RAM for ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS Dual LGA 2011 Intel Motherboard

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Does this board take special memory only or can it handle normal single socket PC memory too?

I need to know what to look for,
Or a link to 16Gb or 32Gb of memory for this system

links would be appreciated to speed this along the system is ready to be built and I only have 30 days from the first purchase to find faulty equipment.

Thanks
 
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saquist,

I hope this will answer your questions>

-I don't understand the concept of the modules.

-I'm not sure what the 4x8 RAM means in terms of the modules or how much each stick is and how that will apply to each CPU and so I still am not sure of what I need.


___ I am suggesting that you buy four modules, or "sticks" of RAM that are each eight Gigabyte capacity and of 1866 speed.

I need to get 32Gigs now and allow for a sizeable RAM upgrade later...
(64 or 96


___ In my view, the 32GB of RAM is a minimal amount for this system. [The motherboard will support up to 256GB of RAM (=8 X (times) 32GB)]. Because there are eight RAM slots on the motherboard, the choice of 4 times 8GB (32GB) to start with will...
saquist,

On the asus.com site, specifications for the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS memory are >

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z9PED8_WS/#specifications

"" 8 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR3 2133(O.C.)/2000(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz ECC, Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory *1
Quad Channel Memory Architecture
*For Registered Memory, Max. 256GB DDR3 1866/1600/1333/1066/800 MHz
* Refer to www.asus.com for the Memory QVL (Qualified Vendors Lists).""

> It is important in this kind of system to use the RAM from the Memory QVL (Qualified Vendors Lists) as these list specific models of memory that are known to be compatible. The Memory QVL list >

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/server/ESC2000_G2/Manual&QVL/ESC2000G2_Z9PE-D8_WS_AVL_UDIMM_130926.pdf

Also, as the memory is quad channel, there will be better results by using blocks of 4 modules at a time. You may wish to choose module size so that there is room for expansion later. For example, as there are 8 RAM slots, start with 4 X 8GB so that a further 4 X 8GB may be added later. Keep in mind that RAM is placed as corresponding to each of the two CPU and is placed in a particular sequence that is also symmetrical for both CPU's. This board will support up to 2133 non-ECC (which is overclocked from 1866 I think), and the recent 1866 native ECC, which would be my choice if you're using V2 Xeons.

It's possible of course to initially use one CPU and in that case all the RAM is placed in the relevant bank of slots to CPU 1. There is communication between the banks of RAM, but in a dual Xeon CPU system, today, I would consider 16GB per CPU the minimum.

An excellent choice for the motherboard - the very one I'd choose if I were building a dual Xeon system. Courtesy of each LGA2011 delivering 40 PCIe lanes, there are seven PCIe 3.0 X16 slots (can use 4 at X16 at a time plus 3 at 8X) and it's perfect for the world of co-processors.

What are the CPU and graphics card choices?

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2013) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB ECC 1600 RAM (4 x 4GB, 4 X 2GB)(HP/Samsung) > Quadro 4000 (2GB) > Samsung 840 SSD 250GB / Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi // HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 // Windows 7 Ultimate 64 > Autodesk Building Design Suite, Inventor Pro, Solidworks, Adobe CS MC, Corel Technical Design Sketchup Pro, WordP Office, MS Office Pro [Passmark system rating = 3815, 2D= 767 / 3D=2044]

Dell Precision T5400 (2009) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB ECC 667 (8 X 2GB)(Samsung) > Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card > Linksys 600N WiFi > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > HP 2711x 27" 1920 x 1080 > (earlier versions) AutoCad, Solidworks, Sketchup Pro, Corel Technical Designer, Adobe CS MC, WordP Office, MS Office Pro [Passmark system rating = 1859, 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]
 

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I'm not sure if I understand that tech speak. I only have limited experience in IT and usually with older computers. I've never had to go this deep before.

-I don't understand the concept of the modules
-I'm not sure what the 4x8 RAM means in terms of the modules or how much each stick is and how that will apply to each CPU and so I still am not sure of what I need.
-I don't understand how the RAM is divided
-I don't understand ECC vs Non ECC for my needs.

+I do understand Each CPU will need it's on amount of RAM.
+I do understand you are recommending 1866 for the dual processors over 1600DDR

I still don't know what "module" I need to get 32Gigs now and allow for a sizeable RAM upgrade later...
(64 or 96)

My system will be supporting 2x 580GTX Graphic Cards and 2x XEON E5 2630 2.6 GHz Processors
 
saquist,

I hope this will answer your questions>

-I don't understand the concept of the modules.

