i7 4770k help!

angel_grin

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hi guys my system is:
CPU: i7 4770k
MB: Asrock Z87e-itx
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x8gb 1600
PSU: Silverstone 450 80+ Gold

so my problem is why does CPU-Z read my cpu speed as 3.9ghz but i didn't even overclock yet?
also my RAM is read as 1333 but i have 1600 ram.

sorry its a new system and im new to overclocking and stuff.

btw, i already tried to clear cmos by using the cmos clear button on the mother board. but its still the same.

thanks!
 
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I strongly urge you to use the BIOS when overclocking. However, do not just go changing everything. Google guides for your motherboard and cpu combination. You will find those far more helpful. I'll see what I can find for you. But again, the best way to learn is to have the right equipment first, try seeing what works in a slow and steady methodical fashion. You are being smart though asking questions ahead of time. That's what I did when I first got started. Also, I feel like intel should pay me for this by how often I'm recommending it but if you want the piece of mind I went ahead and purchased the intel warranty for overclocking. For $25.00 or so you have piece of mind that you are covered. Without this you are not even...
with your ram speed the motherboard reads the spd info and sets the ram speed from the default spd info. most 1600 and faster ram the 1600 speed in the spd is under what called the xmp profile. to read the xmp profile you have to turn in on under bios dram speed. in the bios make sure yoor mb set to standard mode. mb like asus have standard and performance mode. the performance mode is there version of over clocking. also check the cpu voltage and core clock. make sure there set to standard or auto.
 

angel_grin

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@zink1701 so this is just normal? its always running around 3.6-3.9ghz. will this have a problem with heat or something?

@JOHNN93 yep i left it disabled. i dunno whats it for so i dont mess around with the settings just yet im still reading up tutorials and stuff.

@smorizio ok thanks its all on standard and auto. but i quite dont understand what you have explained sorry. my question is, is it normal that my ram reads as 1333 not 1600? or is there something wrong? thanks!
 

JOHNN93

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when you go in the bios it should say 3.5 if it says 3.9 you have some type of overclock.
intel xmp overclocks the ram but it overclocks the cpu as well.when i did it my system was unstable i do not recomend it.as smorizio said before there is a sdp that your motherboard reads and sets the ram to what ever the spd has.your ram should be running at 1333 cl9 right now to get it to run 1600 mhz you will need to set the timings manualy to cl10 .go to the memory manufacture and download the data shete to confirm this.or tell us the model to sind it and asist you.
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-12800cl10d-16gbxl
is this the memory?
if you go to the specification section you will see down some where where it says spd
to run it at the tested tou will need to manualy insert the timings provided in the specification section.
i can not find any downloadable content.
 

jnewegger23

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I have an i7-3770k. As zink1701 said this is the normal turbo. My cpu does the same exact thing. It is normal for sandy, ivy, haswell and many other cpus out there. You will also see it get low like 1ghz or even ~900mhz at idle; this is the cpu being efficient when at rest and going to turbo 3.9ghz when it's really needed. Completely normal! It is an awesome feature. Also, as smorizio stated, simply enabling xmp in bios can often get your ram running at the designed speeds. However, Johnn93 is also correct that you may need to do manual timing adjustments and if you're not sure about that, do realize that having your ram off at all can cause a high frequency of bsod (blue screens of death) which isn't the end of the world but if you're stressing over the turbo feature you may get really stressed dealing with that too so be methodical about it and realize it may be a possibility. I'm sure you're more than reasonably intelligent but when you're new I know a lot of things can seem more stressful than they really are but it's good you take it seriously so that you don't damage anything as your learning. You've got a decent setup; now go enjoy it!

Thanks,

Justin S.
 

angel_grin

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@JOHN93 sorry for the late response i re-partitioned my hard drive didn't know it would take a long time. anyway i cant acces the link you gave but this is my ram in newegg.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568

also what overclocking software is best to use? Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility or the asrock A-Tuning? or its best to use the UEFI?

thanks!

@ jnewegger23 thanks for sharing. but even though i'm just browsing on chrome it still hovering around that 3.6-3.8ghz? is it normal while doing just basic stuff? thanks for understaning my situation hehe. i'm a little worried that theres something wrong and i havent even started tweaking stuff. lol so what can you recommend me to do? because i want to unervolt if its possible then. overclock? or i can just do one?

