Photo-editing/some gaming Build - About $1500

hspirik

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Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: About 1500 including OS, Keyboard & Mouse, Monitor. A little flexible but not much.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Adobe CC, AutoCad, Some gaming (Like the Sims, nothing crazy)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, Thinking something like a 27 inch - we have huge Macs at my school and prefer editing on them - won't be able to use them in a few months when I graduate

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Wherever they are cheapest I guess, I do have amazon Prime, and I like Newegg.

Location: Pittsburgh PA

Parts Preferences: Probably an Intel processor

Overclocking: Maybe?

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 is what I think the 27in monitors are

Additional Comments: Mostly need to edit photos, probably some Autocad drafting. Love the sims but can't run it on anything I own.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I am currently using my laptop (Asus N71jq). It is running really hot with a fan under it - and has really slowed down lately. I need something that can edit photos without all the lag im currently experiencing and will last me a while. I tried doing this myself on the Parts pickers but I just don't think I know enough to do it on my own.
 

hspirik

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Doesn't really matter, looking for the best performance - I have plenty of room for a case.
 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1262.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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this is pretty much the base of things, very little you need to change.

If wanting to change things around, i suggest:
-CPU cooler for better overclocks
-GPU(to a 780) for better performance(you do not really need this unless your monitor is over 1080p)
-Case is preference, i like the Arc midi which is designed for airflow. If silence is prefered, the Define R4 is a great choice. There are many more cases that i can say that i like and have experience with, just ask if you need to.
-Storage, if you really need more. I find 1TB enough for games and SSD for games that need to render a bit and OS.
-Ram up to 16GB, not really needed for a gaming rig but just something to mention.

Things i did not mention:
CPU: i5 is all you need for gaming, going to i7 is more for a gaming/workstation hybrid kind of build.
Motherboard:i find this board the best price to features/quality. It is really all you need.
PSU: 750W is enough for some OCing and adding in a second GPU(might want to upgrade to 850W if planning to go with the 780)
 

TheMohammadmo

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.97 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($91.05 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Inwin GRone White (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: SteelSeries APEX Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M95 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $1528.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Just a little bit over 1500. The problem with arnav build is that he doesnt have the monitor, mouse, and keyboard.
Benefits
-Better more quality psu,
-more high rated dvd drive, not that it really matters but you know
-A nice blue color scheme in the build
-More space because its a full tower, better airflow, and really quiet.
-You dont even need a 770. I have a 760 and I get 60 fps easy on cod. So you will probably get higher than 100fps on sims lol.
-The keyboard is a beauty especially the lights. A whole lot of customization is possible with that keyboard.
-The mouse is also really nice mouse with nice led lights and a great grip
 

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This will be better than all the i5 builds.
pros:
More threads might be suited well for your actions.
Better GPU.
Slightly higher frequency ram, which remove some rendering time and such.
Better cooling solution for the CPU
Better suited PSU.
Better case.

Cons:
Doesn't include SSD.
PSU not big enough for SLI/crossfire.


Note: I havent included a mouse or keyboard as I myself still use my logitech keyboard from ~2002, but I did leave $100 for it, so choose wisely-

My recommendations:
Save a couple of hundred bucks and get a i7 with a 780/770-280x

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.23 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VE278H 27.0" Monitor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1396.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 08:54 EST-0500)
 

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Since when does someone need a gtx 780 for Sims 3. Its not that heavy of a graphics game. THe cpu is better in my build, the psu really isnt that great quality because its OCZ. Sure mines is way to much power wattage but at least the company makes really good qualty psu. The really is no difference in ddr3 1600 and 1866. In most things the 1600 actually beats the 1866. My cpu is better http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670K-vs-AMD-FX-8320 My build includes an ssd. Your case isnt compatible with the motherboard because the case doesnt have front panel usb 3.0. My case is a full tower meaning way more room and it also has better cooling and most importantly it looks frikin amazing. The steelseries apex and corsair m95 are really good keyboard and mouse
 

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do yourself a favor and choose your own perphirals. get a quality mechanical keyboard and mouse of your choice(deathadder!) 2nd this is a GAMING rig why would you want the highest end gpu you can afford? If I had my way with this build it'd have a 780. but then considering she/he wants a mouse/keyboard/monitor a 770 is the most I could fit into it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($108.04 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1144.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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this is the monitor i'd go for(couldn't find this deal on pcpartpicker for some reason)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058UUR6E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

look no further, also a 24 inch display is going to give you the best image 1080p. 27 inch just stretches the pixels out to far and gives you a blurry image compared the to the 24.
 

