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January 26, 2014 5:15:20 PM

I am planning on building a High End Gaming PC, so I want the highest specification hardware to go along, but I am really suck for ideas. I know that if I were to build a AMD machine, it would have the 8-core 5GHz AMD FX-9590, but if I were to go to Intel, I would have HyperThreaded 6 core Intel i7 4930k. Each CPU will be cooled using the Corsair 120mm Hydeo Serires H80i water cooler, so need to worry about heat while overclocking. But this also does come down to the motherboard. So, here is the CPU with the cosponsoring motherboard.

AMD FX-9590 with the Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Motherboard.

Intel i7 4930k with the Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel x79 2011.

Although I'm still not sure which motherboard to choose for the CPU, after some research, these are the best I could find. And help on the motherboard would also be very thankful.
Anyway, the main thing I will be doing will be gaming, but I will also be doing recording, video editing and rendering. (Fraps and Sony Vegas) And I just want a CPU which will deliver the best preforming power throughout all tasks I throw at it. Before you ask, the GPU I'm planning on getting is the EVGA GTX 780ti, but having 2 in SLI. And don't worry about the power consumption. I'm getting the Corsair AX1200 or the AX1200i. Which ever is in stock at the time.

I have got £5k to spend, but I'm also planning on getting a new keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitors, webcam, headset and microphone. So, not all the £5k is going towards the build itself. The other extras I can get with the Intel would be the 64GB RAM I can have, but AMD still has a way to fight back, and that is with it's on board sound card.
Anyway, I hope you guys can help me with this age old question. AMD vs Intel and if you guys have any ideas for hardware I should change, please don't be afraid to say so.

Oh, one last thing. The games I'm planning on playing are Battlefield 3/4, Titan Fall, Arma II (Mainly for DayZ), Call of Duty: Black Ops II and the original Call of Duty, Team Fortress 2 and just some of the new games which should be coming out this year. I really just want to be able to play them maxed out with a minimum of 40FPS average.

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January 26, 2014 5:23:03 PM

Intel i7 4930k with the Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel x79 2011.
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January 26, 2014 5:24:04 PM

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January 27, 2014 5:38:05 AM

whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
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No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.
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January 27, 2014 5:45:05 AM

PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
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No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.


http://ark.intel.com/products/76161/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
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January 27, 2014 6:01:39 AM

AMD cannot compete with any intel extreme processors therefore the 4930k will win at anything I can think of.
A 4770k can beat a 9590 in 9/10 task.
Something like streaming which require alot of SIMD and integer instruction is the only thing the 9590 would win at, but then there is gaming, and gaming wont be using SIMD so here intel would pull up front again.
I would never go above the fx 8320 as the 8350 and entire 9xxx series is a 8320 overclocked.


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January 27, 2014 6:14:13 AM

bouncedk said:
Intel $580
AMD $400

And people honestly expect them to compete head to head? haha


They want to compare the top-line CPU from each manufacturer.
And if we see how much performance you gain going from 9590 to a 4930k I do believe it's worth it.
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January 27, 2014 3:27:46 PM

whitecat said:
PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
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No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.


http://ark.intel.com/products/76161/Intel-Xeon-Processo...


I don't have £2k to spend on just a CPU...
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January 27, 2014 7:45:19 PM

Let's all get intel. Then we can all be the same.......
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January 27, 2014 8:01:50 PM

PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
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No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.


I have one thing to add and it is this: You shouldn't compare clock speeds between Intel and AMD CPUs and here's why. In fact, even as far as individual cores go, the 4930K is faster, see here.
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January 27, 2014 8:22:59 PM

PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
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No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.


http://ark.intel.com/products/76161/Intel-Xeon-Processo...


I don't have £2k to spend on just a CPU...


according to Pass Mark
i7 4930k -13491 points (numler 10 in the world)
AMD FX-9590 - 10443 points
Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2687W v2 -16608 points (number 3 in the world)
i7 4770K-10353 points
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4930K-vs-AMD-FX-9...
Go for i7 4930k
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January 28, 2014 12:45:49 AM

whitecat said:
PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
mobo Asus Z87-A


No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.


http://ark.intel.com/products/76161/Intel-Xeon-Processo...


I don't have £2k to spend on just a CPU...


according to Pass Mark
i7 4930k -13491 points (numler 10 in the world)
AMD FX-9590 - 10443 points
Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2687W v2 -16608 points (number 3 in the world)
i7 4770K-10353 points
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4930K-vs-AMD-FX-9...
Go for i7 4930k

This is not because I dont agree with you, but the whole "benchmark" things shows almost nothing.
When you run a benchmark a CPU, the benchmark will only use a few type of instructions.
If we could have a benchmark, where the benchmark tested all instructions that would be perfect, like a stresstester-benchmark.

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January 30, 2014 8:50:59 AM

vmN said:
whitecat said:
PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
mobo Asus Z87-A


No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.


http://ark.intel.com/products/76161/Intel-Xeon-Processo...


