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Hey guys.
I m thinking to buy a new psu for my pc & little future upgrades. I m from India.
SO which psu is better
1. Seasonic G series 650w psu @ Rs 8600
2. Seasonic X Series 650w psu @ Rs 7800
3. Seasonic M12II 650w psu @ Rs 6400

I read many reviews but when i saw comparison on seasonic website then little confused.

What is the main job of -12V rail.?
& which is better lower Ampere or higher...?

X series -12V rail passes 0.5A & G series -12V rail passes 0.3A.

What is this tight voltage regulation.?
& which is better higher or lower..?

X series have +- 1% & G series have +- 3%.

So guys which is better choice for next gen broadwell..?
If no one then can i go with cheaper one & save some cash....?
Thanks in advance
 
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Yeah that board is a bit costly but has all the premium features and much more stable if you plan decide to overclock in the future. I opted this board as you mentioned your budget to be 40k. you can chose any 990FX chipset based board from either MSI, Gigabyte or Asus.

Warranty service may be faulty from place to place but ASUS is still the world leader in motherboard making. Their high end boards very rarely become faulty.

You can choose FX6300. Its a very good CPU for its price and meant for budget...
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Seasonic PSU hierarchy is:

X series > G series > M12 / S12

X series PSUs are one of the best PSU brands of the market. You can buy them with your eyes closed.
X-series PSUs are fully compatible with current gen Haswell CPUs. So it will also be compatible with broadwell i guess.
 
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I know but when i read about needed low voltage at sleep mode of haswell then both psus are good but when checked broadwell then i was forced to think again bcs G series -12v rail passes 0.3A lowest. So i put this question here.
 
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lower voltage regulation is better and it means that the specified voltage remains in the range of its specified values + or - the regulation value. You can go the cheapest one since it is a brand PSU but I think many here will tell you not to skimp on the psu and go with the more expensive psus but I don't think performance wise it will make much of a difference based on personal experience upgrading from a less expensive psu to an 80+ bronze certified one. Since they are all 650 watt there is no difference in watts.


Broadwell is yet to be released, if you are planning to base your system on a Broadwell chip then maybe you are rushing buying this psu, maybe you should wait until the chip are released and until you have decided on a build since other components especially the GPU should be very important in your choice regarding what psu you will be buying for your system.
 
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Intel is planning to change the power delivery system in the broadwell CPUs w.r.t. the current gen Haswell. So, it will definitely need a new mobo although the socket design will remain the same i.e LGA 1150.

But unfortunately there are very few information available regarding the actual requirement of the PSUs. Its very hard to predict what the future will bring and I think its better to wait for the broadwell to be released rather than taking a decision now.
 
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Sorry for late reply friends. My internet connection is not good as urs.
So one more question how many years this haswell can stand in field.
I m going to buy i5- 4570 with h87 mobo & 8gb ram.

Thank you.
 
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If you are picking an i5 why not go with something that can hyperthread instead?
Scratch that the quad core Haswell generation i5 processors can't hyperthread so keeping that in mind I think if this is a gaming rig the 4570 will be great and it will be great for other purposes as well. What are you going to be using your PC for? also one more thing the 4570 doesn't OC.
 
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My friend I had a pentium d 945 rig for almost 7 years, so the answer to your questions depends entirely on what kind of performance you are expecting from your rig and what are you going to be using it for. There is a review in technical reader that you may be interested in: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/intel-core-i5-4570-1160019/review
I think as far as gaming go that is a pretty more than decent processor but if you use a lot of multi-threaded heavy application then you may consider the i7-4770.
 
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With that 4570 you will be safe for another 1-2 years. After that you may need a CPU upgrade to cope with the latest games, GPU and other programs.
However you can keep it for another year or so if you buy an unlocked k-series processor now. so that you will be able to overclock it when needed and get some more juice out of it.
 
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Photoshop and CAD will run much better with more cores like 6 or 8. Even the newer games are also being designed to run better with more cores.
You can consider AMD FX 8320 for that purpose. Its an eight core processor and benchmarkwise pretty ahead of even 4670k. 8320 is also cheaper than 4570 and is an unlocked processor.

