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February 3, 2014 2:12:25 PM

Hello

After many years of being fascinated by computers I have finally decided to try and build one.

The problem I am currently facing is that I'm not completely sure if the parts I have picked out go well together, are compatible, and whether or not I'm going completely overboard on one part compared to the other(s).

The parts for the PC I have picked out are:

Case:
NZXT Crafted Series Phantom Black/Green Steel/Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
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Power Supply:
CORSAIR CXM series CX750M 750W ATX12V v2.3
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Motherboard:
ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
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Processor:
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core
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Video Card:
GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
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Sound Card:
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Zx soundcard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory:
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866
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Hard-Drive:
Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB
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Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD (for OS)
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I have no knowledge of water cooling and don't know much about fans in general either, which is something I plan to read up on. I'm not certain whether or not I should get new fans to replace ones that would come with the case.
February 3, 2014 2:41:35 PM

Looks good, what are you going to do with your computer?
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February 3, 2014 2:45:58 PM

darksoul1 said:
Looks good, what are you going to do with your computer?


I was planning to use it for mainly gaming

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February 3, 2014 2:46:55 PM

James Mason said:
You dont need or generally really want to use an SSD for storing programs and files, you're better off with a regular HDD for that.
Also that 500 GB SSD could probably get you several terrabytes of HDD space.


Oh, really? I was trying to find a good HDD but I couldn't find one that didn't have a lot of failure rate reviews. If you could recommend one that would be awesome!

I thought storing games, music, etc was good for an SSD so I figured I would use it for pretty much everything.
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February 3, 2014 2:51:50 PM

Yorio said:
James Mason said:
You dont need or generally really want to use an SSD for storing programs and files, you're better off with a regular HDD for that.
Also that 500 GB SSD could probably get you several terrabytes of HDD space.


Oh, really? I was trying to find a good HDD but I couldn't find one that didn't have a lot of failure rate reviews. If you could recommend one that would be awesome!

I thought storing games, music, etc was good for an SSD so I figured I would use it for pretty much everything.

The 2 drives I listed both have pretty good waranties on them, and Western Digital is a good company making replacing a busted/dead HDD pretty painless.
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February 3, 2014 2:53:13 PM

What James said is correct. You can save that money and buy 1 or 2 TB HDD drives and upgrade your GPU :)  get a GTX 780ti.

I have a SSD for my OS and BF4 (for the fast loading screens and only had enough room for just one hardcore game) you can buy a 256GB SSD just for alittle bit more extra room


What about a disc drive?
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February 3, 2014 2:55:29 PM

This build seems unbalanced to me, given that you're able to buy a 500Gb SSD you can probably get a much more capable gaming machine, you can start by stating your budget and answering:

-Is gaming the main use for this computer?
-Will you need a monitor/peripherals/operating system within your stated budget?
-Where are you located?
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February 3, 2014 2:55:48 PM

James Mason said:
Yorio said:
James Mason said:
You dont need or generally really want to use an SSD for storing programs and files, you're better off with a regular HDD for that.
Also that 500 GB SSD could probably get you several terrabytes of HDD space.


Oh, really? I was trying to find a good HDD but I couldn't find one that didn't have a lot of failure rate reviews. If you could recommend one that would be awesome!

I thought storing games, music, etc was good for an SSD so I figured I would use it for pretty much everything.

The 2 drives I listed both have pretty good waranties on them, and Western Digital is a good company making replacing a busted/dead HDD pretty painless.


Ah okay, thanks a lot!

Would you still recommend using an HDD even though I was going to use the 500GB SSD for everything from file storage to games?
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February 3, 2014 3:07:25 PM

Yorio said:
James Mason said:
Yorio said:
James Mason said:
You dont need or generally really want to use an SSD for storing programs and files, you're better off with a regular HDD for that.
Also that 500 GB SSD could probably get you several terrabytes of HDD space.


Oh, really? I was trying to find a good HDD but I couldn't find one that didn't have a lot of failure rate reviews. If you could recommend one that would be awesome!

I thought storing games, music, etc was good for an SSD so I figured I would use it for pretty much everything.

The 2 drives I listed both have pretty good waranties on them, and Western Digital is a good company making replacing a busted/dead HDD pretty painless.


