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no mantle benchmarks compareing nvidia cards and image quality? why?

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February 4, 2014 7:27:22 PM

its not just about frames per second. there could be things turned off and on in direct x vs mantle. also some proprietary NVidia functions obviously aren't working in mantle. already people are talking about fog draw distance and other image issues with mantle. fps means nothing if your not playing at the same settings and image quality.

Also it is a new bf4 patch, it may you would expect have fixes that also improve performance on NVidia and amd non mantle cards. So wheres a complete comparison so we can see if were talking apples to apples.

ill laugh if the 19 percent some places are saying is because the quality of the image is turned down plus the percentage of improvement you would expect on any patch.

I do notice a lot of the benchmarks seem pegged to a specific scenario, like lower resolutions, really old processers with brand new cards. lets get something mainstream huh.

anyone else want some real comparisons or are we buying this whole thing with what they are giving us?

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February 4, 2014 7:39:15 PM

They just started doing benchmarks this week. It usually takes them more than a week to do complete reviews on products. You may find some IQ comparisons later if there appears to be notable differences (I've seen some differences in screenshots). Give it time.

I doubt the differences in performance has anything to do with IQ, though they may be some IQ differences. It seems apparent the biggest differences is how Mantle is light on the CPU and multi-threads very well.
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February 4, 2014 8:26:54 PM

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there were image quality "optimizations" (read "cheats") baked into the Mantle mix. In the past, AMD has been roundly criticized for inflating their performance numbers at the expense of image quality. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf1...
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/exploring_ati_imag...

And recently, we have seen them deliver cherry-picked cards to review sites that significantly outperformed retail samples.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-drive...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-cros...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-revie...

The overall picture is one of a company that has a history of twisting perceptions and duping consumers in order to sell video cards. Why would it be any different this time?
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February 4, 2014 8:46:34 PM

While there may be some IQ optimizations, it seems apparent that most the FPS increases come when the CPU is bottlenecking. When it isn't, there seems to be very little improvements.
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February 5, 2014 12:42:44 AM

Mantle is just coming out so i bet what you want will come eventually. Personally i'm interested to know hiw mantle compared to directx in deep analysis but i think that have to wait until amd release public documebtstion on mantle later this year or next year. If you want to know how amd cards fare against nvidia card with mantle you can go to tech report. They have benchmark for 290X in mantle vs 780Ti.
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February 6, 2014 8:48:25 AM

yea I checked that out thanks, bout time someone had some comparison, looking for more in depth but I guess well have to wait
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