Building another AMD system, thoughts please?

vegetablegod · Jan 27, 2014

Hey everyone, new to the forums!

I have been wanting to upgrade for a while, and now I think it's time. I will be sticking with AMD as they are cheaper and to me, the additional specs aren't really worth the extra money. Just how I feel.

My current build:
Phemon II 945 with aftermarket air cooler
Some Gigabyte mATX motherobard lol
MSI Gold Edition 560ti
Patriot 1333Mhz 2x4GB RAM
Diablotek 750W PSU
Hitachi 500GB HDD

I will be reusing the RAM, GPU. and optical drive, from my current computer and I picked up a Corsair CX750M from tigerdirect for $50, after Mail in rebates. I am mainly buying this stuff from Amazon because i'm a Prime member, but I am also looking at newegg and tiger. If you know of any deals please let me know lol

Planned, newbuild:
AMD FX 8350
Corsair H100i
GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
Corsair Black C70 or possibly CM Storm Scout 2
I think I'm gonna go with Windows 8, but I am still on the Fence.
Seagate 1TB Solid State Hybrid Drive
Corsair SP120 twin pack.

This is basically maxing my $850 budget for everything I've yet you buy. My main question is, Since I will be doing a little over overclocking, do I really need FX 8350, or can I just buy the 8320 and overclock it past the 8350... It's basically the same chip, isn't it? And do I even need the eight core at all? would the 4300/4350 run just as well? Basic use is mainly gaming and light web browsing.. I do most of my browsing on my tablet.

Can someone also help me with which case I should get from the two I provided? I am kinda picky about cases and I like both of them. I want to push/pull the H100i and I've not been able to find much on being able to do that in the Storm Scout 2.

Could I get away with a cheaper motherboard and still overclock?

I'm also open to suggestions to other components.

Thanks!

combine1237 · Jan 27, 2014

If you don't need watercooling why not go with nocturna NH-D14 instead, I believe its 20 USD Cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002VKVZ1A/?tag=pcpapi-20

I would get the 8320 and save 40 USD Not really that much difference when overclocked.

Just get a cheap 1tb hdd and get an ssd separately or later.

If you are not including the psu in the budget, you could get something like this build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($152.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($78.48 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($136.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.94 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $775.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-27 15:56 EST-0500)

bjaminnyc · Jan 27, 2014

Personally I don't think the added cost of the 8350 is worth it over the 8320 especially with an h100i which ought to allow you to overclock an 8320 well past the 8350 @ stock. And, again, the cost difference between an 8320 and either of the 4xxx chips you mentioned isn't substantial enough not to just go with the 8 core, a decision you'll be happy with if you ever need to encode anything.

No reason not to go with 8. Some people complain that it isn't as power user friendly as 7 but that's debatable once you're familiar with the changes.

Can't help you with the case. I have a 500r, an h100i with a single pair of fans and an 8320. Could probably fit push/pull but I'm happy with my OC at this point. Probably more limited on my OC by my MB vs CPU heat.

bjaminnyc · Jan 27, 2014

combine1237 :

That case is sick.

vegetablegod · Jan 27, 2014

combine1237 :

Thanks for the advice and showing me PC Part Picker. That is am awesome utility. I think what I should do is take your advice and forgo the SSHD and doa normal HD/SSD combo, but I will save the SSD for later. I don't need water cooling, I just have been interested in it for a long time, so I'm gonna do it lol. Here's what I think I have decided on is this...

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($152.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($136.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.94 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit - OEM (64-bit) ($99.98 @ Best Buy)
Total: $641.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-27 16:46 EST-0500)

bjaminnyc :

That is pretty much what I thought. Would make sense to go with the 8320 and clock it past the 8350. As far as Windows goes, we'll see. I may try Windows 8, worst case, it still wouldn't be a catastrophe.

Thanks, both of you!

bjaminnyc · Jan 28, 2014

vegetablegod :

bjaminnyc :

You won't be disappointed with 8. In fact, I actually think the changes in 8.1 addressed a lot of the initial complaints which made it a superior OS. I recently moved all of my HTPCs to 8.1 due to the ability to access most media streaming application with a WMC remote via Metro where previously with 7 you needed mouse functionality to do everything outside of WMC. Although for desktop purposes you won't really ever use metro past boot.

I like Combine's build but think you'd be remiss not to purchase a SSD. IMHO you won't really be able to fully appreciate the additional processing power and speed with a platter HD. I had a SSD die not to long ago, switched to a 7,200 RPM drive during RMA and it felt like my box was in quicksand. I was so irritated by the overall speed change I ordered another SSD overnight delivery and used the RMA'd one just as a game drive once it arrived.

vegetablegod · Feb 6, 2014

Thanks for the input guys. I ordered the final stuff yesterday.

Right now I have the CX750M. Just picked up the H100i from Best Buy today.

This is what I went with...

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.93 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($176.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $744.87

I was gonna get the NZXT H440 case, but it will still be a few weeks before it releases. If I'm not happy with the C70 I'll exchange it for the H400.

Down the road I plan on getting an H55 and the NZXT Kraken G10 to water cool my GPU.

bjaminnyc · Feb 10, 2014

Nice build buddy. I absolutely love assembling a new build and that feeling of nervous excitement right before the first time you hit the power button hoping everything works. Good luck!

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