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February 4, 2014 1:17:02 PM

I need a new more powerful graphics card to satisfy me and my needs
What would be the difference between 1 660 Ti and SLI 660 Ti?
If you think that is bad, should I switch to an AMD graphics? I have never tried them..
Im only using 1 monitor.

GA-990XA-UD3
AMD FX 8350 4.0GHz
660 Ti (Asus OC Edition)
Samsung 250 GB Evo Edition
Seidon 240m

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a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2014 1:52:12 PM

If you can get another at a good price, it's not a bad option. SLI 660 Ti will be vastly better than a single 660 Ti. People will say 'be careful about driver issues' blah blah blah, but nvidia keeps things pretty up to date, and I've never had a single issue with drivers or micro-stuttering or anything else with my SLI rig. I'd go SLI before I'd go AMD, but that's just me.

What PSU are you running?
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a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2014 1:55:17 PM

PSU?
Budget?
Resolution?
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February 4, 2014 1:57:22 PM

GX Bronze 750W

btw 1920x1080 single monitor, budget is around 300 E
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a c 162 U Graphics card
February 4, 2014 1:57:55 PM

What card I recommend depends partly on your BUDGET and how much you can SELL your current card for.

My advice is either:

1) Buy another GTX660Ti (same model preferably or similar frequency and same VRAM amount), or
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=113

*I generally prefer a SINGLE GPU anyway to avoid Crossfire or SLI issues such as stutter, RUNT frames etc. Don't just look at the raw BENCHMARK numbers, there's more to it than that. SMOOTHNESS of game play is most important.

2) SELL your current card and buy a much better card like the GTX780 (i.e. EVGA 780 967MHz base with ACX cooling)

PRICES are much higher than I thought they would be for a new 660Ti (about $300) so if you got $150 for your GTX660Ti then you'd have $450 to play with.

You also likely have 2GB of VRAM on that GTX660Ti and the GTX780 would have 3GB. Not a big deal today, but in a year or two that extra Video RAM might matter.

So, my recommendation (USA link): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp42784k...

What about AMD?
There are Pros and Cons. AMD has Mantle, but NVidia has G-Sync (requires new monitor), Shadowplay (hardware game recording), and PhysX. If you have any interest in AMD then be careful what card you pick as some have heat issues causing thermal throttling. The ASUS and Sapphire Toxic R9-280X cards are ones I've recommended:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280xdc2t...

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-112210...

Summary:
- Pros and Cons
- recommend selling current card
- recommend R9-280X (Sapphire Toxic or Asus DCU2), or EVGA 780 967MHz w/ACX
- *R9-280X cards are cheaper, great performance, but again Pros/Cons
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February 4, 2014 2:04:34 PM

Would I be able to play World of Warcraft on full settings without any frames dropping?
With an SLI of 660 TI that is..
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a c 162 U Graphics card
February 4, 2014 2:08:04 PM

Update:
BOTH the R9-280X and GTX780 models I mention have IDENTICAL VALUE. More info:

I couldn't get the R9-280X and GTX780 cards I wanted on the same graph, but compare them to the TITAN cards for reference on two graphs. These are SUMMARY BENCHMARKS of close to 20 games so a VERY accurate indication of performance:

Asus R9-280X: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_280X_Direct_...

EVGA GTX780 SC: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_SC_ACX_...

At 2560x1600, the GTX780 SC model is 100/95 versus Titan, but for the R9-280X it's 100/121 at the same spec.

*That comes to a 27% difference at this resolution on average.

**Price difference is 510/400 though makes the VALUE EQUAL between these cards, thus if BUDGET is more important get the Asus R9-280X (or Sapphire Toxic) but if you can afford it get this exact GTX780.
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February 4, 2014 2:10:57 PM

I am using a single monitor, 1920x1080 max resolution
So where are we getting at here?
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a c 162 U Graphics card
February 4, 2014 2:18:06 PM

mkextremer said:
I am using a single monitor, 1920x1080 max resolution
So where are we getting at here?


At 1920x1080 it compares like THIS:
(100/97) X (121/100) = 24.7%

Thus the EVGA GTX780 967MHz card is about 25% faster than the Asus R9-280X card. Your CPU will affect these scores somewhat depending on the game but we'll just ignore that for now.

The VALUE of either card is EQUAL, so it really just comes down to budget and the other Pros and Cons I mention (AMD Mantle; NVidia Shadowplay, G-Sync, PhysX).

*It's important to note that the VALUE may be equal, however the GTX780 is a much bigger upgrade when compared to the GTX660Ti. It's about a 25% improvement going from the GTX660Ti to the Asus R9-280X but a 56% improvement going to the GTX780 (EVGA 967MHz model).

Put another way, let's say you got 40FPS in a game. It varies, but on average that translates to:

GTX660Ti: 40FPS
Asus R9-280X: 50FPS
EVGA GTX780 967MHz: 62.5FPS
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February 4, 2014 2:23:07 PM

Would the difference be huge between 660 Ti SLI and the GTX780 in performance?
Cause it would be really hard to sell my card in my country.. >.> (Macedonia)
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a c 162 U Graphics card
February 4, 2014 2:30:04 PM

mkextremer said:
Would the difference be huge between 660 Ti SLI and the GTX780 in performance?
Cause it would be really hard to sell my card in my country.. >.> (Macedonia)


I don't have any more time, but you can look at the results for these games:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/gefor...

NVidia SLI is pretty good now. For modern games that support SLI you will average better than GTX780 performance. Look at the PERCENTAGE improvement and compare to the numbers I quoted earlier.

Assume a 50% improvement with the GTX780 model I recommended over your current setup. Again, your CPU and game will affect these results but you should easily beat this on average (in some cases over 80% improvement).

Metro 2033, for example went from 31FPS to 57FPS.

*SUMMARY:
Based on what you've said, I recommend getting the EXACT SAME MODEL of GTX660Ti that you already have.
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February 4, 2014 2:52:18 PM

You don't need the exact same card, do whatever is cheapest, just make sure you get the same model (GTX 660 Ti) and the same amount of memory.
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February 6, 2014 10:14:30 PM

ACTechy said:
You don't need the exact same card, do whatever is cheapest, just make sure you get the same model (GTX 660 Ti) and the same amount of memory.


What's going on with PRICES of these models?
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=113&sort=a7

$415 for his Asus GTX660Ti ?

Cheapest is a Zotac version for $260, with the better MSI models being closer to $300. ??? You can get an Asus GTX770 for $320...

I discussed the Pros and Cons of selling his current card and getting a GTX780, so I think he really needs to look at how much he could get for his card on E-Bay.

Obviously buying his same card for $415 is crazy. I just assumed pricing would be reasonable. Silly me.
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