@all i think i have read somewhere before to that under volting the cpu can help lower temps? my average is at 45C, using stock cooler. and my case is the silverstone ft03-mini.
 

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Yeah, that's normal. How hot is your cpu getting? Also, no I recommend not overclocking with the stock cooler; that can get very bad. The turbo on default settings should not be an issue. With regard to underclocking, if you undervolt be leary that you can cause instability as the cpu may "starve" if it doesn't get sufficient voltage for a given task causing crashes. Not that bad of an issue but again a possibility. For not too much you can get a decent aftermarket cooler; I'd do that asap. It will get you much lower temps on stock settings thus not compromising the point of having bought an i7-4770k and giving you the overhead clearance to push it when you are confident enough to get into more serious overclocking. In the mean time if you have time to play around and try undervolting and underclocking you'll learn something there too but as you may be into performance I'm guessing you won't want to waste too much of your time in that direction. It'll be good to learn for say an htpc to keep it very silent. But I find my gaming rig to be pretty sweet and quiet as well so I don't think that's as necessary as getting that aftermarket cooler. Just my 2cents!
 

angel_grin

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ok thanks jnewegger23, ok actually im planning on getting some LCLC is that right? the all in one water cooler. before i try doing overclock now im just studying and getting much information as i can before doing some actual stuff.. and i dunno which is the best way to overclock? through bios or through tuning utilities like the Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility?
 

jnewegger23

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I strongly urge you to use the BIOS when overclocking. However, do not just go changing everything. Google guides for your motherboard and cpu combination. You will find those far more helpful. I'll see what I can find for you. But again, the best way to learn is to have the right equipment first, try seeing what works in a slow and steady methodical fashion. You are being smart though asking questions ahead of time. That's what I did when I first got started. Also, I feel like intel should pay me for this by how often I'm recommending it but if you want the piece of mind I went ahead and purchased the intel warranty for overclocking. For $25.00 or so you have piece of mind that you are covered. Without this you are not even though oc'ing seems so common (turbo boost is a factory setting so no need to worry about that in case you did).

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

Keep in mind that you aren't covered till 30 days AFTER you purchase this warranty. So, if you are considering this I'd get it now so by the time you are overclocking you're covered! I'd tread lightly before then unless you are very methodical and careful not to damage anything without it. I am but I still bought it. To me what's $25.00 when you are spending 1,2 or 3k on your rig? To me it was worth the peace of mind but I get why someone would want to skimp here; just not me though! Who hasn't wasted more than $25.00 in their lifetime? If you haven't, get your butt to vegas or something and start having more fun!

Anyhow, I found this youtube vides and it will probably be a good starting point for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wF2S0GAGas

I am not a fan of auto settings and llc (load line calibration) as it tends to overheat your system (marginally) and create voltage deficiets at times for higher oc's when not being taxed. However, like they say in the video it's a decent starting point and I did utilize those methods when I first started as well. It won't damage anything but you may hang, crash, or get some bsods but that is par for the course when finding your sweet spot for your most stable oc. Also, their temps are about average (hit high 70s) and as you keep learning (I'll try to find better guides but you may just have to sift through some forums specific to your board; I'd show you what I've used by I have a different board, you'll probably find something before I do) you'll be more and more excited at getting closer to that optimal setting that has your system flying at pretty cool temps! Again, I don't agree with everything these guys are doing but it's not the worst way to start; pretty decent.

You'll find yourself getting anxious to try stuff but don't without the right cooler first! Some people claim great temps with just aftermarket air coolers. I have the Corsair H80i which is a simple closed system liquid cooling system and corsair link (when it works right; windows 8.1 issues but there are easy enough workarounds) gives you some great control from manipulating the LED to fan alerts and all kinds of different settings. If I were to do it again though I'd recommend pushing for the h100i if you go in this direction. For the quietness and performance it sets the standard. If you are on a tighter budget you'll find some air solutions that seem to get comparable results but I haven't utilized those solutions so I won't discuss that much further.

I just googled your case; that is a compact case! It looks great and perfect for htpc but for gaming and all the recommendations I'm making it will be very challenging if it's possible at all to get most recommended aftermarket coolers in there! Airflow is a big part of oc'ing whether you go liquid or air. Htpc cases are designed to be compact and do not have the best airflow to begin with. I'm not sure what to recommend past upgrading your case at some point.
 
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