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Im looking to upgrade graphics cards any ideas

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February 5, 2014 6:38:03 AM

i need a pci express 2.0 slot card that is powerful at a good price
my board is
MSI 990FXA-GD80 V2 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 6:44:01 AM

Give me how much you are willing to spend? I recently went on a hunt for my new GPU so I know a lot on this topic!
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February 5, 2014 6:48:34 AM

well i have 400$ so i would like to get 2 cards to sli or crossfire or i guess 1 great one lol
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 6:52:40 AM

One good card would be better than two decent cards. Here is a $400 top performer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The 7000 series in no way inferior to the new R9 series, as the R9 series is just a renaming of the older cards (some people don't know that).
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 6:53:01 AM

Prices depend greatly in different locations.

80 bucks - 7750
100 bucks - HD7770 / R7 260
130/150 bucks - GTX 650 TI or 650 TI 2 GB.
200 bucks - GTX 660 / R9 270
250 and up - GTX 760
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February 5, 2014 6:56:30 AM

at the present time i have 2
HIS hd 7770 1gb 128 bit cards on a asrock 970 extrem3 board
but i just got a MSI 990FXA-GD80V2 think my cards might preform better or is it best to replace the cards
and junit i only have pci express 2.0 on the new board i think...
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 6:58:19 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again, two cards in crossfire is not going to be better than one card worth twice as much.
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 6:59:39 AM

That's okay, PCIe is backwards compatable, and actually having two cards would lower your bandwidth per card. So without PCIe 3.0 crossfire would perform worse, in theory.
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February 5, 2014 7:05:33 AM

junit what im saying (asking) is the card you showed me was PCIe 3.0 i dont have 3.0 maybe i just don't understand but isnt PCIe 3.0 newer if thats the case wouldn't that mean PCIe 3.0 cards don't work in PCIe 2.0 slots?
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 7:08:56 AM

I have a PCIe 3.0 card in a PCIe 1.0 slot. (Yeah, I am serious)
It is completely backwards and forwards compatable.
3.0 is two times faster than 2.0 in theory, but NO card on the market is powerful enough to take advantage of the extra speed.
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February 5, 2014 7:17:02 AM

i gotcha thanks for breaking that down it makes since now. so will that XFX Double D FX-795A be held back by the 2.0 slot or not a noticeable amount?
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 7:46:41 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The GTX 770 is a bit cheaper, but more gaming capable then AMD. At the present moment, all AMD cards are with over inflated prices, due to bitecoin/litecoin miners that buy them by the ton.

PCIe 3.0 x16 is neccessery when you SLI or XFire cards like the Titan, 780, 780TI, 290 or 290x. Else, going to PCIe 2.0 x16 or PCIe 3.0 x8 gives a slightly lower performance such as 1-5% depending on the case.
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 7:53:02 AM

The 770 is no more gaming capable than AMD's equivalent offerings. And not even the 780ti can saturate a PCIe 2.0 x8 bus. Literally it doesn't matter and won't matter for YEARS until you can buy a GPU with more power than all the computers in a large office combined.
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 7:59:27 AM

PCIe 3.0 x16 is required to fully harvest GTX 780 SLI, 780TI SLI, 290X SLI or Titan SLI. The difference ranges from anywhere from 1 to 5%.

And no, 7950 is more than a year and a half older than 770. The 770 is around 20% faster overall. The direct competitor of the HD 7950 was the 670. The 770 is a hit on the 7970.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk1...
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February 5, 2014 8:00:37 AM

GTX 760 is a great card...but if you can afford the extra cost (dunno how much is in The USA) the 770 offer better performance, be aware that you would also need at least 600w PSU against 500w of the 760.

I had a 270x like I said in a post a few seconds ago but I sold as it was bloody noisy and was hot (despite was a Sapphire with a pretty decent cooler).
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 8:05:08 AM

Age isn't equal to performance. @Shneiky: And it seems you are only willing to consider top end $800 cards. That isn't what this topic is about.

