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Is my power supply going bad? Please, need help and fast.

Hey there everyone.

I have a practically NEW system at this point.
December 28th, new motherboard, ram, CPU
This week, new WD HDD

The ONLY thing now that is not "new" is the power supply which I admit I bought "new" second hand, and this is what I am asking about.

Today during a render in adobe premiere pro the system locked up and windows 7 would not restart.

I have a copy of windows 8 that I tried, and after installing that things seemed okay.
except.

1. mystery restart for NO REASON after the first boot.
2. My USB powered HDD starts not working, i can hear the platters clicking (like only one USB was plugged in and not enough power)|
3. Every time I would try and render in premiere pro the system would reboot, and I am getting errors that read WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR
Then some strange NTFS error... but the system ALWAYS reboots okay into windows 8
4. Prime95 lasts all of 30 seconds before death.

now, asus AI suite was giving me errors for SOMETHING that i could not see.. it would give an error form briefly and then dissapear.

I assumed this was some of the false errors asus AI suite has a tendency to give.

Now I wonder if this is a power supply thing. does it sound like this to you?
Please do chime in.
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  1. Clearly sounds like a PSU issue, if you wanted to you could run the OCCT PSU test or I think speed fan is another one. You could also manually test the voltages with a power tester.

    Is there anyway you can grab a spare PSU to test?
  2. minerva330 said:
    Clearly sounds like a PSU issue, if you wanted to you could run the OCCT PSU test or I think speed fan is another one. You could also manually test the voltages with a power tester.

    Is there anyway you can grab a spare PSU to test?


    No, unfortunately really not. My old PSU was barely capable to run the Geforce 650 and a core2duo so it surely wont do much for this:

    AMD FX 8350
    Geforce GTX 650 Ti
    8 gb DDR3 1600mhz ram.

    i will just have to get to frys tomorrow. PSU is returnable so worst case scenario i could bring it back. I cannot believe this is happening to me NOW when I have jobs that are dependent on this PC to do with video.
  3. minerva330 said:
    Clearly sounds like a PSU issue, if you wanted to you could run the OCCT PSU test or I think speed fan is another one. You could also manually test the voltages with a power tester.

    Is there anyway you can grab a spare PSU to test?


    last dumb question, but I would hate to think that if I installed a new 1tb drive and that is drawing extra power that could be it. I took an old drive OUT and put the new drive IN.

    I will try and unplug my old slow sata and see if that helps with the reboots.
    like i said, the AI suite giving me a headache, I installed HWmonitor but saw NOTHING strange.

    however i just thought of this...

    When I first stress tested with prime95, i got dead cpu cores... I then upped the voltage in ai suite by whatever the smallest steps were, after three steps it was fine and steady.

    that make this sound more power related?
  4. Advise. the one thing u only buy new and branded is the psu.
  5. What is the PSU you have now? The PSU is the most IMPORTANT part of a PC. By a mile. If it were to fail completely it could easily ruin every single component in your computer. Replace it ASAP with a unit from Antec, XFX, Corsair (notCX), Seasonic.
  6. It still sounds like the PSU, I am not sure what brand you got but not all are created equal. Some may claim a rating of say 550 but have never been properly rated.

    seasonic, corsair and antec are the holy-trinity, the ones with the highest rep
  7. minerva330 said:
    It still sounds like the PSU, I am not sure what brand you got but not all are created equal. Some may claim a rating of say 550 but have never been properly rated.

    seasonic, corsair and antec are the holy-trinity, the ones with the highest rep


    Also XFX, they are MUCH better than some Corsair units. The CX line specifically is average at best. XFX units are actually re-branded Seasonic PSUs.
  8. tiny voices said:
    What is the PSU you have now? The PSU is the most IMPORTANT part of a PC. By a mile. If it were to fail completely it could easily ruin every single component in your computer. Replace it ASAP with a unit from Antec, XFX, Corsair (notCX), Seasonic.


    currently it is a seasonic. When I saw "new" used it was obviously never installed, all of the original leads were still shrink wrapped etc but then again that means nothing. for all I know it was thrown around, submerged partially, etc.

    seasonic 80 plus, SS-500HM

    yes. i am dumb.
  9. That is actually a VERY high quality and well regarded PSU.
  10. looking back perhaps there was some different sounding noises coming from the computer the past few days. super faint and impossible to hear unless i was really close and what have you.

    regardless, i have about 350 watt worth of stuff in there, but the PSU could be damaged. i will replace it tomorrow.
  11. 500w is more than enough for that computer.

