8 Gb Vs 16 Gb Ram

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I am wondering if it is worth the extra money to build a system with 16 gb 2133 Mhz Ram or one with 8 gb 1866 Mhz ram. Here are the rest of the specs:

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming Socket LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard

Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

Corsair CX Series CX750 750 Watt ATX 12V Power Supply

Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 16GB DDR3-2133

Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow White LED ATX Cube Computer Case - Black


SAPPHIRE 100364-4GBF4L Radeon R9 270X 4GB GDDR5 

Intel I7 4700k LGA 1150

Or..

Everything the same just with:

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)
 
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8 GB is fine like ingtar33 said that would be the need for 16 GB also one thing that needs mentioning, 16GB is great for SSD based rigs as it improves swap file performance and saves on i/o transactions prolonging the life of your SSD as well as it's performance.

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I will be using it for gaming, playing games like Bf4 and some others.

 

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8 GB is fine like ingtar33 said that would be the need for 16 GB also one thing that needs mentioning, 16GB is great for SSD based rigs as it improves swap file performance and saves on i/o transactions prolonging the life of your SSD as well as it's performance.
 
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Ram is relatively cheap.
It is best bought in one kit, so if you ever should need 16gb, it is better to buy it up front.
No game , by itself will use more than 2-3gb of ram.
Windows will keep extra code in ram available for instant reuse. more ram makes your pc just a bit more responsive.

Haswell does not depend on fast ram. 1866 or even 1600 ram is fine.
other things being equal, lower cas is good.
There is up to a 5% difference in fps between the slowest and fastest ram.
Here is a good article on that. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell/7
Look at the gaming tests for single gpu.

I would stretch for a 16gb kit of 2 x 8gb ddr3 1866 or 1600 speed ram.

Some other thoughts:
1. GTX760 seems weak for your cpu if you are gaming. GTX770 would be better.

2. Gaming does not use many cores, save $100 for a better graphics card and use a i5-4670K

3. I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler can do the job.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would use a cm hyper212 or similar for a mild oc.
for max oc, a noctua pr phanteks air cooler with 140mm fans.
4. A good 650w psu is all you need; it will run a top graphics card like a GTX780ti.
5. I would do that build with a ssd for the c drive.
 


completely correct. However, the last point... about extending the life of the drive, while true, is not really relevant.

I've had a 840 Evo up and running for little over a month. it's supposed to live for 250TB (according to samsung, though independent testing put it closer to 450TB)... in that time i've had 500 GB of writes... 250TB /0.5TB/Month = 500 months / 12 months/year = 41 years lifespan

I'm a pretty a-typical computer user... as in i'm on it all the time, i play games surf the net, overclock and tweek... i didn't bother to make a ramdisk cache; all i disabled was hybernate mode, because i hate that mode in windows (sleep is fine). all the caching is default. and all i've used in the 40+ days i've had it is a little more then 500gb of writes.

I'm not sure how you'd have to use the drive to do more... probably use it as a server drive... but samsung's own 30 month warranty is clearly based on an absurd 100gb of writes per day. i'll tell you, that's probably never going to happen.

So i wouldn't get the extra ram for disk caching so that you extend the life of your ssd. Any modern SSD will last more then long enough with or without it. Disk Caching with ram has speed advantages as you pointed out, which make it attractive, but extending the life of the ssd probably shouldn't be on the list of reasons you do it.

call it a luxury not a necessity.