Advice on gaming pc (First build)

taha2001

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Hi guys is my build good for gaming?
Cpu:Core i5 4670k
Mobo:Asus Z87-A
Cpu cooler:Thermal take Cpu cooler jing 120mm or Cooler master hyper 212 Evo or Cooler Master Cpu Liquid Cooler Seidon 120V.
Gpu:Asus geforce gtx 650ti
PSU: Corsair tx850
Case:Cooler master n400
Storage: Western Digital caviar blue 500gb
Memory: Kingston DDR3 8gb pc1600..
Guys should i change something or is it fine??Also will i need thermal paste and what does it do?Should i get liquid coling or air cooler??
 

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I don't see the need for the 850W psu. A 500W-550W should be fine

The rest looks fine

To the questions:

Thermal paste basically increases thermal conductivity and yes it is needed. The stock Intel cooler comes with it pre applied. The hyper evo comes with a small tube that will need to be manually applied

A liquid cooler is only really needed for really high overclocks. The hyper evo would do just fine for mid range overclocks
 

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its a good build but you can have some changes, i don't know about your budget but i will try to make reasonable changes.
mobo: you may want to upgrade it to MSI gd65, Asus z87-plus or asus z87 pro ( this change isn't the most important part)
gpu: if you can get better gpu like something from the new 7th generation ( this may add +100$ )
cpu cooler: cooler master hyper evo 212 is a good option it also looks good
psu: this a really good psu but if you consider going for a cheaper psu it will help you to upgrade other parts, lets say 600watt to 700wat psu(good quality) will be enough for this build even if you go with one high end graphics card.
storager: small ssd will help in booting and one or two games.
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thermal paste: many coolers come with pre-applied thermal paste so you may not need to buy it, thermal paste job is to transfer heat between your cooler and cpu because sometimes there are some micro-cracks that may affect the transfer if you don't use thermal paste
liquid vs air:
high end air cooler like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
preforms really close to all in one ( closed loop ) liqued cooling like corsair h100i
but if you are thinking about custom water cooling this another different story with a budget of its own :p
 

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cpu cooler will cool the cpu only and you don't need to buy a fan for it, it comes with everything you need to make it work.
to cool other parts you need case fans, many cases comes with fans but low quality if you really wanna change them, there are so many options in the market.

heat sink is a part of the cpu cooler many refers to heat sink and the cpu cooler to be the same thing

 

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Liquid coolers don't use any fans, apart from the one's on the radiator. Basically you will have a water block that sits over your CPU which conducts the heat (no fans)

The liquid cooler has some advantages like quieter operation, better thermal conductivity over air cooling, but it's not something that you have to have

The hyper evo would do a pretty good job at it and you don't have to worry about leakages which could happen if not installed and maintained correctly

These are all aimed at overclocking, I assume you are going to ?, if not the stock intel cooler and a non k i5 processor would be fine
 
I agree with wisecracker. Unless you plan on upgrading the graphics card ASAP, than you'll be disappointed with the performance. you could save some money going with an i3 and use the extra 80-90 on getting an R9 270X or maybe GTX 760 and get WAY better performance in games at higher graphics settings. Or you could drop down to a decent 650W power supply saving around 70.00 and do the same.
 

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Hey thnx dude but is asus z87-a not worth my money?? Actually I have $145 for the mobo.. my total budget for the rig is $1000 without monitor and ssd does not fit in my budget.. yea I should get a 500 to 550 w psu and put some money on gpu.
 

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Thanks I should get a 550 w psu.. can u tell me a 500 to 550 w haswell certified psu??
 

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actually asus z87-a is pretty good thats why I said it's not important change.
but gpu change well really make a difference
 

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You can look through this list of all haswell certified psu's
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the hardest question to answer because technology always change and get better, if you get better gpu you can run for 2 years but not on best graphics option but you can always go SLI and get another gpu.
to know more about how long will you be able to run latest games, I advise you to check old cpus performance like the 2nd gen and gpus like the 4th or 5th gen this will give you an idea about how long. and btw you won't notice a huge difference between 2nd and 4th gen in cpu maybe 10% performance and better power consumption that applies to gpus too.
unless there is a whole new tech to change the industry which is not likely to happen soon
EDIT:
one more thing I forgot about ssd
if you can't afford one, check hybrid hdd/ssd combo
 
If you want a 'serious' gaming rig for a number of years you need to start with your video card ... a GTX 770 or R9 280X should be under consideration -- and I wouldn't worry (or even plan) for a dual-card expansion because we are on the cusp of 20nm dies in 2014 and 14nm in 3-4 years ...

not to mention DDR4 motherboards.

Get on the Egg E-Blast mailing list and snag a few bargains to save $$$ ... troll the Egg combo deals for mobos/CPUs. The bottom line is your motherboard and CPU while important are not the primary driver of high-end gaming (that would be your video card, of course).

Page through the i3 combos ... or look at something like the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P AM3+ with the FX-6300 Piledriver for $205.

That's generally the ratio you should consider -- spend twice as much on your video card as your CPU/mobo.



 

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That should be faster than the 650ti, though, it is quite an old card. Hope you're not overpaying for it as the older cards are usually priced higher than the newer equivalent one's

If you have a budget for the card, feel free to state it
 
Hi guys is my build good for gaming?

No. You need to double (if not triple) your video card budget ...

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UNLESS, your goal is to play at low-medium detail settings at 1920x1080 ...

 
nvidia tends to have more frequent driver updates and fewer issues with drivers, but AMD cards are good cards too. Strictly in terms of performance the two are pretty much neck and neck at most price points. Some benchmarks will be "won" by nvidia, others by AMD. The top tier performance segment belongs to nvidia, but so few people buy those cards anyways it is essentially for bragging rights. At the high end the 280X vs 770 was pretty even. the 280X typically performed better at higher resolutions while the 770 was faster at lower resolutions with both cards being similar at 1080p.

I wouldn't worry about AMD vs Nvidia if I were you. Speaking strictly from a performance stand point.