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Chaitanya Anand

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I have a Pentium 4 processor, 500GB hdd, (1gb ddr2 ram) x 2, gpu is of NVidia GeForce GT610 synergy edition 2gb ddr3..

Now I want to upgrade my processor too. I have heard of Intel 2.9 GHz LGA 1155 G2020 Processor, but some of my nearby repairer tells that maybe new processors won't work in old motherboards. Please Advise...:(
 
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Hi Chaitanya -
Would agree - a CPU upgrade is unlikely to get you benefits in line with your expectations.

If it feels like your performance has fallen way off, you may want to ensure that your disk is not on the verge of failing. Passmark has a great lilttle utility that is free for personal use. It can check the SMART diagnostics on your disk and let you know if you're nearing a cliff.
http://passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm

I had this problem with an older PC - didn't know what was going wrong until the disk crashed.

Hope this helps.
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that processor is not compatible with your motherboard, and the hardware support for your cpu+motherboard has been ended a while ago. you'll need a new processor, motherboard and ram if you want to upgrade. if your hdd has pata port instead of sata port, you might need an hdd with sata port.
 
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Hi Chaitanya -

Yes, it's a MOBO (motherboard) thing. The CPU is defined to fit a particular "Socket," and the MOBO has to have a bios that will recognize the new CPU.

I doubt that your MOBO will support an 1155 CPU.

If you can tell us more about your current machine - make and model, mobo type, etc., we might be able to make a recommendation, and you might be able to find an older, used or refurbished CPU that would give you a little bit of boost.

However, depending on what you're trying to accomplish, you might be better served by building a new machine.

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OK....here you asked for it, i downloaded cpu-z software to scan everything......its as follows:

PROCESSOR

Name: Intel Pentium D 925
Package: 775 LGA
Technology: 65nm
Core Voltage: 1.184 V
Model, ext. Model: 6
Family, ext. Family: F
Instructions: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
Specification: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz

but something odd i saw....
Cores: 2
Threads: 2
it raises a question....is pentium 4 dual core?

MAINBOARD(Motherboard)

Manufacturer: ECS
Model: Livermore 1.0
Chipset: Intel i945G
Graphic Interface Version: PCI-Express
Link Width: x16
Max. Supported: x16

.If you need to know anything else let me know,and that's what i have...please advise now...
 
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you are your full specifications, i.e. motherboard, power supply, case etc.
what will you be using your pc for?

yes, the p4 you own is a dual core processor compatible with lga775 socket. the pentium 2020 you mentioned earlier is also a dual core, there might not be much of performance improvement for general tasks. however, the pentium 2020 has no pins, it fits on lga1155 socket (the socket has pin-outs). your processor and pentium 2020 are different in design. i'd suggest at least an amd apu or fx6300 as upgrades - both those will require new motherboard and ram. as for intel, core i3 a minimum, core i5 would be better. it depends on how much money you want to spend on upgrades.

edit: just noticed your edits, is your pc an HP prebuilt pc? what model number?

edit2: if it is indeed an hp prebuilt pc, here are the upgrade options by hp
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c00910113
 
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Hi -

Awesome - this tells you lots of good info.

1. You have a socket socket 775, so any CPU upgrade will have to be compatible with this.

2. Type "Pentium D" into Google (or your favorite search engine) and you'll find that good references for this line of processor, including this Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_D
2.1 Your're currently running at 3.0 GHz. From the Wikipedia article, you'll see that the Pentium D has versions running up to 3.6 GHz.
2.2 Yes, this is a dual-core processor, but based on an older architecture.

3. You're currently running at 3.0 Ghz. If you go to Amazon and type in "Pentium D" you'll see a number of second-hand processors up to the 3.6 GHz model on sale from second-hand vendors.

So this is all very interesting, but what does it mean? Well, you've got a little bit of room to upgrade (3GHz to 3.6) for a slight improvement in CPU, but overall, this is a very old PC. Your MOBO probably supports a maximum of 2GB may or may not have a SATA-1 interface (SATA-3 is current) and likely only supports the older/slower PCIe interfaces.

What is it that you want to do, what are you trying to accomplish with this upgrade? It may be a case of "you can't get there from here."

FYI, I have a similar old machine. I use it primarily as a backup server for the house and a few older games that I just can't live without. But that's about it.

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This is a home desktop usually for home use(i.e. Online surfing, movies, songs, photos, work, etc.). Moreover I'm a decent gamer as I have bought the Nvidia Graphic Card recently online almost two months ago for purpose...

Yeah, this was a prebuilt Compaq Desktop I bought maybe in 2007.
I surfed through the links you mentioned....

The specifications of my motherboard were much familiar to those on the HP motherboard specs link you gave.
I went to the "Processor upgrade information" section and discovered much better processors as follows:
-Pentium D (Presler) up to 960 (3.6 GHz)
-Pentium 4 (Cedar Mill) up to 661 (3.6 GHz)
-Celeron D (Cedar Mill) up to 365 (3.6 GHz)
-Celeron D (Prescott) up to 355 (3.33GHz)

I need a processor among these....
 
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in my opinion, the pc is over 6 years old. not worth spending your money on it. a new pc with amd a10 7850k or 7700k apu with a55/78 chipset motherboard and 4/8GB ddr3 ram will be better. or an intel core i3 processor with h81 or b85chipset motherboard with 4/8GB ddr3 ram. either amd or intel combo with a corsair vs450 or cx500M or antec hcg 400w power supply.
 
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ah. that's unfortunate. because getting a new dual core cpu with more clockrate won't improve performance with anything that uses more than 2 cores (which are new games, and video conversion programs). if you can get by using the pentium 4, stick with it until you have enough funds for a full pc.
 
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Hi Chaitanya -
Would agree - a CPU upgrade is unlikely to get you benefits in line with your expectations.

If it feels like your performance has fallen way off, you may want to ensure that your disk is not on the verge of failing. Passmark has a great lilttle utility that is free for personal use. It can check the SMART diagnostics on your disk and let you know if you're nearing a cliff.
http://passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm

I had this problem with an older PC - didn't know what was going wrong until the disk crashed.

Hope this helps.
 
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