Zotac GTX 660 or Zotac GTX 660 Synergy Edition

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ajitesh

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I'm confused between which one is better for my PC, the normal edition or the synergy edition. I've got an HP Pro 3330 Microtower of which I've upgraded the PSU to a Corsair VS550.
Another problem is that the same GPU shows a recommended PSU wattage of 600W on the Zotac website whereas its shows 450W as minimum on Flipkart.
Will my PSU be able to power the Zotac GTX 660 and if yes, which edition is better for gaming?

Link to my PC
http://www8.hp.com/in/en/products/desktops/product-detail.html?oid=5160080#!tab=features

Link to my PSU
http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supply-units/vs-series-power-supply-units/vs-seriestm-vs550-550-watt-power-supply.html

Link to Zotac GTX 660
http://www.zotacusa.com/geforce-gtx-660-zt-60901-10m.html

Link to Zotac GTX 660 Synergy edition
http://www.zotacusa.com/geforce-gtx-660-zt-60904-10m.html

Link from which I'll buy which shows 450W requirement on GTX 660
http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-gtx-660-synergy-2gb-ddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdsfycg7drrphs?pid=GRCDSFYBHYNEXNW9&otracker=from-search&srno=t_2&query=zotac+gtx+660&ref=060cfdf7-8aa5-4541-8cf5-49451dc60a9d
 
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Rest in piece English grammar....

LOWER as in COMPARISON. Comparison between the top brands. Not LOW - as in how you understand it. And WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS.

Asus cards are the ones with the longest life. Proven for more than a decade.

As I said, the top quality are those 6 brands. I split them in 2 Tiers. Is the concept too hard to get?

As far as the other goes, I was working as a sys. admin long ago. And I have owned, build with and repaired machines since the 133 MHz Pentium I era. I still have working Asus GeForce Ti 4400 and a Sapphire Radeon 7500 and a 9500 (the years before the HD series) with 128, 64 and 128 MB of RAM respectively and my prized jewel is a Asus GeForce2 MX with the...
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Zotac is one of the brands that I know of with the proven highest failure rates.

Manifacturers to avoid:
PNY, Palit, Power Color, Zotac, Club3D, Gainward, Point of View

Best Manifacturers:
Tier 1: Asus, Gigabyte, Sapphire
Tier 2: EVGA, XFX, MSI
 
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All GTX 660TI(most of the cases)/670 or 760 and up manufacturers are quite equal. But EVGA, MSI and XFX have lower quility when it comes to mainstream or low-end cards. These 3 brands love to take reference PCBs, factory OC them and sell them to the public. EVGA, MSI and XFX have rare (but sometimes) power design issues in the this segment and that's how the majority of the returned cards fail. They are prone to coil whine after few years. Also they are generally noisier and hotter. Specially XFX are noisier. MSI and XFX fans tend to fail more than others. While EVGA almoust always goes with less robust power design.

The mainstream segment is quite different from the top-tier. Nobody messes up their cards there. Asus, Gigabyte and Sapphire are the only ones that tend to the lower-end and mainstream segment the way they tend to the higher end.
 
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what? EVGA low quality? What are you smoking? evga is known all over the web for making some of the highest quality cards lol. Your information is severely skewed. And for the record most of msi and just about ALL of evga cards are all custom pcb not reference. Im not sure where you get your information. All cards are subject to issues but MSI and EVGA specifically make amazing high end cards with great coolers. Evga blower type coolers can run warmer yes because they are based on the stock reference coolers. Once you step into the custom coolers both msi and evga are both considered top tier companies. Sapphire makes amd cards only so im not sure why u even mention them when the OP asked about nvidia cards. EVGA ASUS MSI are most people (including myself) first 3 picks along with gigabyte.
 
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What are you smoking kid? You do love selective reading do you? Do you even comprehend what I said? Ok, I will write slowly, because you understand slowly.

- I was talking about brands, regardless of nVidia or AMD affiliations, since some of them do both companies

- NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS

- I made Tier 1 and Tier 2 of top brands. I never ever mentioned low quality. Low quality was the ones I said to avoid.

- NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS

- You have 780TI. All brands will do top tier GPUs ( 660ti, 670, 680, 760, 770, 780, 780TI, Titan) at top notch quality.