I don't have £2k to spend on just a CPU...


according to Pass Mark
i7 4930k -13491 points (numler 10 in the world)
AMD FX-9590 - 10443 points
Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2687W v2 -16608 points (number 3 in the world)
i7 4770K-10353 points
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4930K-vs-AMD-FX-9...
Go for i7 4930k

This is not because I dont agree with you, but the whole "benchmark" things shows almost nothing.
When you run a benchmark a CPU, the benchmark will only use a few type of instructions.
If we could have a benchmark, where the benchmark tested all instructions that would be perfect, like a stresstester-benchmark.



Yea, a benchmark that tests all aspects of a CPU. That is something I need. But I also would like to hear people's opinions. I am honestly stuck on which one to choose. You know what I'm planning on using it for. Just, which one would be better that those needs?
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January 30, 2014 12:01:51 PM

4930k > 4770k > 9590.
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January 30, 2014 12:29:20 PM

vmN said:
4930k > 4770k > 9590.


+1, AMD's core # advantage does not exist in higher end CPUs, single core performance remains weak compared to Intel, and price differences are not as limiting as in budget builds.
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January 30, 2014 12:31:03 PM

The Intel. It beats out the AMD in most every category: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4930K-vs-AMD-FX-9..., and does it using way less power in the process. The only significant benefit that I see for the AMD is that it's noticeably cheaper.

As said before, 4770k/8350 would probably be much cheaper alternatives that would probably serve your purposes just as well. But if you want to spend $400-500 on just the cpu then it's your money
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January 30, 2014 12:36:04 PM

PlymouthJoseph said:
whitecat said:
cpu i7 4770
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No offensive WhiteCat, but I personally want something with more than 4 cores. I know the i7 4770 has the new Haswell which is better than Ivybridge, and has the extended 64MB cache. But I am really looking for a CPU with a minimum of 6 cores, mainly because I am going to be having 3 monitors and I will be doing a fair bit of multi-talking with multiple tabs of Google Chrome and also Microsoft Word and maybe even a game. So, the more cores I have, the better it will run. Hence I chose the i7 4930k because of it having 6 cores and also it being HyperTreaded. But also the FX-9590 because it has 8 cores and 5GHz processing power. That's the reason I'm stuck. But again, if you are willing to list me a alternative, I will be more than happy to have a look.


Do the 9590. It's perfectly capable of your needs. People were just angry when it costed a grand. It's at a price of where it should be now a couple hundred. It would be better to consider the 9370 though. It's priced right around the 8350 and you don't get much gain on the 9590. 300mhz for 100 $. If you think positively the high TDP is actually a good thing. Of course you would raise the Thermal Design of a chip running at 5 Ghz out of the box. Anyone that knows what overclocking is knows that raising the voltage is part of the game. Doesn't mean these chips run at 220W all the time just means they can tolerate the heat and currant running through it. I would say you would burn an 8350 or any other chip before 9 series would cook. They are excellent for multithreaded tasks. If your trying to get to the top of the benchmark lists by all means go Intel
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January 30, 2014 12:44:21 PM

if your doing a budget build then go for the AMD CPU if not than go for the INTEL CPU but most of the intel cpu's can be out preformed by the cheaper AMD CPU
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January 30, 2014 7:29:52 PM

Xtwargodtx said:
if your doing a budget build then go for the AMD CPU if not than go for the INTEL CPU but most of the intel cpu's can be out preformed by the cheaper AMD CPU

The statement above is not true at all, look at the cpu Hierarchy chart from Tom's
for gaming.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...
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January 30, 2014 7:36:02 PM

Here are the reasons to consider each:
Intel: Pure performance leader, strong single core performance.
AMD: Physical cores, higher performance PER dollar performance.

If you want performance Intel almost always takes it. If you want it without breaking the bank AMD becomes viable.
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January 30, 2014 7:44:35 PM

Do you want to save money or have the best performance? The FX 9590 doesn't even match the i7 4770k, much less the i7 4930k. You can save money by getting the 9590 but performance will suffer. You could save even more money and by a FX 8350 and overclock it to become a 9590.

I hate to just come on here and repeat what everybody else is saying, but AMD simply cannot compete in high end gaming.
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January 30, 2014 8:21:52 PM

CTurbo said:
Do you want to save money or have the best performance? The FX 9590 doesn't even match the i7 4770k, much less the i7 4930k. You can save money by getting the 9590 but performance will suffer. You could save even more money and by a FX 8350 and overclock it to become a 9590.

I hate to just come on here and repeat what everybody else is saying, but AMD simply cannot compete in high end gaming.
+1 enough said!!!!!


