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Which laptop around $300-500 should I get? will a video editing program work?

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January 30, 2014 7:14:06 PM

This is sort of two questions in one.

I'm going to have to replace my laptop for school soon. I don't want to spend over $400, but if there is a laptop in the price range of $300-500 that could handle Premiere Pro (or some alternative program like it....I would only able to do simple videos, else I'd use a build) without skipping I'd want that. I doubt there are any, though.

I had this a few years ago http://www.cnet.com/laptops/hp-envy-17-3070nr/4505-3121... and it skipped on playback of videos w/o cuts.


If there are none like that, what is the best laptop on the market at that price range?
January 30, 2014 7:42:18 PM

that tough. Just an mobile i7 Will run you about 600-800 (on a 17 in screen)
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January 30, 2014 8:14:14 PM

edit to my question- can I just buy a labtop (not any, of course) and upgrade the GPU and RAM?
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January 31, 2014 7:34:11 AM

The problem with this it would still cost you a pretty penny. Its not like you can buy a $200 old laptop and drop in the latest chipset.
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February 1, 2014 7:54:40 AM

kevin2 said:
edit to my question- can I just buy a labtop (not any, of course) and upgrade the GPU and RAM?


While it is technically possible to upgrade the GPU on some laptops, (SAGER's allow you to do this.) Finding a mobile GPU is very difficult. They don't sell them, you have to find a broken laptop and cannibalize it for it's video card.

Almost all laptops allow you to upgrade ram without too much trouble.

Why do you want to do video editing on a laptop rather than a desktop? You could build a decent video editing desktop for $400.00.

Your HP Envy shouldn't be having a big problem rendering video. (I think that's what you're saying about it skipping playback?) I suggest updating your video card drivers if it is.

Is that the only reason you're upgrading? It'd also probably sell for close to 300-600 dollars.

The specs on your current laptop are about the specs you'd get for your budget. It would be hard to find a better computer for $500.00

If your machine is broken, you'll probably have to buy something used with similar stats for that price range. This is what I use and I do light video editing work: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Gaming-Laptop-G53SX-15-Cor...

It isn't that much better than your envy.

A new machine with the latest i7m & integrated graphics will be able to handle premier pretty well. You don't need a graphics card to do video editing. I know people who do video editing on older integrated graphics and it gets the job done.
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March 22, 2014 12:17:41 AM

I did build a fantastic rig that I had to end up selling in order to afford school.


Of course I don't want to use a cheap labtop to edit video. I just need to get a new labtop for school and was hoping it'd also be cabable of some video editing as a plus


im getting exhausted as I type this and it is probably incoherent, but tomorrow I plan on posting a question on how to get the best labtop for dragon naturally speaking home 12 since I had a stroke and it's a pain to type out all my notes....cya.



nno I sold the Eny years ago as I was told the GPU and/or CPu were weak.
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March 22, 2014 4:11:07 PM

Glad you're feeling better. Remind me again what is your budget? and how large of a screen are you looking to work with?
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March 23, 2014 12:00:22 AM

down to a 12-inch screen, I guess.

I'd say up to $6-700, but I'd prefer not to go over $500.

The recommended system requirements Dragon Naturally Speaking lists are bare minimums, and a little research claimed instead I should go for:

at least a 2.2 GHz Intel dual core or equivalent AMD processor, 2MB L2 cache, at least 4GB RAM and a 7200 RPM hard drive.

the other day I purchased a laptop from Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-15-6-laptop-4gb-memory...) because my older one failed to boot at one point, but I plan on returning it ASAP. It's slow and I don't think it'll run dragon. plus I know I could get a better deal somewhere..
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March 23, 2014 10:16:04 AM

hmm..I've considered that one. where is the best place to purchase it..amazon or straight from Lenovo?
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March 30, 2014 10:04:55 PM

"Get it, get a little money together later and throw in a Samsung 840 Evo and a Dual Channel RAM Kit and it will be way, way faster."

fast enough (with those additions) to run Premiere Pro? how about before?
or I just read about Lightworks...
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March 31, 2014 7:06:15 PM

check out the protection plans here from Lenovo's website

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/essential/g-series...|se|google|387081997|G510|IIP_NE_Essential+G+Series|65105984&ef_id=UzonAQAABHMMpDDo:20140401025624:s

or the protection plans here, from the amazon link you provided me

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-15-6-Inch-Laptop-5...

Which of these plans mean regardless of what happens, incidentally or whatever, it would get repaired/replaced..and of those, which is the best value?

I'm returning the ASUS I acquired from Best Buy within two days. It's awfully slow.
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April 1, 2014 5:55:04 AM

Can the 510's CPU be replaced with an i7 down the line?
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April 1, 2014 9:07:29 PM

thank you for all your help.

this is irrelevant, but do you see computers and/or laptops that can flawlessly handle programs such as Premiere Pro affordable within the next decade?

for instance, I had an i7 3930k 32gb ram raid 0 hdd's etc home build...do you think a product of that caliber will be available at stores likes Best Buy marketed towards budget-conscious consumers within the next decade?
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April 8, 2014 4:11:43 PM

Construkt said:
kevin2 said:
"Get it, get a little money together later and throw in a Samsung 840 Evo and a Dual Channel RAM Kit and it will be way, way faster."

fast enough (with those additions) to run Premiere Pro? how about before?
or I just read about Lightworks...


