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External enclousure bigger than 25TB (Windows)

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  • Storage
  • Thunderbolt
  • NAS / RAID
  • Lacie
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February 5, 2014 6:10:14 AM

Hello there

I know Lacie has released new external HDDs with 20TB and 25TB, but since they are thunderbolt, they are only for Macs, and Windows machines still can not access them (I know there are thunderbolt PCI boards now, but Lacie does not support Windows on those models)

I would like to know if there is any enclousure for Windows that has 6 to 12 (or more) bays and that I could access thru usb 3.0 and or esata connection, and of course the enclousure must support 4TB HDDs.

Or even a good brand NAS enclousure that I could use esata and or usb 3.0 connection directly to the PC (or notebook, since I prefer a device that does not depend on controller boards, since if I need to use it on a notebook, I would not be able to do so), since mostly models only offers USB and or esata connections for HDD expansions and or backup.

I have seen some devices with a lot of bays, but since mostly of them are NAS, I could not find if they could work using direct connection to the computer (USB 3 and or esata, as I said above).

Any tips about what I could do ?
Money is not a problem regarding my goal to have a big storage unit here (and I could even think about a solution with more than 12 bays), and I would even buy a Mac Pro for photo, video and gfx related stuff, but I really hate the idea to be a "slave" to OS specific hardware, specially regarding something that I would need to use with Windows and Apple machines.

Tks

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a c 133 G Storage
February 5, 2014 6:27:53 AM

I'm guessing GbE is too slow? It's the most interoperable and I've moved >110MB/s over it (using NFS, SMB is a little slower but not a lot).

Many NASs don't have a USB type B connector on them; only host ports. Same goes for eSATA; most are for attaching drives, not attaching as a drive.

What about just stacking a couple of smaller systems? Does it need to be one big volume?
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February 5, 2014 6:30:31 AM

You can get one of these - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You have to remember that when some of these NAS items came out, 4TB drives were not available.... But just because they weren't, doesn't mean that the unit won't support it, like the DLink above. According to Dlink's support page the unit supports "Larger Capacity as they come out" Most companies put out firmware updates that let the product support newer drives.

My 4 Bay Netgear NV+ supports 3TB drives, and I'd be willing to bet I could get 4TB's and they'd show up.
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a c 133 G Storage
February 5, 2014 6:39:15 AM

$7k before drives? Triple redundant PSUs?

I think that might be a bit overkill.
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February 5, 2014 6:55:46 AM

Hi

GbE is fine, but the problem is that I do not want to be 100% dependent of network connection, specially when not using it thru network all time

Freakboi, do you know if this DLINK device could be accessed thru USB and or esata connection ? Or it works only with network ?

I am looking for a device that could be a NAS, but it should be able to connect direct to PC thru USB and or esata too

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a c 133 G Storage
February 5, 2014 6:57:42 AM

You can connect an ethernet device directly to a computer; just set each to static IPs. Quite easy. No hardware required other than one ethernet cable.
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February 5, 2014 7:09:49 AM

That I did not know
Gonna check this dllink device, since it has a lot of bays, so it could get to 60TB with no problems, or even a cheaper NAS from other brand with a lot of bays, but I really like its specs

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a c 133 G Storage
February 5, 2014 7:13:15 AM

People like QNAP, Thecus, and Synology do NASs of at least 12 drives, that can be upgraded to have 10GbE NICs.

That D-Link is very much an enterprise system.

For example, I'd be looking at one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You pay a lot more for going above 8 drives.
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February 5, 2014 1:03:50 PM

I saw this model now and its good that it has expansion modules to use more drives

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February 5, 2014 4:34:16 PM

Qnap and Synology are the two I recommend most frequently.

Just let me warn you that not all drives are intended for use is such large arrays; be sure to get the ones that are. They do cost quite a bit more.
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February 5, 2014 5:30:06 PM

Hi
I checked a local brazilian (my country) to see about HDDs for it
Is WD RE 4TB (Enterprise, SATA III 6Gbps, 7200 rpm, 64mb cache - MPN: WD4000FYYZ) a good choice ?

I used to be a Seagate costumer, and I got disappointed with some later models by them, and I noticed a lot of complains about Seagate new models (I bought a hybrid 750gb for my note, and it was slower than my 5400RPM OEM device...), and this WD one looks good and better than new Seagate models

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a c 971 G Storage
February 5, 2014 7:28:25 PM

its intended for enterprise grade raids such as one you are planning and is a fine choice IMO.
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February 6, 2014 3:18:53 PM

Tks
I found a local authorized WD seller with good warranty (5y), since SGs only have 1-2y here, and I will probaly get those WD model

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a c 84 G Storage
February 6, 2014 8:20:08 PM

crisorlandobr said:
..., but since they are thunderbolt, they are only for Macs, and Windows machines still can not access them...
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Wrong! There are thunderbolt RAID works with MAC and Windows

You can have up to six 20TB or 30TB* volumes under mac or windows by daisy chain them
or as many as you can provide with eSATA port, which costs you lots less.
If you

* 6x Hitachi Ultrastar He6 6TB 7200RPM


crisorlandobr said:
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I would like to know if there is any enclousure for Windows that has 6 to 12 (or more) bays and that I could access thru usb 3.0 and or esata connection, and of course the enclousure must support 4TB HDDs.
Tks


Yes, there is
http://www.datoptic.com/ec/ten-bay-hardware-raid50-jbod...

You can have 2x eSATA, sing eSATA or Single USB3.0 to Ten drives RAID

Unfortunately there is no other manufactures offer the same solution

The transfer rate is over 250MB/s per eSATA, you can create a RAID50 to get double speed 450~500MB
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February 7, 2014 5:13:03 AM

Hi Firewire2, did not know about those devices, gonna check this site later, since the models really look like what I am needing more for a lot of bays

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