8320 will give you more value for money and will balance nicely between all of your work and games.
 
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Did you decide what graphic card you will buy?

 
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Yea u r right.
I was also planning for fx 6300. But many people said me AMD dont have longer life & cant get usb 3.0 &may be also not sata 6.
So i decided going for i5- 4570 or i7-4770.
I'll buy gtx 770 but later. At the present time i'll stick with nvidia GT 8400GS my old gpu.
I m not fps hungry i just play games on playable fps & no metter low resolution.
 
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That's all rubbish. AMD processors have no shorter life than intel CPUs and usb 3.0 and sata6 are also possible with them.
If you can mention your budget in INR and the parts you need in that budget, i may find you a good deal.
 
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That is not true. I have msi 990fxa-gd65 mobo and it has 3.0 USB and sata 6. What the fx series boards don't support is the PCIe 3.0 so if that matters much to you then AMD is not an option. But from what I read it doesn't matter that much performance wise installing PCIe 3.0 in ver 2.0 x16 slots and the performance decrease in negligible to nothing. Like Muku said the 8320 is much cheaper than i5-4570 and it probably outperforms it in multithreaded applications by a long shot. And also spending less on the CPU will allow you to buy the 770 GTX sooner to replace your GT 8400GS which is certainly not suitable for playing any modern title at all!

 
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My total budget is around Rs40000.
AnEwG its not true.
i played Black ops 2 on GT 8400gs forget resolution before my pc stoped working. B.o.2 is the main reason of mu old pc shut off lol.
 
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And what parts do you need for that 40k? does that include your graphics card budget?
 
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CPU:
http://www.flipkart.com/amd-3-5-ghz-am3-fx-8320-8-core-piledriver-processor/p/itmdgh4ctftqmpfd?pid=PSRDGH4CZHPW2VX8&srno=b_3&ref=127f35bf-24ee-4372-a93b-267288446699

Mobo (has both SATA6 and USB 3.0):
http://www.flipkart.com/m5a99fx-pro-r2-0-motherboard/p/itmdgb8cmnthbhhm?pid=MBDDGB8Y5BGVYGHX&srno=b_20&ref=b5fd3d54-3a74-4b2b-8b19-e53f33a99342

RAM:
http://www.flipkart.com/g-skill-sniper-ddr3-8-gb-2-x-4-gb-pc-ram-f3-12800cl9d-8gbsr/p/itmd2rysgnzymxvq?pid=RAMD2RYRXMDFERF6&srno=b_10&ref=861d7b2f-325e-4ea0-a43e-5f94f8be34e0

PSU (600 Watt for your future upgrade to GTX 770 and possible overclocking):
http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-cmpsu-600cxv2uk-600-watts-psu/p/itmd5xz4qhbpvvzk?pid=PSUD5XZ4EFXTQNG7&srno=b_8&ref=0553b786-1687-415e-9f94-e805197b9393

DVD-RW:
http://www.flipkart.com/hp-dvd1260i-uh06c-dvd-burner-internal-optical-drive/p/itmdnnh8m2nydhfb?pid=IODDA65FGV5BZ3P2&srno=b_4&ref=c20a01c2-73ee-470b-93c3-ae88bdf9b23b

Total around 34.5k

Cabinet:
Flipkart doesn't sell cases, You may have to get that locally.
 
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It has a memory bandwidth of 6.4 GB/sec XD. You must have been playing it on pretty low settings :p
 
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Hey
Nice build but isnt mobo too costly.?
One thing more in these days Asus have really bad warranty replacement.
Can i stick with fx 6300 & little lower end mobo & a good gpu like gtx 650ti boost or gtx 660 or gtx 760 now ...?
 
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What resolution will you playing at? If you don't play at high resolutions (1080p and higher) then 650ti and 660 will be perfect and 760 will be an overkill! As for the mobo if you are not going to SLI or crossfire then a single or dual PCIe mobo will be cheaper. Hell you can even buy the board I have MSI 990fxa-gd65 or even the 990fxa-gd80 which is better and you can use the extra slot to install a SSD in the future.
 
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