    What is the CPU temps just for laughs?
  12. tiny voices said:
    That is actually a VERY high quality and well regarded PSU.


    hence why finding it for $10 made me freak out.
    I looked it up on newegg and it got great reviews, but was obviously not available.
    i have no idea what happened to it before it ended up there.

    should i attempt to run ai suite and let it auto regulate the power? would that even MATTER?
  13. If you bought that PSU for $10 it definitely has problems. It was $125 new. It is also old so it should be replaced anyway.
  14. $10 did you buy out of the back of van
  15. tiny voices said:
    500w is more than enough for that computer.

    What is the CPU temps just for laughs?


    max at 100% usage under prime95 or handbrake = 67C
    idle = 10C
    average = 15-28c
  16. minerva330 said:
    $10 did you buy out of the back of van


    no, there are some amazing goodwill stores in las vegas. especially after the economy melted down.
  17. Your CPU is overheating. The MAX CPU temps for that CPU is 61.1C and the max socket temp is 70c. At 67c that CPU will begin to throttle.
  18. tiny voices said:
    Your CPU is overheating. The MAX CPU temps for that CPU is 61.1C and the max socket temp is 70c. At 67c that CPU will begin to throttle.


    wait. i marked that as best answer, dunno if i should have.
    ive been using it that way for a MONTH! wtf can i actually do about this. i am using a massive cooler, an ETS-T40

    also that is the coretemp temperature. so i understand the tjmax is different than the rated temps? i guess i was way wrong
  19. If you are at stock clocks and have an aftermarket cooler, something is wrong. Did you CORRECTLY apply thermal paste?

    Yes, tjMAX is the MAX temp it should never get to. What does it actually get to?
  20. tiny voices said:
    If you are at stock clocks and have an aftermarket cooler, something is wrong. Did you CORRECTLY apply thermal paste?

    Yes, tjMAX is the MAX temp it should never get to. What does it actually get to?


    yes. correctly.
    and also, this never happened under windows 7.
    my windows 7 problems manifested after i removed a HDD i had a lot of stuff installed to. the HDD started to fail so i replaced the drive.

    at that point, I got a lockup in 7 and decided to try 8.1 finally.
    now all of this.

    i am close to going back to windows 7 as I never ever had a random reboot on windows 7.
    see, i run a video render every single day. never a problem.

    i will get new thermal paste tomorrow, clean it and see if that helps.
  21. MORE CRAZY NUTTINESS

    i took the fan off the heatsink. i had it installed in technically the wrong place, because ot was interfering with ram. i was told to turn it around and i finally did that.

    so i am running prime95 and it didnt die immediately like it did before at least. will try and render in premiere now.
  22. Best answer
    Yeah, your CPU was overheating. What heatsink are you using?
  23. HOLY MAN. WOW. CANNOT BELIEVE THIS.
    these are the temps during a render in adobe premiere pro
    the render is going FASTER and less cpu usage.

    I WAS SUFFOCATING MY CPU.



    i am using this
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214023

    i am really not an unintelligent person. i really research everything but i screwed up this big time.

    thank you so so so so much for taking your time and troubleshooting this with me.
    i have been online since like 1996 and you seldom get so much good help from people man. honestly.
  24. I am always glad to help! From the start I didn't think this was a PSU issue.
  25. tiny voices said:
    I am always glad to help! From the start I didn't think this was a PSU issue.


    so, am running prime95.
    i will let it run overnight.

    my temps in AI suite for the CPU read 51c (for CPU) and 31C (motherboard) after the first 5 minutes, and coretemp does not get past 38 degrees.

    Before, the aisuite would flash that cpu was above 65 C and i assumed it was giving me a tjmax. i guess I am right to say it was NOT the tjmax.
    Coretemp gave me the 65-67 reading and that was probably going to KILL my pc.

    So another few minutes and ai suite reading 52c. Coretemp 38.

    are these okay ranges?
  26. Anything below 60c for that CPU is fine. 52C is great! I'm glad we could get this sorted out.

    You can disregard motherboard temps as they aren't a thing to be concerned with.
  27. Good catch tiny. I learned a lot from this troubleshoot. Thanks for the knowledge
  28. Always glad to help!
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