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January 31, 2014 2:59:43 AM

Ok guys. Thanks for the help! Looks like I have been lured to the Intel side, and with going with Intel and the Intel board, I am able to upgrade my RAM to 64GB :D  I know it is a little OTT but oh well. I am also trying to future-proof my PC.
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January 31, 2014 3:53:25 AM

9590 can't even beat 4770K (and 9590 is eating 2x more power). I you are even considering 9590 that only means that you do not need a 4930K system. Just get the 4770K and you'll be fine.
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February 27, 2014 2:54:46 AM

CTurbo said:
Do you want to save money or have the best performance? The FX 9590 doesn't even match the i7 4770k, much less the i7 4930k. You can save money by getting the 9590 but performance will suffer. You could save even more money and by a FX 8350 and overclock it to become a 9590.

I hate to just come on here and repeat what everybody else is saying, but AMD simply cannot compete in high end gaming.


I absolutely love these intel fanboys... </sarcasm>

Performance will absolutely NOT suffer... These guys are always talking from synthetic benchmarks... NOT real world. I'm running an FX9590 processor and the performance has been fantastic. My machine runs very fast and I play multiple high end games without any problems. Regardless of which way you go, you will NOT be disappointed...
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February 27, 2014 2:08:21 PM

ajcroteau said:
CTurbo said:
Do you want to save money or have the best performance? The FX 9590 doesn't even match the i7 4770k, much less the i7 4930k. You can save money by getting the 9590 but performance will suffer. You could save even more money and by a FX 8350 and overclock it to become a 9590.

I hate to just come on here and repeat what everybody else is saying, but AMD simply cannot compete in high end gaming.


I absolutely love these intel fanboys... </sarcasm>

Performance will absolutely NOT suffer... These guys are always talking from synthetic benchmarks... NOT real world. I'm running an FX9590 processor and the performance has been fantastic. My machine runs very fast and I play multiple high end games without any problems. Regardless of which way you go, you will NOT be disappointed...


I agree dude. My 9370 can handle any game any program. They are perfectly capable. And it doesn't consume the power people says it does. 159.66W vs 178.75W a mere 20w difference between the 8350 and 9370
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February 27, 2014 8:46:57 PM

From what I see on AMD's site it's 220w
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February 27, 2014 9:15:37 PM

4930K hands down will out perform just about anything currently available. However, I'd forget about the H-80i if you really want to push the envelope. Go for a dual radiator, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme for example. quieter fans at load, higher CFM, few bucks cheaper. And yet, that said, just how far do you plan on pushing that cpu? If you really want performance out of that cpu, drop kick the H-80i as hard and far as it'll go, cuz you are going to need full boat, balls to the wall, glow in the dark, kick-the-tires-and-light-the-fires-big-daddy! Water Cooling. And don't forget the SLI 780Ti. Cpu block, gpu blocks, RAM blocks, NB/SB/VRM blocks... Just a thought
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February 27, 2014 10:18:02 PM

Memhorder said:
I agree dude. My 9370 can handle any game any program. They are perfectly capable. And it doesn't consume the power people says it does. 159.66W vs 178.75W a mere 20w difference between the 8350 and 9370


How about we look at real numbers instead of some theoretical cpuboss crap?



Sure, that's not CPU only, but 9370 is +100W over 8350, not 20W.

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February 28, 2014 5:37:52 AM

mc962 said:
From what I see on AMD's site it's 220w


If you think that's what it runs at constantly than you need a little more training
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February 28, 2014 5:52:09 AM

rmpumper said:
Memhorder said:
I agree dude. My 9370 can handle any game any program. They are perfectly capable. And it doesn't consume the power people says it does. 159.66W vs 178.75W a mere 20w difference between the 8350 and 9370


How about we look at real numbers instead of some theoretical cpuboss crap?



Sure, that's not CPU only, but 9370 is +100W over 8350, not 20W.



And that's so that it has the voltage to safely give 5 Ghz when you need it. That's peak too I'm talking normal usage. Show me a graph of everyday use.
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February 28, 2014 10:10:01 AM

I don't hate the FX series cpus. My biggest problem with the FX9xxx cpus is I can buy a FX8320 for $149 and get a $29 Cooler Master 212 Evo and get FX9370 power out of it. A better cooler would allow near FX9590 performance out of it. That and the fact that the 9590 is clocked 25%(base) and 35%(turbo) higher than the 8320 yet it is barely 17%(single core) and 21%(total) faster when both are at stock speeds.
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February 28, 2014 10:37:19 AM

The i7 hands down. I've been a tech since 1996 and Intel processors outperform AMDs and are not problematic like AMDs are with some software and hardware (graphics). Sure AMDs are cheaper but then you get what you pay for. The extra money you pay for Intel is worth every penny.
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March 3, 2014 11:21:40 AM

I've now chosen to go Intel i7 4930k with the Asus Rampage IV Black Edition, the H100i with Noctua NF-F12s with 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws X RAM and 2 EVGA GTX 780ti SLI and it runs like a dream. Can plough through BF3 on high at 1080p across 3 monitors while using RAMdisk and I'm getting 60-120FPS.
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March 3, 2014 11:23:40 AM

That's awesome sir!!!
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March 3, 2014 12:29:56 PM

Thank you CTurbo! :D 
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