Build or buy used?

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Hi toms hardware, i am currently selling my laptop and i anticipate having $600 after the sale. I know it seems cheaper to build a gaming computer as opposed to buying one off of a prebuilt website, but it looks like if i played my cards right, i could get ALOT more for my money buying one off of craigslist then building my own. I saw one with a nvidia gtx 770 and an i7 processor selling for $675! Whereas if i built my own, i wouldnt be able to get anything more powerful than a r9 270x, and an fx-6300. What do you guys think?
 
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thats the same era as my own pc (hover over my avatar image if you care) though i'm using some more expensive components.

the i7-920 is starting to feel its age. if running at stock clocks (only 2.67ghz) it may be a bit of a bottleneck. since you have a x58 board, decent ram and an aftermarket cooler you should be able to overclock it a bit to help compensate.

the gpu is definitely a step up from what i have (he upgraded it somewhere along the line) and he also must have thrown in a ssd somewhere along the line (like i did). if he was using the same components from when he bought the pc i would say the price was a bit high however with a gtx770 and a ssd its not a terrible price. you will want to most likely add a hard drive since...
if you buy used you are correct that you can find a deal here or there.

however, you really need to watch out as well sometimes. it wouldnt be the first time i've seen a rather decent system and some low end time-bomb power supply thrown in there.

if you wanted brand new i would build your own instead of getting prebuilt.
however, if you arent opposed to looking into used you might get a bit more bang for your buck provided you look into what parts it has and that they arent terrible

the biggest issue would be the power supply. if it shows up any lower than tier 3 on this list i would replace it
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
 

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Case: NZXT lexa CS
Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe V2
Power Supply: Corsair TX850W (sli ready)
CPU: i7 920 D0 stepping
Ram: 6GB G.skill Trident 2000mhz
CPU cooling: Corsair H50 liquid
GPU: Asus Direct Cu II GTX 770
Hard-drive: Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB SSD

copied that straight from craigslist
 
thats the same era as my own pc (hover over my avatar image if you care) though i'm using some more expensive components.

the i7-920 is starting to feel its age. if running at stock clocks (only 2.67ghz) it may be a bit of a bottleneck. since you have a x58 board, decent ram and an aftermarket cooler you should be able to overclock it a bit to help compensate.

the gpu is definitely a step up from what i have (he upgraded it somewhere along the line) and he also must have thrown in a ssd somewhere along the line (like i did). if he was using the same components from when he bought the pc i would say the price was a bit high however with a gtx770 and a ssd its not a terrible price. you will want to most likely add a hard drive since 120gb is really small and you dont want to fill it past 80% capacity (meaning with 30gb windows install you're looking at only 66gb useable space which is tiny).

i do not play as many games now as i used to however it can certainly max out games like tera online and generally most other titles. i know it might struggle a bit in crysis 3 or battlefield 4 (but again a cpu overclock and a better video card like the one that system has woudl likely solve that). i'm generally happy with my i7-920 still though i will be overclocking to speed it up a bit now.


my thoughts?

its older however if you do a bit of overclocking it shouldnt be bad. its not really upgradeable though.

the best system you would get for the same price would likely be a fx-6300 and 270x as you stated in your first post. HOWEVER if you really watch prices or look around you may manage to snag a 8320. the benefit to getting a new system is that if you overclock the 8320 its compareable to an i5 and you can always throw in another 270x for crossfire a little down the road for some extra performance (or take advantage of mantle). oh and i'm going by $675 budget (the cost of that pc) i've seen the 8320 for $130 before

you could go either way. however since the amd system would be newer it might very well be worth looking at your build it new for $675 over looking at the used system.

which would give you better fps? likely the craigslist system once you o/c the cpu. all because of that gtx770 which is a few notches up from the 270x.

however... if you watch for rebates or manage to scrounge some cash from somewhere you could get a 280x for $350 which is on par or better than the 770. so for just a little more money you might be able to buy a new system which can compete on even ground if not better (as well as having mantle, usb3 support).

but... if you need to buy an operating system.... that cuts into the budget. it will cost you at least $79 (ebay price) for windows 7 64.

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just some thoughts for you to ponder.

personally i'd probably push a litle extra into a new build

though the old build would likely perform decent once you overclock it a bit.





 
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Thanks for your help, i am actually going to copy windows onto a disk from my old laptop before i sell it, and use that, so i wont have to buy a new os. I am pretty new to computer stuff, so i am definitely not going to be overclocking soon, and i am only 13 years old, so i can't put any more into the build. My plan at this point is to get the $600-700, go to frys, and just pick out everything at once. I know i won't be getting the best deals, but i feel like thats what would be best for me to do now. I hope to get at least the fx-6300, and if i can, i might go for a gtx 660ti boost or something like that.
 
you most likely wont get $600 for a laptop if you uninstall/wipe the os

also most laptops come with an oem copy of windows so unless you bought windows its likely tied to the laptop and needs to stay.

trying to keep it installed on the laptop, selling it off then trying to use the same product key on your new system is not going to work.

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it sounds like you will need windows. so need to budget for it

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i would suggest buying online. you will get a better deal than retail stores.

we can help put together a parts list for you for $700 if you want.

you might need to watch some sales though to try and get the best bang/buck.
 

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Ok, i didnt know it could be bound to the computer. Im not planning to get $600, i already have $150, im trying to get $450, and that incluses a copy of Microsoft office 2013 and fruity loops studio 9
 
this is for about $700
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2LrYq

keep in mind that the power supplies arent on sale anymore. just a bit ago you could ge the cx500m for $30 (saving $20) which could be used towards a fx-8320 when it goes on sale for $130-140 again. you could go with the asrock 970 board (saving $10) as well but i prefer to stick with asus. there are also cheaper cases but the cougar cases really arent bad for the low price.

if you cant get $700 and are stuck with $600 then you're most likely going to be stuck scraping bottom going with lower end parts like a fx-4xxx series, less ram, low end gpu, etcetera. there is a bit of wiggle room in the parts list (perhaps up to $40 depending on what sales are available and downtrading on a few non-key parts however any more than that and you're going to be forced to drop down to the next tier in performance.