Your options are pretty limited. No matter what, this is the best laptop within your budget.

The upgrades will just speed up your programs. You should be okay with it as it is, but the slow hard drive is going to be a drag for you. The SSD is definitely going to be a huge boost for what you're doing.


I can't seem to find an Ideapad G510 in crucial.com's memory advisor.
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April 8, 2014 5:34:00 PM

Construkt said:
If you're looking for RAM upgrades for the G510, you can get this 8GB stick from Amazon.

I emailed crucial anyway.

is it identical to the 1 stick currently installed? 12gb RAM would be great:love:  or would I have to remove it?

I'm buying a 120gb 840 evo as we speak. Why should I need more than 120gb?

Do you think I should use the SSD as the primary drive instead of this 5400RPM HDD? This PC's sort of slow. I'd follow these instructions: http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid...
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April 8, 2014 5:44:47 PM

  • isn't http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-15-6-Inch-Laptop-5... in the essential series, not the IdeaPad series?

    Apparently, the G-series are Essential.

    ahhhhh, this is why in using Crucial's memory advisor tool the G510 falls under Essential/Value line. What a moronic email I sent them.
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    April 8, 2014 5:51:30 PM

    Construkt said:
    You shouldn't have to remove it. You could throw it in there, or get 2 and run 16GB dual channel.

    Crucial will just give you a list of ones that are also compatible. They won't tell you what is currently in it.

    Yes the SSD I linked earlier would be the best choice and it comes with cloning software. Just get an external enclosure, clone it, then swap the HDD for the SSD and put the HDD in the enclosure and you have a laptop with an SSD primary drive and a nice external hard drive.


    hmm...I always thought the RAM sticks had to be identical.

    That sounds easier than the directions on lifehacker, but how much does an enclosure cost? what is the benefit of not having it internal? unless this D drive business is a HDD in the second bay.
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    April 8, 2014 6:13:00 PM

    Construkt said:
    Yeah you don't need the coverage, haha. That's a strange thing to cover.


    should I get the 2 year warranty on the 8 gig stick you recommended? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HSOGQSQ/ref=as_li_s...

    is it worth it?

    or is there a better stick that I can use my prime membership on


    already ordered the ssd and enclosure and they'll be here Thursday.
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    April 8, 2014 6:22:26 PM

    Construkt said:
    I don't buy warranties on anything but laptops themselves. If the RAM doesn't work, return it. No need to get a warranty. I've never had RAM die.


    hesitant to hit "place order" on the ram. unless you're positive there are no prime-eligible alternatives of identical quality.
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    April 8, 2014 6:43:03 PM

    Construkt said:
    The G510 is the highest quality and fastest machine in the price range. I'm positive. I tell everyone I know to get one who wants a laptop in that price range.


    I already have it. I meant the stick.
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    April 8, 2014 6:54:22 PM

    IE also randomly shut off once, I'm pretty sure.

    I wish I knew how to get the performance scores in 8 like I could in 7.

    edit- I just did. You have to do some lame stuff first.

    processor: 7.4
    memory (RAM) 5.9
    Graphics: 4.7
    Gaming Graphics: 5.1
    Primary Hard Disk: 5.9
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    April 8, 2014 9:34:21 PM

    It seems I can buy this same laptop directly from Lenovo with twice the RAM and HDD space for $16.13 more. My only remaining concern would be the protection plan. Though both 2 year accidental damage protection plans, I have to be sure Lenovo’s plan protects me from cracked screens. At zdnet it says “Lenovo defines its ADC warranty coverage as the following:
    "Accidental drops, spills, bumps, and structural failures incurred under normal operating conditions or handling, electrical surges, and damage to the integrated LCD screen."

    But Lenovo’s website says ADP: Lenovo's Accidental Damage Protection protects your investment from operational or structural damage due to common accidents like:
    • • Drops
    • • Spills
    • • Electrical surges
    • • Failure of the integrated screen

    What constitutes “failure of the integrated screen?” I don’t interpret that as anything more than dead pixels or a failure to turn on, not actual damage to the screen.
    Assuming it does, it is totally worth it for me to return my current laptop and wait upwards of a couple of weeks for this one.
    It could actually indeed still be worth it if that isn’t covered.

    Should have done my homework, as amazon only offers full refunds "provided the item is still unopened and in its original condition."

    As an economics student, I realize the opportunity cost of that potential unproductive time. The costs outweigh the small benefits I could have received.

    But as a human being coming to terms with the fact I missed out on a potential $100 or so in hardware, I am going to go sob uncontrollably in the corner.




    At least until my SSD arrives....
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    April 9, 2014 4:42:13 PM

    I'm not going to be able to render to the 5400rpm drive (the one currently in the system that I'm replacing with the SSD.) I want to sell that G Drive I showed you above to make up some of this cash, but I need a 7200rpm drive to render to. but I don't think I can use that as the drive for storage as well...this is assuming I don't want to have the SSD, which will be my primary drive, reading and writing at the same time.