-I'm not sure what the 4x8 RAM means in terms of the modules or how much each stick is and how that will apply to each CPU and so I still am not sure of what I need.


___ I am suggesting that you buy four modules, or "sticks" of RAM that are each eight Gigabyte capacity and of 1866 speed.

I need to get 32Gigs now and allow for a sizeable RAM upgrade later...
(64 or 96


___ In my view, the 32GB of RAM is a minimal amount for this system. [The motherboard will support up to 256GB of RAM (=8 X (times) 32GB)]. Because there are eight RAM slots on the motherboard, the choice of 4 times 8GB (32GB) to start with will allow additional RAM to be added later in the four open slots. Of course, if you started with 8 X 4GB to make the 32GB, all the slots would be filled and later on you'd have to throw away some or all of the 4GB modules to increase the total amount. If you start with 4 X 8GB and then buy another 4 X 8GB modules in the future, that will add 32GB to the original 32GB or a total of 64GB. If you buy 4 X 16GB (four times sixteen Gigabyte) modules in the future, that will add 64GB to the original 32GB or a total of 96GB. There is such a thing as 1 X 32GB modules- but very expensive (sometimes over $1,000 each), so conceivably you could add 4 X 32GB or 128GB to whatever you start with. Because this motherboard is optimized to use four modules,as a "set" the best solution will be to end up with eight of the same size, speed, and brand of RAM. You can not mix speeds, so if you start with 1866 don't add 1600 later or it will all run at 1600. If you are going to have more than 64GB of RAM in this system, the best solution will be to use all 16GB modules or 8 X 16GB =128GB. Otherwise, I'd say 8 X 8GB =64GB, but as mentioned you can have mix sizes and have four of one size and four of another. That's what I use in my Hp z420 with 8 RAM slots- 4 X 4GB plus 4 X 2GB to make a total of 24GB, and all is HP branded Samsung 1600 speed ECC.

__I'm also recommending that the brand and model of RAM should be selected from the ASUS list of RAM that has been tested with the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS motherboard.

-I don't understand how the RAM is divided

___ When building the system, the four modules will need to be arranged symmetrically so that each of the CPU's will have one, two, or four modules. If you look at the motherboard, you will see that there are two sets of four slots, each set of four slots relating to each of the two CPU sockets. The motherboard manual will have a diagram of which slots to use and in which order they are filled.

-I don't understand ECC vs Non ECC for my needs.

___ ECC means that the RAM is "error correcting"- it actually tests the accuracy of each bit of the data stream for errors. This constant checking of the precision can be very important for providing accuracy in predictive /analytical ;scientific and financial applications, and certain kinds of complex image processing, especially rendering and effects processing, animation, and simulations involving shadows, reflections, smoke, water, gas flow, and so on. In other words, the RAM keeps checking that the data stream doesn't accumulate errors and images don't have artifacts or misplaced shadows or particles. As you mention using two GTX 580's, and plenty of RAM, I'm guessing that you may be doing video editing,/effects processing and/or rendering / animation. With Xeon CPU's a workstation motherboard, and those uses, I would definitely recommend ECC.

Very good choices for the major components- because I use viewport and CAD software like Solidworks, I use Quadro graphics cards, but the 580 is my favorite GTX. By the way, keep in mind that some workstation applications - such as some by Adobe and Autodesk can't address multiple GPU's unless the system is certified for SLI.

Yes, complicated stuff!

Cheers,

BambiBoom
 
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IMHO, although I've seen good answers and references and some not, be for fun, be mindful that vendor compatibility lists do not verbally with communicate to each other (not do most who write them and I have more examples than I can count, except they would not your build. :D

To give you only ONE example, go to the Asus site, (who is very thorough) select the QVL for CPU's under the Z9PE-DE WS and watch what happens when your bring it up. It does excellent with the need for the version of BIOS no?
Yes.


So, would you be good to the move ahead with the configuration I build based on the ASUS QVL and if so, why, if not, why?

Here is my current build with the babble removed (except about the chassis).

ASUS Z9PE-DE WS
2x Xeon 2330's 2.3GHz (2.8GHz Turbo)
128 Gb A2 1,333 1.35v Registered ECC RAM (16Gb x8)
2 x StarTech 4 drive 2 x 40MM cooled each
2 x corsair HP75 Liquid CPU Coolers
128Gb Memory A2 Registered ECC 16Gb x 8
2 x GeForce GTX 680 4Gb
8 x OCZ 240GB MaxOp SSDs
1 x LSI MegaRAID 9271 with Fastpath, BBU, 800MGz “ROC” (1Gb DDR3) holds up to a Gb of Cache
2 x 1920 x 1,018 Samsung Monitors
2 x 2TB WD Enterprise DAS for RAID-0-Array Block Image Backup and Point-in-time snaps, managed with Netweaver and all network file back up is a VNX; Enterprisewide.