Ah okay, thanks a lot!

Would you still recommend using an HDD even though I was going to use the 500GB SSD for everything from file storage to games?

SSDs dont really improve game performance anyways, they might make it easier to open big several gigabyte Excel files though.
SSDs improve loading times, that's it.

I also noticed you're buying a soundcard.
Are you an Audiophile? Because if you're not the onboard audio should probably be enough for you.
That's more money you can save and redirect into a better GPU like Darksoul and Pepito said.
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February 3, 2014 3:08:33 PM

PepitoTV said:
This build seems unbalanced to me, given that you're able to buy a 500Gb SSD you can probably get a much more capable gaming machine, you can start by stating your budget and answering:

-Is gaming the main use for this computer?
-Will you need a monitor/peripherals/operating system within your stated budget?
-Where are you located?


- Yes, gaming will be the main use
- I will only need to purchase an OS along with the system.
- The budget is $1500
- I am located in Wisconsin, U.S.


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February 3, 2014 3:09:49 PM

James Mason said:
Yorio said:
James Mason said:
Yorio said:
James Mason said:
You dont need or generally really want to use an SSD for storing programs and files, you're better off with a regular HDD for that.
Also that 500 GB SSD could probably get you several terrabytes of HDD space.


Oh, really? I was trying to find a good HDD but I couldn't find one that didn't have a lot of failure rate reviews. If you could recommend one that would be awesome!

I thought storing games, music, etc was good for an SSD so I figured I would use it for pretty much everything.

The 2 drives I listed both have pretty good waranties on them, and Western Digital is a good company making replacing a busted/dead HDD pretty painless.


Ah okay, thanks a lot!

Would you still recommend using an HDD even though I was going to use the 500GB SSD for everything from file storage to games?

SSDs dont really improve game performance anyways, they might make it easier to open big several gigabyte Excel files though.
SSDs improve loading times, that's it.


Ah alright, thanks for the info, I'll probably look into an HDD then.

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February 3, 2014 3:11:13 PM

darksoul1 said:
What James said is correct. You can save that money and buy 1 or 2 TB HDD drives and upgrade your GPU :)  get a GTX 780ti.

I have a SSD for my OS and BF4 (for the fast loading screens and only had enough room for just one hardcore game) you can buy a 256GB SSD just for alittle bit more extra room


What about a disc drive?


I'm actually in the process of looking for one. Disk drives seem all the same to me so it's a bit confusing.
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February 3, 2014 3:16:32 PM

James Mason said:
Yorio said:
James Mason said:
Yorio said:
James Mason said:
You dont need or generally really want to use an SSD for storing programs and files, you're better off with a regular HDD for that.
Also that 500 GB SSD could probably get you several terrabytes of HDD space.


Oh, really? I was trying to find a good HDD but I couldn't find one that didn't have a lot of failure rate reviews. If you could recommend one that would be awesome!

I thought storing games, music, etc was good for an SSD so I figured I would use it for pretty much everything.

The 2 drives I listed both have pretty good waranties on them, and Western Digital is a good company making replacing a busted/dead HDD pretty painless.


Ah okay, thanks a lot!

Would you still recommend using an HDD even though I was going to use the 500GB SSD for everything from file storage to games?

SSDs dont really improve game performance anyways, they might make it easier to open big several gigabyte Excel files though.
SSDs improve loading times, that's it.

I also noticed you're buying a soundcard.
Are you an Audiophile? Because if you're not the onboard audio should probably be enough for you.
That's more money you can save and redirect into a better GPU like Darksoul and Pepito said.


I thought that a decent soundcard was pretty much essential to any build. I do really like how the audio sounds so I might keep the soundcard.

Do you think any disk drive would do?
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February 3, 2014 3:41:45 PM

Yorio said:
PepitoTV said:
This build seems unbalanced to me, given that you're able to buy a 500Gb SSD you can probably get a much more capable gaming machine, you can start by stating your budget and answering:

-Is gaming the main use for this computer?
-Will you need a monitor/peripherals/operating system within your stated budget?
-Where are you located?


- Yes, gaming will be the main use
- I will only need to purchase an OS along with the system.
- The budget is $1500
- I am located in Wisconsin, U.S.