- BUT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS

- I am talking about low-end, low-mid, and mid tier video cards (GT line, 650, 650ti, 650TI Boost, 660), something the OP is looking for, something you don't have, something I use.

- NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS

- EVGA uses mainly reference design for almost all low and mid end cards:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/10/04/evga-geforce-gtx-650-1gb-review/1
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6359/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review/3
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_660_sc_review,2.html

The non-reference models, when they do exist are almost always out of stock in all major e-retailers in Europe. (sorry, I'm from Europe, deal with it). Yes, I checked it.

- NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS

I do computers as a hobby, My father does it for living. He has stockpiles of broken parts. And in the low-end and mainstream segment, Asus, Gigabyte and Sapphire have the lowest fail rate from his and mine experience.

You are a fanboy, cool. I got facts and experience.

P.S Did I mention? NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS
 
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" But EVGA, MSI and XFX have lower quility when it comes to mainstream or low-end cards" thats your exact words. Lol i was a pc tech for many years working for several big box stores and you are the first i have EVER heard refering to msi or evga as anything but top quality stuff. I have owned anything from 8800gts from evga up to their 560ti and now the current card and msi is pretty much all i use for anything else (mobo etc) and have built many pc's with msi cards and evga cards. If you have had bad luck with them in the past then i apologize for that but dont say they are of lesser quality. I'd have to strongly disagree and mentioning sapphire regardless was pointless since he is asking about 660 which sapphire does not make. Msi with their twin frozer models and evga are of the 2 most commonly mentioned and normally referred to as great quality cards in the 600 series of cards. Everyone has their opinions but msi and evga were at least around where i am from the most popular cards in the 600 series.


The 760 is also not considered top tier card as you listed since its the lowest card of the 700 series for desktops really when it comes to gaming. 770 780 and 780ti would be considered top tier in that series. I dont know if i would consider the 760 anything but mid range, I'm not trying to attack you so dont attack me and call me kid. I've been around long enough to have 14 years building experience and have worked as a repair tech for pc's. You have your OPINIONS and everyone else has theirs.
 
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Rest in piece English grammar....

LOWER as in COMPARISON. Comparison between the top brands. Not LOW - as in how you understand it. And WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH END CARDS.

Asus cards are the ones with the longest life. Proven for more than a decade.

As I said, the top quality are those 6 brands. I split them in 2 Tiers. Is the concept too hard to get?

As far as the other goes, I was working as a sys. admin long ago. And I have owned, build with and repaired machines since the 133 MHz Pentium I era. I still have working Asus GeForce Ti 4400 and a Sapphire Radeon 7500 and a 9500 (the years before the HD series) with 128, 64 and 128 MB of RAM respectively and my prized jewel is a Asus GeForce2 MX with the whooping 32 MB which is still operational. I don't know what and how and for who you build, but my impression does not consist of only few models or few brands or few years. I have been around to build for almost 2 decades.

As your augment about low, mid, high end - per price range for the place that I live in.

low end - 610, 620, 630 - from 0 to 60/70 Euro
low-mid - 640, 650 - from 80 to 120
mid - 650Ti, 650Ti boost, 660 - from 120 to 180/190
mid-high - 660ti, 760 - from 190 to 260/270
high-end - 670, 680, 770, 780, 780Ti, Titan - 270 and up

P.S I was not the one attacking, I was reacting. You started with "what are you smoking".
 
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still this doesn't answer my question!!!!!! ZOTAC GTX 660 or ZOTAC GTX 660 Synergy Edition???? which is better as both cost the same in my country.
And also iv'e decided i will buy ZOTAC no matter what.
 
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Take the ZOTAC GeForce GTX 660. The Synergy edition is smaller, intended for ITX build probably, so its cooling solution will be noisier. The Normal ZOTAC GeForce GTX 660 has bigger cooler, allowing it to possibly run cooler and quieter. Also the ZOTAC GeForce GTX 660 supports higher resolution, which is a mystery to me, since both cards are almost exactly the same.
 
