i5 OCing issue

Malkeur

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I followed the guide on http://www.overclock.net/t/1323214/overclocking-i5-3570k-using-asus-p8z77-v-lx on how to overclock (and that's almost already what I was doing anyhow.) - I tried 4.2 to start with. It froze on booting into windows. Went to 4.0. It booted, blue screened almost immediately. Tried 3.8, wouldn't boot. Started to think this was a settings issue or something, so I turned everything back to their defaults and used the 'OC Tuner' feature on the motherboard I'm using (an asus p8z77-v LX).

I'm running an i5 3570k with a 212 hyper evo cooler in a storm CM stryker case. I was at 30C when it was crashing. I thought maybe my RAM timings were wrong so I put them to 1600, didn't help, 1333, didn't help.

I ran the OC tuner and it told me my target would be 4.2 ghz and 1854? ram - but when I check my clock speeds, it says I'm still at 3.4 ghz and at 18xx ram. So I'm not sure what's going on. Any ideas? Maybe I did something wrong?
 
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I glanced at that link and while that guide isn't bad, it's not the most detailed I've seen.

If your using cpuz or something it will show you the current clock state, not necessarily the max unless under load so keep that in mind.

With regard to getting a better oc, I know that using suites can be easy but they tend to not be that great (more heat, lower clock) vs a manual oc which gets you lower voltages, thus lowering heat and higher head room for a stronger oc (higher GHz) which is the whole point in getting that best performance right?

So, start at the 2:45 mark on this video: http://youtu.be/UCIWTX-jy9A
I'm sure you've seen Linus somewhere before, if you haven't, he really knows his stuff. I don't agree with him 100% all of the...

jnewegger23

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I glanced at that link and while that guide isn't bad, it's not the most detailed I've seen.

If your using cpuz or something it will show you the current clock state, not necessarily the max unless under load so keep that in mind.

With regard to getting a better oc, I know that using suites can be easy but they tend to not be that great (more heat, lower clock) vs a manual oc which gets you lower voltages, thus lowering heat and higher head room for a stronger oc (higher GHz) which is the whole point in getting that best performance right?

So, start at the 2:45 mark on this video: http://youtu.be/UCIWTX-jy9A
I'm sure you've seen Linus somewhere before, if you haven't, he really knows his stuff. I don't agree with him 100% all of the time but most of the time and he is easy to follow for most. In this vid I agree with him a lot.

Here's some basic principles to think about to make your oc experience better:
1. Stability. You need to know what causes a crash. When you change 2 variables at the same time like both the cpu and the memory clocks, you from a simply scientific standpoint cannot know if it was 1 or the other or the combination or something else like a bad driver. So, first, make sure you know your cpu oc is stable BEFORE playing with your memory clock.
2. Memory OC: It takes a lot more than putting in the xmp file and selecting the next highest setting however slow your increments are. You need to run a lot of tests and know how to play with the voltages, timings (latency), clock to mention a few and what you get may not be worth the crashes to find. This can take a lot of work so I'd put this off for now

Step 1, getting your cpu oc stable is your first, main and for now only focus. Get it to where it can run prime95 for a few hours, intel burn test passes, unigine heaven keeps getting higher scores without any artifacts, hangs or crashes and then you can call your oc semi-stable. Then, play your favorite games at the highest settings that it will run on without hanging, crashing etc, watch videos, open and close them rapidly, whatever you normally do and if you don't get bsod's etc. then you can say, I know my cpu oc is pretty rock solid. Then and only then when you have the time, energy, and focus do consider playing with your memory to get that extra last bit of performance.

For people like Linus and me, it's not worth playing with the memory speeds. Just get the better stick. Also most cpus work with memory at a max speed of DDR3 1600 if you read the spec sheets so theoretically faster RAM than that for the most part is kind of a waste. (To the trolls reading this, i reiterate I said "for the most part" I'm well aware of other advantages).

So, I'm sure you get my point by know. When playing with tech or anything requiring any type of methodical approach, never play with more than 1 variable at a time and know what order to go in. You didn't know before but now you do. Hope this helps! Have fun!

Also, try this guide:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1291703/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboards/0_100
It's for an i7 but a lot of the same ideas apply to your setup. Just adjust carefully. Good overclocking is for the patient. Impatience at best gets you lucky and even then that's not your probable best oc. Again, have fun and best of luck to you!

Thanks,

Justin S.
 
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jnewegger23

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What kind of video card setup do you have? For most cases 750W should be plenty good but if you planning on going crossfire or sli it depends on the cards; so if you're not planning on SLI for a Titan, your 90% good with that type of psu; just make sure it's a quality one. If you have a lot of questions on that you may need to start a new thread k!
 

Malkeur

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I am still having a problem - I disabled the adaptive thermal stuff, the auto stuff and it's still not letting me bump my frequency over 3.8ghz and it's still making my processors running 'adaptively'.
 

jnewegger23

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For sure. I didn't think to mention that. Updating the bios, once both cooled and stabilized an oc a lot for me. Hope that gets you up and running!

Just make sure you do it at stock settings first so you know if the bios update itself is causing any issues (rare but can happen). Have a copy of the previous bios ready in case of that too!
 

jnewegger23

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Awesome! Glad to hear that! That's a pretty solid air cooler. For testing purposes the mid 80s to low 90s max. You want to avoid throttling your cpu; won't hurt it but not ideal either. I for example have a 247 OC at 4.4GHz with a Vcore of 1.145V +.0085 manual offset. My temps at idle are about 20-30c and at load 50-60c, 78c Max (running prime95 for hours on end and only for a few seconds does it stay that high and goes back down to the high 60s low 70s during stress testing). I've had it run at 4.8GHz at over 1.3V but my temps were in the 90s and I don't recommend that. Good to get a high benchmark score but bad pretty much otherwise. My cpu is an i7 though so your i5 may behave very differently but these are decent guidelines in terms of temps.
 

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