4k Gaming Questions + Titan Ultra

Christopher Gonzalez · Jan 27, 2014

Hey Guys!

I just have some questions about what's in the title:

Do all games support 4k Resolutions?

If not, how can I tell which do?

Is an 8 ms response time with a 4k Monitor good for gaming?

Will one display port cable support the bandwidth for 60Hz 4K?

I would really like to max out all the games I get at 4K. Would the Titan Ultra (Rumoured Specs: Fully Enabled GK110 GPU, 6 GB VRAM) be able to do this? I don't think the games I play are too graphically intensive (Battlefield 4, DayZ Standalone). I'm upgrading from the GTX 660 (See my sig.).

And just one, unrelated question:

Windows (7) is saying that my copy of it isn't "genuine". Every time I boot up it will tell me, and at the lower left hand of the screen it says this... I don't know how to fix it. Do you?

Thanks Guys!

cookybiscuit · Jan 27, 2014

All games made in the last few years support any resolution thats 16:9, though some need a bit of messing like ini files or fixes as they were made long before 1440p and 4K was a thing. 8ms is as good as it gets for IPS ol PLS.

There currently aren't any practical GPU solutions for 4K, atleast not in my opinion. If I were you I'd wait for Maxwell rather than SLI a bunch of Titan's hoping it will work. The Titan Ultra (if its even real) doesn't stand a chance at maxing games at 4K.

photonboy · Jan 27, 2014

1) First of all, just because it's running at 4K doesn't mean it looks any better. The game textures aren't that high, and anti-aliasing can smooth out jagged edges.

When I play SKYRIM for example at 1920x1080 or 2560x1440 on the same screen the ONLY difference is that the on-screen text is slightly sharper at the higher resolution. Now a 27" screen with 2560x1440 pixels does look better even when a game is running at 1920x1080 because you don't see the pixel gaps close-up but running games at 4K resolution is really pointless.

There are exceptions. I run some games at 2560x1440 like Starcraft II, Torchlight, CIV5.

I also doubt highly the "Titan Ultra" could run modern games at 4K, 60FPS, ULTRA.

I forget the numbers but I think 4K runs at about HALF of 2560x1440 and about a THIRD or less the frame rate of 1920x1080. Plenty of games need a GTX780 or GTX780Ti to run at fully quality, 60FPS at 1920x1080 and some need TWO of these cards. Just imagine what you'd then need for 4K!! (Hint: doesn't exist)

2) TITAN is a very poor choice for a gaming card. For example, there are GTX780's for about half the price ($520 USD) that perform the SAME in games. I can't comment on the "Titan Ultra" but it's likely going to be the same sort of situation (or worse).

3) G-SYNC:
Considering how much money you're considering spending, I suggest looking into G-Sync. I do NOT recommend investing in 4K at this time, and no a single DisplayPort cable won't work. There are 2560x1440, 27" G-Sync monitors coming that look awesome. G-Sync is basically about running games a lot SMOOTHER but you can Google that.

4) 8ms response:
That's just about how long it takes each pixel to change colour to prevent things like ghosting. 8ms is considered the highest you'd want by many people but I don't think the screen resolution makes much difference.

5) W7 Genuine: You might want to Google that, or simply contact Microsoft. There's a lot of info on that which is easy to find.

photonboy · Jan 27, 2014

NVidia G-Sync:
Look into 27", 2560x1440 G-Sync monitors. (first one is non-IPS but 120/144Hz I believe. May wish IPS)

Links:
1) http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync (watch the VIDEO with Tom Peterson explaining this)

2) http://www.anandtech.com/show/7582/nvidia-gsync-review

3) http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-rog-swift-monitor-g-sync,25755.html

My advice would be to build around a screen like this and use a good INTEL CPU (i7-4670K for example) and a single GTX780 Ti (good EVGA ACX cooler or similar).

The G-Sync monitor above is 120Hz, however G-Sync can make a game very smooth at even 40FPS so don't go above 60FPS if you have to turn down any quality settings.

Personally, I'd rather have a 60Hz (60FPS max) IPS version.

Christopher Gonzalez · Jan 27, 2014

photonboy :

Wow thanks for the advice... I've already actually built a PC (specs in my signature). I've considered 1440p, but I really want to capture video and upload it to YouTube (using Shadowplay) and I thing 1440p video won't scale down to the more mainstream 1080p as well as 4k, since with 4k, you can just count every 4 pixels at 4k as one pixel in 1080p.

I've heard about G-Sync and, if I choose 4k, will definitely choose a monitor that supports it. Then I could get 30 FPS at 4k without looking super un-smooth.

I'm interested, why are you leaning so much towards 1440p? Does 4K really still have jagged lines? Maybe I could go with 1440p and just anti-alias any staircases out of the image. My only concern is that 1080p won't look as good on it. 4K is just 4 1080p panels crammed into one (I know it's technically 2 panels normally at some weird 8:9 resolution or something), so it can just scale 4:1. 1440p is 4 720p panels, which means that full screen 1080p won't line up perfectly with other pixels... I don't have much experience with high resolution panels, though, so I could be totally wrong.

Thanks for answering my other questions, too.

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