Firs gaming pc help please

Damo191995

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Hi guys, I am building my first gaming pc, I am planning on ordering the parts today.
I got a question, are these specs good? I am not planning to overclock

Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core

Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150

Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600

EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card

Thank you

 

jnewegger23

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You are off to a great start! Why not go for the 4670K? Most people plan on not overclocking but wish they could later. What psu and case are you going to be using in this build? Have you been to pcpartpicker? Great place to make sure you are building the best rig before you buy. You can click my signature to see my build. Even if you just went as is, you're in for a lot of fun!

Thanks,

Justin S.
 

jnewegger23

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On paper amd gpus tend to show good fps but in actual gaming, you get micro stutter with bad driver issues etc. I've heard that's not supposed to be the case now with the newer amd gpus. Nonetheless, nvidia while not flawless is a lot more reliable with drivers and overall gaming experience. So, I lean towards the geforce gpus for better gaming experience even if on paper the amd seems to have a slight edge and reviews (gameplay not just benchmarks) usually later confirm with data what I previously experienced and anticipate. It could be different this time but I still believe for now that nvidia is your best bet. Again, there's great value in amd products but if you can get the nvidia instead I would. Not a fan boy in either direction; just going for who is winning now on a consistent basis, not just once in a while. Just my 2cents.

So according to guru3d the 270x benchmarks in 3dmark11 with a P score of 8765 while the 660 benchmarks at 6740. This on paper is significant. I'm sure it translates pretty well in game too! You just have to go with your gut. The 660 is proven, saves you $30 but maybe the 270x has the better value. You won't be stuck with the card forever so keep that in mind. I like to go with proven winners and let others take the risk but without risk there's no reward. You'll have to decide if it's worth making that choice. Not the riskiest choice these days though as AMD is a good company and seems to be making strides. It's a good problem!

But one last point, to make the fight more fair, if you were to spend another $30 towards the GTX 760 then the 270x loses it's advantage on paper dramatically and all the other factors when you put it into play you realize that you can have a pretty great card without any of the downside. Something to ponder as you can get a good 760 for about $250 now.

A 550W psu would be better as that's the minimum recommended for a 760 should you choose to go in that direction; newegg says only 500w but I tend to listen to the gamer reviews.
 

Ronaldspiers

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Unless I am missing something The microstutter was really only for crossfire set ups. Which can still be present on nvidia cards in SLI.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.18 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£101.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card (£223.66 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£83.70 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£73.99 @ Dabs)
Total: £818.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 12:41 GMT+0000)

Over Budget by £18. But its got a more powerful GPU, overclocking potential for future and a better PSU.
I hope I didnt miss anything. I assumed you already have peripherals.

In the event you want to save some more money then drop to the 4670 (non-K) or the 4570. And get a 650W PSU.
 

StarBG

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As CPU the Xeon 1230v3 is best if you dont want to overclock like crazy, it is an core i7 without overclock and without integrated GPU but with a H87 mainboard you can set the turbo to all cores to run at 3.7GHz and you can even set the vcore under 1v and it runs at very low temps and consumes less watt. It has the same performance like core i7.
 

Ronaldspiers

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I didn't think xeons were very efficient when it came to gaming. Though in honesty I havent really looked into it :p
 

StarBG

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Yes, they are like normal cpus and same performance like the core i7 with 100-200MHz less and dont have unlocked multiplayer, just the turbo as overclock potential and BLCK. It can be undervolted to run with low temps since they are made for 24/7 and the base core volt is low.
 


I made a few improvements :-

+ Changed CPU with Hyperthreaded Xeon which is basically an i7, better for newer games.
+ Changed the GPU with much powerful R9-280x which is comparable to Nvidia 770.
+ Since the CPU is not meant for overclocking, hence I went for cheaper board, still quality features.
+ Replaced RAM with low profile and better looking Patriot Viper 3.
+ Swapped Case with Bitfenix Shinobi since it has more features, is sturdier and looks better.
+ Opted for Asus DVD Writer instead. Lite-Ons can be noisy sometimes. but anyways who uses DVD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£186.60 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£88.78 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.97 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card (£223.66 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.00 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer (£15.30 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £708.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 17:49 GMT+0000)

This will give you an overall better performance which is on par with the i7 with Nvidia 770. So, considering the budget is still same, this makes more sense if you are not overclocking.