    I had a drive for the "OS+Premiere"
    RAID 0 2 HDD's "Source"
    RAID 0 2 HDD's "Render"

    and I'd store the finished projects externally on the G Drive.


    But I also can't afford Premiere Pro at the moment, and don't know whether or not less costly and less (for lack of a more descriptive term) intense NLE's require such a disk setup...

    -use the SSD for the OS+Programs
    -Sell the 5400rpm HDD I'm pulling out
    -Sell that G Drive
    -buy 2 7200rpm HDD's (use one externally and the other will replace the optical drive)

    idk how to take out the optical drive though...how much it costs.

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    April 9, 2014 6:54:53 PM

    Construkt said:
    kevin2 said:
    I'm not going to be able to render to the 5400rpm drive (the one currently in the system that I'm replacing with the SSD.) I want to sell that G Drive I showed you above to make up some of this cash, but I need a 7200rpm drive to render to. but I don't think I can use that as the drive for storage as well...this is assuming I don't want to have the SSD, which will be my primary drive, reading and writing at the same time.

    I had a drive for the "OS+Premiere"
    RAID 0 2 HDD's "Source"
    RAID 0 2 HDD's "Render"

    and I'd store the finished projects externally on the G Drive.


    But I also can't afford Premiere Pro at the moment, and don't know whether or not less costly and less (for lack of a more descriptive term) intense NLE's require such a disk setup...

    -use the SSD for the OS+Programs
    -Sell the 5400rpm HDD I'm pulling out
    -Sell that G Drive
    -buy 2 7200rpm HDD's (use one externally and the other will replace the optical drive)

    idk how to take out the optical drive though...how much it costs.



    Shouldn't be too difficult to remove the optical drive, although you would need to dismantle the bottom of the laptop to do so. Usually removing it is what I'd suggest.


    Minutes ago I received this email from amazon

    "
    Hello,

    I'm sorry about the problem you had with your "Lenovo IdeaPad G510 15.6-Inch Laptop (59406709) Black". This usually doesn't happen.

    It seems like the item is defective.

    I've checked your order and see the item was ordered from Asus and Panasonic Specialists, a seller on our website. Because seller's inventory is constantly changing, we can't replace items sold by them that are Fulfilled by Amazon.

    Please understand my limitation.

    At this time, kindly follow this link to print a return mailing label and get instructions for returning the defective item for a full refund:

    [redacted]

    When you return the item, follow the instructions listed on the mailing label page. If you don't have a printer, write back using the following link:

    [redacted]

    Once the carrier has received your return package, it can take up to two weeks for us to receive and process your return.

    Kindly return the original item within 30 days. If we don't receive the return, we'll charge you for the cost of the item.

    However if you still want the item, to compensate you for the inconvenience I request you to please place an order for this item with One Day shipping and let us know the order number(item should be ships and sold by Amazon.com OR fulfilled by Amazon.com), we'll remove the shipping charges from your order and ship the order free of cost without any shipping charges.

    I hope this solution works! We look forward to seeing you again soon.



    Best regards,
    Vimalraj R.


    "
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    April 9, 2014 7:04:49 PM

    indeed I did. with the YouTube videos and all. and my response was "Thank you for your timely response; that is admirable from a large corporation.



    When will I receive the refund?

    What will happen with the squaretrade protection plan that came with the product?

    I know it's transferable, but if I ordered this same laptop from Lenovo's website, could I transfer it to cover that product?

    "

    an answer is probably in the links provided by them, but I am exhausted.
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    April 9, 2014 7:08:56 PM

    You saw the experience numbers I posted, yes?
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    April 9, 2014 7:16:08 PM

    Construkt said:
    Yeah, it's a budget laptop. It's not high end by any means, but it does a lot for its price range.

    Unfortunate that you had issues with it :(  I've seen a lot of people be really happy with them.


    it's still the best machine to get and apply said upgrades to, yes?

    from what I've seen that was a good CPU score.

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    April 23, 2014 11:07:21 AM

    Today, Construkt , is judgement day. I received the new G510 and have an 840 evo and a portable HDD enclosure (the links you sent me).
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    May 1, 2014 2:15:34 AM

    Construkt said:
    Well I hope it all comes out to expected performance. It really carries the best specs for the price and the price was definitely a limiting factor, haha.


    WEI for the g510 I returned was

    processor: 7.4
    memory (RAM) 5.9
    Graphics: 4.7
    Gaming Graphics: 5.1
    Primary Hard Disk: 5.9

    new g510 WEI (with 8 vs 4GB of RAM, ze 840 EVO for the main drive, and the 5400rpm in an external enclosure)

    processor: 7.4
    memory (RAM) 7.6
    Graphics: 5.7
    Gaming Graphics: 5.5
    Primary Hard Disk: 5.9

    Could you explain these differences; most importantly, the identical 'Primary Hard Disk' score?

    Update: I performed it again hours later, this time with the program Winaero WEI tool and got all the same scores but now the Primary Hard Disk scored an 8.1.


    I was trying to run powerdirector and it kept not responding so I just uninstalled it...I miss my desktop...
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