Thoughts on a 3k Build?

tomcellwheel

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Good afternoon all! First off I'd like to apologize if I'm posting in the wrong area. Secondly, I'll be using the "How to ask for upgrade advice" thread as a format.

I'd like to start off by saying that I'm finally venturing into the world of desktops (Have been an ASUS Gaming Laptop fanboi for a while :p) which unfortunately means I'm not quite up to date on hardware/etc. I've had a couple recommendations given to me so far, but I'm always curious to see what others can come up with. I can provide the previous builds given to me upon request if needed.

Now, onto the format:

Approximate Purchase Date: I am in no rush, as my laptop is still working fine. Just wanting an upgrade in the near future. I'd say I may start purchasing parts in 3-6 month time frame at latest, and one month at earliest.

Budget Range: $3,000 USD. I can go a bit higher if you believe a part or two are worth the extra change.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Heavy Gaming of all sorts (BF4/Skyrim/all that jazz)/Quark Coin Mining/Movies/general.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes. Suggestions for this will be highly appreciated, as I've not much experience with actually having control over a monitor, as you can imagine!

Parts to Upgrade: None. Fresh Desktop to be built.

Do you need to buy OS: Negative. Have a copy of windows 7 ready to be used.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Anywhere you deem trustworthy. I normally look at Newegg/TigerDirect.

Location: Rapid City, South Dakota, USA

Parts Preferences: I've always been an Intel Fanboi, but alot of buddies swear by AMD. Can I get some insight to everyones thoughts? I've also been a big fan of the GTX series, and i hear the 780TI's are the best benchmark wise at the moment, but I'm open to all suggestions, just please provide a reasoning so I can further my understanding of parts/benchmarks.

Overclocking: Have only played around with it years ago, would like to re-learn, so potentially/sure.

SLI or Crossfire: What now? I've heard of SLI, but crossfire?

Your Monitor Resolution: No preference. Wanting opinions of what you all have found works well.

Additional Comments: As far as a case, I'd like something that looks a little more "gamish" as I've always had normal towers when I did own a desktop. However, neon lights and whatnot is not a necessity unless I've got the budget to throw it in for fun. I would like a quiet PC, as the noise from my G74SX is what is making me upgrade in the first place (Asus's worse fan placement ever in a laptop, I personally believe.) Gaming will be the main aspect to the computer. I'd like this computer to last me a few years (if possible) or have the potential of easy-upgrading. I'm also going to be looking for a keyboard and Speakers, but this doesn't have to be included in the 3k budget! A future upgrade per-se, but would still love opinions on your favorites.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: As previously mentioned, my Asus G74SX's hardware is wearing, and the noise is getting mind-boggling. I've tried cleaning it several times, but the construction of the laptop is ill-prepared for someone who fears breaking anything they touch such as myself.


If you have made it this far, thank you for reading and any potential post/suggestions you may have for me! Looking forward to seeing everyones builds/comments on posted builds.

All the best,
Tom

P.S. Forgot to mention my only request is that it have 16GB RAM, and preferably be able to run any game without hiccuping/max settings without flinching if at all possible.





 
you can start from here
i7 4770K
dual Radeon R9 290X (if you go coin mining, obviously AMD Radeon GPU)
2560 x 1440 gaming Monitor

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.47 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($579.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($579.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($549.98 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2866.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-03 23:47 EST-0500)
 

tomcellwheel

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Wanted to note that Gaming comes before the mining. The mining is more of a side-hobby that i have going while at work. So if theres cards more suited for gaming, I'd definitely prefer those ;)

Thanks for the help so far guys!

Edit: Noticed I put the mining before gaming, I thought it meant from most intensive to least intensive, not my personal priorities, sorry!
Should be Gaming/Mining/and so on.

Edit 2: Should probably also mention the Mining is CPU based for quark coins, not GPU.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($180.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($156.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.93 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($574.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($574.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($549.98 @ Best Buy)
Keyboard: Logitech MK710 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2977.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-04 03:00 EST-0500)
 

tomcellwheel

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So many options now XD

Would it be wrong of me to ask for a reasoning on X part vs Y part in the respective builds? Such as why an Intel i5 in flippis build? Is that because of the assumption of a potential overclock? From what Radeon/LucasZ has said so far, the 780TIs are indeed the best option for gaming-wise (correct?) so I think I'll stick with a dual option for them. (However, a buddy mentioned that two Geforce 760s would be just as good for "bang for buck" ratio. Thoughts?) How important is the cooler, I see the last two builds are sticking with the Noctua. Any particular reason for the Hyper EVO Radeon?

Again, thanks for all help thus far everyone. Its greatly appreciated. Hoping to be able to optimize between everyone, and the more comments I get about X part over Y part will help me understand how hardware really works.
 



Intel Core i5-4670K and Intel Core i7-4770K are both arguably the best gaming cpu out there. I suggested Noctua NH-D14 because i never saw it at $60. The best air cpu cooler hands down. AMD R9 290 & 290x and NVIDIA GTX780 & 780ti are all strong contenders: You cannot do better than that. You just have to verify real price because pcpartpicker.com is great but not perfect. no virtual coin with nvidia though. And no reference AMD cooler for R9 290 & 290x: You have to get third party ones (just read the article below).

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Ref. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-and-290x,3728-5.html
 

vmN

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For gaming:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($699.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.04 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1759.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-04 04:03 EST-0500)

For mining:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Sempron 145 2.8GHz Single-Core Processor ($38.72 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 1GB (1 x 1GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($12.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk ReadyCache 32GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.95 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.23 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1197.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-04 04:03 EST-0500)



Total: $2957.42

This right here allow the best gaming and mining.
280x is the best mining GPU.
780ti is the best gaming GPU.
It would be foolish not going with 2 PC's.
 

tomcellwheel

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Aye, but again, my mining is more of just a hobby too see (If anything, I'll buy a actual mining machine such as the prospero X-1/X-3 from blackarrow if I'm going to get into bitcoin mining).

As of now, I'm just testing mining with quark coins, which uses you CPU over your GPU, and I doubt I'd try for bitcoins at all on the PC, as I would have either a separate system or dedicated machine for such things. Would want to wait until at least march/April to see how said machines are going to affect bit-coins anyway.

So overall, lets cut mining out completely from this project, and say its just a dedicated Gaming CPU. We can play with mining rigs in a month or two ;)

Does that change anyones builds up?

Edit: Again, thanks for all the help so far guys! Loving the opinions, lets see if we can get a few more and if we can optimize from there.