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Ajit i think u r from India...there r many guys here who tried to help u...Now take my advise...first,on Zotac official site u saw the recommended PSU 600 watt...and on flipkart u saw minimum 450 watt...u got 550 watt that is more than enough for GTX 660 or GTX 660 Synergy Edition...am using this card(Synergy) with my 500 watt cooler master i5 3450 and 4x2=8GB corsair vengeance on 1366x768 res with out any problem.the reference card i mean the normal GTX 660 has 980MHZ core clock speed and Synergy edition has 993MHZ although u can OC it if know about OC and having a good PSU..those guys who said u Zotac is a bad sub brand they just a fan boy of ASUS/XFX/MSI/GYGABYTE etc. without study they replayed to u.they r right from their country...as if In India cooler master is the best brand for PSU but on other countries Corsair is best...a guy advised u to go with Asus/XFX/GYGABYTE/MSI etc...ya these brands r the best but he does not know Asus delivering manufacturing defective cards in India...not only cards Mobos as well and XFX stopped dealing with Nvidia & u can't find EVGA on Indian local market u have order it online. am giving u info from a trusted gaming site it is not only a gaming site u can learn lots of things about hardware architecture etc...so best sub brands depends on country.also budget matters...if u go for MSI u have pay extra money for it..& these sub brands does not enhance a lot performance..max to max it will increase 5% to 7% extra performance not more than that..& no need to pay for just 5% to 7% difference..i think up to 20% difference cant be noticeable on low res..as if GTX 660 vs R9 270X..the difference is only 10% and these 10% u can experience only 1080p res or above...a GTX 660 will give more or less same performance on 720p res as R9 270X gives on 1080p res.. this sub brands mainly focus on cooling...that means more cooling more performance but limited...if u want to study about these stuffs plz join Game debate.com.(smd_rocks@rediffmail.com).GO FOR GTX 660 SYNERGY EDITION U WILL NOT GET DISAPPOINTMENT ! Thank u :)
 
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Hello ajitesh, did you buy the card from flipkart? I am asking because the site shows GTX 660 with an image of GTX 660 synergy edition. So i am confused. Can you please help? And also did you get the dvi to vga adapter in your box?
 
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I actually bought the GTX 760 in the end. Flipkart showed the correct picture when I saw it last and they always come with VGA adapters.
 
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man don't say goddamn jerks... nothing's wrong with zotac.. my gtx 680 is by zotac and its 9 months old running flawlessly...
remember only zotac gives a 5year warrenty that no other companies does.. and they are also preety good with their warrenty terms.
so whats the prob?
the only prob u can face is the cooling issue. as gtx 660 synergy is slightly overclocked than the stock clock , it will do produce more heat during load but having no heatpipes or 2fan cooling solution even in the overclocked model, zotac has done a dumbass job..
so if u have a great cabinet with good airflow go for it otherwise u can get a msi, dont get any nvidia's stock cooling sol cards. get a twin frozer or direct cu2 or windforce.
anyway zotac card is priced preety amezingly , and already being overclocked it still comes in a little bit less price.. so u can save a 10$ with is probably.. haha.
happy buying
 
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lol... msi have got some brown col pcbs'.. looks horrible in ur good looking cabinet
 
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I presume you did not read me last post. I've already bought the ZOTAC GTX 760 with the stock cooler and it works just fine without any heating issues. I can't by a dual fan GPU as the airflow in my stoch HP Cabinet is awful so I needed a blower. We'll thanks anyways
 
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Zotac has the perfect fan and heat sink if there is not a lot of space in case. Some of the gpu cooling form factors are 2 inches shorter than other cards. I actually run my games on a refurbished HP business computer with some case form factor sheet metal in the way of standard PSU and dual slot video cards. Nothing a sheet metal cutter can't fix. 600 PSU installed. The access is from the right side of the desktop, so the slot cards face up instead of down, and dual slot video cards 8 inches long run into the cpu heat sink. The Zotac 660 Synergy is the only 660/760 that fit in perfectly. Most 650/750s are short enough. Even some 650/750 Ti. 670/770+ forget it as all are 9.5 inches long.
 
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i got synergy edition gtx660 and i'm using coolermaster 500w psu it workin fine from almost 1 and half year and btw normal one need 600w but synergy edition is low power consumption model which needs only 450w
i donno about normal one but this synergy edition is good no problem with that
hope this helps
 
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