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once you go mechanical you'll never go back. I personally use brown switches but I'd probably prefer the greens since it requires more actuation force and has more of a tactile bump(greens just weren't available at the time when I got my coolermaster stealth brown switches) check this guide out first before you make your decision

http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2012/12/an-introduction-to-cherry-mx-mechanical-switches/
 

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Since when does anyone need a gtx 770 or even 760 for sims 3.



truly your CPU is better for 90% of all kind of work, but for CAD and such which rely on integer(guess, makes must sense for me) instructions and such, whereof the fx 8320 is ahead of a i5.
My PSU is better for both builds...




Now there is so many things wrong with this.
First there is a difference, which might cut of a minute or two when rendering 30 minutes UHD. (example dont know 100%).
If the ram have the same latency, the 1600mz would never beat 1866mz, this is a fact.



You just provided a useless link?


Truly.




Not really sure if joking or not, but it's compatible as USB 3.0 is backward compatible.
Difference in room: HAF = 19.50" x 9.10" x 18.90"
Your case = 22.10" x 9.60" x 23.40"
That is not really what I want to call "way more room". And the look of it is something I would rather not discuss. (btw it doesn't have better cooling)



I left money over, so he, himself, could choose his own peripherals.
 

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First of all how is the cpu link useleses. It proves the statement about my cpu being better then yours. Also the usb 3.0 case not being compatible will make it harder for him to wire it differently when my case is just a simple plug in. Here is another link for the ram, look at it skip to around 40 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0L_KFKJYvg It proves that the 1600 and 1866 are very similar and in some cases the 1600 beats the 1866. YOUR PSU IS OCZ. Go to the first page of reviews on newegg and you will see most of them are less then 4 stars. Many people say doa, worked for a WHILE and then broke, etc.
 

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If you read my reply you would understand.


Please read my last reply, backwardcompatible, there arent any difference between the wiring.


Once again you have amazed me, PLEASE read my reply it explains everything.


4 stars seems to be more than average, for every PSU there would be someone saying DOA, worked for a WHILE and then broke.
So please refrain from asking already answered question, unless you didn't understand it then say so, I dont see anything from with the PSU i recommended.
 

hspirik

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So much hostility! lol. Im trying to read through this all and figure out what the heck is the best option.

VMN you said your recommendation would be to"Save a couple of hundred bucks and get a i7 with a 780/770-280x"
What would a build like that run if you drop the keyboard mouse and monitor?
I don't want to sell myself short on main hardware because of a mouse and monitor. I use a Wacom tablet for most of my editing anyway so the other stuff can definitely come second.

Also, another random thought I just had, I haven't had a whole lot of trouble with the Sims being slow or laggy in game, I like to add a lot of custom content to it which has literally made load times like 30 minutes in the past just to open the game. I don't know how that affects things or what would help eliminate that.





 

hspirik

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Thanks for this info... I didn't even think about that being relevant when getting a keyboard, but I hate the ones that are all clacky-sounding.
 

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if you want a solid build you'll ignore these two raging idiots and go with mine. no reason for you to get a i7 and no reason for you not to get the highest end gpu you can when you can afford it.
 

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lol no. trust me coolermaster makes very high quality perphirals. 100$ for a quality mechanical keyboard? yes please. also if I were going to get a keyboard that cost that much I'd get a filco mechanical :p

and also you guys are getting pretty emotional. just give this person the best possible build for the money please :) thanks no reason for a i7 for a pure gaming stand point and no reason not to get the highest end gpu you can afford. if I really had my way with this build it'd have a 780 in there lol.
 

hspirik

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So far i'm leaning towards this build..:) Just a few questions - Would an SSD make a significant difference in run/load times for to OS & select software?

What kind of differences would I see with a 780? What would the price difference look like with one of those in there? ( I tried to look but there's like, 5 of them with difference prices and I don't know enough about them to know whats what)

Also this might be a dumb question, I can work dual monitors with the graphics card right? I feel stupid for asking but I have to have 2 going for work.