sell it and shitch to 4930. Also I know that intel will change 2011 socket and x79 chipset in their next bulk of new micros, but do they launch some of them into 2011?.

By know the best option is 4770, if there is now new that will be my choice, with corsair h110, and 2x8Gb 2133 (or maybe 2400 they are very close in price and i would have more room to overclock).

Also at this point imnot decided between sabertooth z87 and maximus vi formula.

Hope you can help me :)
 
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Hmm, if you are really wanting to go with LGA 2011, it might not be a bad choice for you, for a few reasons.

One, Intel is releasing their new Haswell-E processors Q1 2015, which will have an increase of two cores per chip (e.g. the 5820k will be hex-core now instead of quad-core, and the 5930k will be octa-core instead of hex-core) So if you would like to go with a 4820k now, you would be able to upgrade to those processors if it seemed necessary.

Two, you will have more RAM slots, allowing you to have 64Gb of memory down the road if you decide that you need that much memory.

Now, I could go ahead and say that a third would be that you will have more PCI-e lanes to run CFX or SLI, yet, you're better off getting a higher end single card than purchasing several smaller, less powerful ones. For example, if you were considering getting two 760's instead of a 780 then you would be better off going for the 780 that way you don't have to worry about the card scaling poorly, etc. The only time that I would personally advise running in SLI out of the gate is if you are already considering getting something like a Titan or 780ti, since you can't get higher than those cards. Other than that, try to stick to a single card solution out of the gate.

This is where I think you would be able to save yourself some money by going with LGA 1150.

Personally, this is what I will be operating on when I finish up my new rig. I was going back and forth just like you between the 4770k and the 4930k. I chose the 4770k for a few reasons. At the moment, I am only going to do some light encoding and rendering in AE, meaning when, in about a year, I get pretty good at it and need more hardware power to do things such as 3-D ray-traced rendering in AE, then I could just upgrade to the new x99 motherboards as well as the new Haswell-E Architecture. Spending less money now, will allow me in the future to get the biggest and baddest motherboard and processor in the future.

Then again, this all comes down to what you are planning to do with the rig. Do you have plans on Gaming? Editing? Rendering? Running a server? Maybe a combination between a few of these? Let me know, and that will help me make a recommendation for you.

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karl_azytzeen

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Thanks for your responses, probably the main demanding thing that i will do is gaming BF4, 3, MS fligt simulator, Arma 3... and sometimes a bit of image editing.

Thanks for your time.

PS: I had looked and Im very interested in Maximus VI Formula and its "exclusive" features like audio qulity and wifi (i had pci cards for that now, but Z87 premium mobos lacks of this ports, and the same happens with the x79 i had seen)

PPS: I had an old watercooling kit by gigabyte that i could use at Maximus VI cooling and will give a bit more "pro like" image to the commputer :p )
 
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Oh, if your only intentions with the computer are gaming, then if it was me putting this together then I would just go with something like the 4670k. This way, with the money you have left over you can save when the newer, more prevalent things are available. For example, when games start requiring more expensive hardware, the prices will go down on them. Let's look at 4k resolution monitors, those things cost thousands of dollars. Whenever they become relevant however, they should cost closer to what a 1440p monitor costs today (approx. 600 USD). It simpler terms, but only what you need for 60 fps now, and then whenever it seems necessary, upgrade to better specs.

As for the Maximus VI Formula, it's what I personally will be using. Overall, it's a badass motherboard, with the best onboard sound card on the market. Not only that, but the ROG armour looks absolutely beautiful installed in a case, and it prevents any kind of scratches from ruining the motherboard as a whole. Plus, it has 6 USB 3.0 ports in the rear, and two available for the front. (More than you should reasonably need, but are nice to have)

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karl_azytzeen

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Thanks!

Now im very sure about the mobo. But im backdoubting with the micro, does just 87€ difference worth lost HT and Cache, while i dont expect to replace it in short terms? (and i dont think that i will replace my monitor also (im fine with my 23" 1080 samsung :p )

http://www.pccomponentes.com/intel_core_i7_4770k_3_5ghz_box.html

http://www.pccomponentes.com/intel_core_i5_4670k_3_4ghz_box.html

Thanxs for your help!

EDIT: Im pretty sure geting 4770k. Both are very close and has the same performance /core but 770 has the HT boost. Also BF4 uses HT and next generation games that will be alse be released for conseles also will take profit of 8 cores micros.
 
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