Then this would be my suggestion for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($495.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1475.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 18:40 EST-0500)
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February 3, 2014 3:53:50 PM

PepitoTV said:
Yorio said:
PepitoTV said:
This build seems unbalanced to me, given that you're able to buy a 500Gb SSD you can probably get a much more capable gaming machine, you can start by stating your budget and answering:

-Is gaming the main use for this computer?
-Will you need a monitor/peripherals/operating system within your stated budget?
-Where are you located?


- Yes, gaming will be the main use
- I will only need to purchase an OS along with the system.
- The budget is $1500
- I am located in Wisconsin, U.S.




Then this would be my suggestion for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($495.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1475.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 18:40 EST-0500)


What made you choose that processor over the one I listed?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm still new but it seems to me that they're around the same price yet the one I chose is more powerful? At least that's what it seems to me. I'm not knowledgable to know if one is just outright better than the other.
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February 3, 2014 4:07:11 PM

Yorio said:
PepitoTV said:
Yorio said:
PepitoTV said:
This build seems unbalanced to me, given that you're able to buy a 500Gb SSD you can probably get a much more capable gaming machine, you can start by stating your budget and answering:

-Is gaming the main use for this computer?
-Will you need a monitor/peripherals/operating system within your stated budget?
-Where are you located?


- Yes, gaming will be the main use
- I will only need to purchase an OS along with the system.
- The budget is $1500
- I am located in Wisconsin, U.S.




Then this would be my suggestion for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($495.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1475.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 18:40 EST-0500)


What made you choose that processor over the one I listed?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm still new but it seems to me that they're around the same price yet the one I chose is more powerful? At least that's what it seems to me. I'm not knowledgable to know if one is just outright better than the other.


The i5-4670k is consistently one of the best gaming processors out there, it offers better overall performance than the FX 8350 despite having less cores, just google 8350 vs 4570k and you can see for yourself. That said, there's nothing wrong with the FX 8350, I'm just suggesting the better processor since you can afford it.
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February 3, 2014 4:15:11 PM

PepitoTV said:
Yorio said:
PepitoTV said:
Yorio said:
PepitoTV said:
This build seems unbalanced to me, given that you're able to buy a 500Gb SSD you can probably get a much more capable gaming machine, you can start by stating your budget and answering:

-Is gaming the main use for this computer?
-Will you need a monitor/peripherals/operating system within your stated budget?
-Where are you located?


- Yes, gaming will be the main use
- I will only need to purchase an OS along with the system.
- The budget is $1500
- I am located in Wisconsin, U.S.




Then this would be my suggestion for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($495.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1475.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 18:40 EST-0500)


What made you choose that processor over the one I listed?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm still new but it seems to me that they're around the same price yet the one I chose is more powerful? At least that's what it seems to me. I'm not knowledgable to know if one is just outright better than the other.


The i5-4670k is consistently one of the best gaming processors out there, it offers better overall performance than the FX 8350 despite having less cores, just google 8350 vs 4570k and you can see for yourself. That said, there's nothing wrong with the FX 8350, I'm just suggesting the better processor since you can afford it.


Oh okay! Man I don't know a thing.

One more question. It's about the motherboard. I'm assuming that's a downgrade from the one I have listed
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think it's awesome that you found all this, and I'm probably going to use most of it, if not all. However, is that motherboard going to be kind of unstable with something like the 780 hooked onto it or something? I have no idea what I'm talking about as I'm still very new. But if you compare the two would there be a noticeable difference?
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February 4, 2014 8:28:35 AM

Yorio said:


Oh okay! Man I don't know a thing.

One more question. It's about the motherboard. I'm assuming that's a downgrade from the one I have listed
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think it's awesome that you found all this, and I'm probably going to use most of it, if not all. However, is that motherboard going to be kind of unstable with something like the 780 hooked onto it or something? I have no idea what I'm talking about as I'm still very new. But if you compare the two would there be a noticeable difference?


Depends what you mean by unstable, but no, there shouldn't be an issue unless you like to play toss with your computer case, in which case the weight of the card could cause damage to either the card or the motherboard when you transport the case anywhere.
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