Chassis Corsair 900D (IMO this a poor case for business used by people who want to use the drive ports and make use if the ports. The new “tool less” feature (please give back the tools). I broke 2 supposed Hot Swaps handling them with more care than I’d like to elaborate on. One did get the drive it, then the handle broke as I simply decided to remove it. While this is not a concern to me, I rarely (except for Optical drives) use onboard, I realize I’m in the minority for now, since two decades in this industry has taught me to NEVER USE the Fake or BIOS RAID, used an independent controller)

Would the above build have worked with two Xeon E-5 2687Xeon E-5 2687Intel Xeon E5-2687W 3.1 GHz - 8-core?

Re: ECC RAM, I had a policy that if asked we would build without ECC RAM, but if anyone selected anything but, they would be excluded from our data warranty. I think I'm removing that. Also, I would go minimum 128GB, but 32, using 8GB sticks is acceptable, depending what you're running. Good luck if you're not yet done.
 

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I have completed the build but I had problems,
-The builder burned out the motherboard. RMA (arrived)
-One stick of RAM was inoperable. Advance RMA (in route)
-The builder burned out my original 1 terabyte hard drive
-(COMPLETE DATA LOSS) A lot of precious memories and client photo's gone forever.
-I bought 3 different power supplies, One is returned but the original build supply can't be refunded. (Must Sell)

So alot of problems. Corsair is not on my favorites list right now with the PSU and RAM issues. We did decided to go with normal RAM and not worry about the ECC and etc.

Build Review:

VERY SATISFIED.
-Uploading all my programs took only minutes, on average 5 mins or less.
Autocad and the Product Design suite of numerous programs took 35 minutes normally that download takes longer and I removed alot of programs off the list.
-None of my projects I've looked at come close to taxing the current RAM of 23 GB
-Remarkably stable running Windows 7 PRO

I've yet to attempt any rendering test.
I'm considering upgrading to two GTX 770 4GB Cards at the end of the year.
 

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Hi there, I would like to know if I can use 2 different Xeon (E5-2630 v2 + E5-2650 v2) with the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS? or does it have to be the same exact one?

Thanks for your help.
 

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Saquist, I say this with respect and with no intent to offend you, but I need to ask, what are you doing with a Z9 Server mainboard, or what is often used as a High End mainboard for a Workstation, typically to deploy VMware. I usde a number of those boards, typical config is 1-GPU, 1-Onboard "ROC" RAID Controller, 256GB of ECC RAM and you can Thin Provision VM's to your heart's content.

"I'm not sure what the 4x8 RAM means in terms of the modules or how much each stick is and how that will apply to each CPU and so I still am not sure of what I need"

8 x 4 =32. The Z9 allows you to go as high as 256GB, BUT only using ECC, which is the only RAM you should ever use in such a machine. With your 2 580's (still puzzled why a Z9) buy 4 8GB Modules to get to 32GB of RAM.

But, the faster your memory speed is and the larger amount of memory, the more likely hood you will blue screen out.

1 SINGLE Memory bit can fail and cause a (Hard error) and crash your system, while the same bit can flip and cause a soft error corrupting your entire system.

If you intent is to use a system for Gaming, then you should have selected a single CPU board, and use no more that 8, max 16gb of very good quality RAM, like Rip Jaw, or Corsair's Dominator 2,133 17,200.

Also, cannot update to 96GB of RAM. Read the specs:

Visit this link and rwad the specs on the RAM:

http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z9PED8_WS/specifications/

8 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR3 2133(O.C.)/2000(O.C.)/1866*/1600/1333/1066 MHz ECC, Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory (ECC that is Un-Buffered is NOT ECC.

*For Registered Memory, Max. 256GB DDR3 1866/1600/1333/1066/800 MHz

The memory must be ECC Registered, below the above specs, that's the only way you get above 64GB, although you'd need to explain what you would need that much RAM. 4GB x 4GB or 2GB x 2GB to maintain 4 channel with no ECC would be your best bet, but I'd really need to understand what you intend to use your build for.

good luch whatever you do.


(well, you can, but it' would be useless. If you want to get to 96, then start with 2 x 32GB Modules. and to fo to 64, you'd need to throw away the 32GB. However, if you really (for whatever reason) want to get to 64GB, them you'd but 16x4, leaving the remaning slots open..