Anyway, sorry for the link I gave you earlier, it was a misclick.
Here is the right link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 8:10:56 AM

Junit151, Price : Performance is the most important thing. And you seem to ignore the fact that the GTX 770 is 350/360 card where as the card that you proposed is 400+. You also fail to get the fact that the GTX 770 is 20% faster overall for less money then your proposition.

The 800$+ card you are talking about are referring to my explanation about PCIe slots and has nothing to do with this. Go read a bit more, understand some things and maybe practice for a decade or two, like some of us on this forum. Then return to give advice.

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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 8:21:24 AM

Personal attacks only serve to invalidate a point that you are trying to make.
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 8:37:08 AM

Point 1:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk1...

GTX 770 beating 7950 and having slight edge on 7970.

Cheapest 7970 - $400.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheapest 770 - $330.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Point 2:
Your suggestion - $430.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My suggestion - $370
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Point 3:
My suggestion costs $60 less, performs the same/better than yours, consumes less power, it is cooler and quieter. The only reasonable explanation, of why you continue, is that you are a die-hard fanboy, and we hate fanboys here. Most of them are over at Anandtech fighting the AMD/Intel, AMD/nVidia war till infinity and beyond.

Off-topic Point 4:
Arrogance, refusal of arguments right in front of your eyes and the lack of the ability to comprehend what the other communicates, while continuously misleading people does qualify as a sufficient argument to attack another on a basis, questioning their knowledge and/or experience and/or skills.

While neither of us can start throwing diplomas and certificates, the fact that you are TH member for just a month and you do not particularly shine with good knowledge combined with the above mentioned criteria, lead your own arguments to be invalidated.

Off topic Point 5
This forum is not about personal ego, or trying to obtain "guru" whatever status or to beat up personal issues. This forum is about helping people and all of the TH trusty forumers will bash any misinformation or misleading whatsoever. I got bashed as well few times, now it is your turn.
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February 5, 2014 8:53:02 AM

I think AMD is getting a big head because of those two "rubbish containers" is powering.

Then again it is always a personal choice... I always had AMD because I couldn't afford same performance Nvidia Cards....now that I can... I see the differences. The HD 7970 is a brilliant card in terms of raw power but overall I wouldn't buy it especially at that price.
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 8:53:46 AM

Well it was frustrating that you hadn't made an actual suggestion until now. The DCUII 4GB is a good value, I'd go for that:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And being new on this forum doesn't make what I say invalid, and it doesn't mean I'm not a veteran of other PC communities online. There are so many more than just TH you know...
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 8:54:45 AM

Trustdesa said:
I think AMD is getting a big head because of those two "rubbish containers" is powering.


+1 This is the best thing I've heard all day!:lol: 
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February 5, 2014 9:00:40 AM

Junit151 said:
Trustdesa said:
I think AMD is getting a big head because of those two "rubbish containers" is powering.


+1 This is the best thing I've heard all day!:lol: 


Well I think is true :)  Nothing against who plays with consoles, I ditched 15 Years of PC Gaming (well and "kind of PC" gaming) for 5 years with Xbox 360 and came back to it after seeing both new-gen consoles, couldn't be happier especially with all these new fancy Mini ITX cases out there.

AMD cards are good but to be honest technically are not as well build as Nvidia therefore they should not charge as much...a big IMHO of course!

The only thing I am regretting is that I was undecided between 760 and 770 and I could have gone for the 770 instead to get quiet a bit of extra horse power even if I run anything on ultra anyway....

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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 9:04:47 AM

AMD's strong area isn't at the med-high end, like their 280/290X cards. It's in the middle-ground and low end. R9 270X gives some of the best price to performance at around the $200-ish mark!
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February 5, 2014 9:19:34 AM

Junit151 said:
AMD's strong area isn't at the med-high end, like their 280/290X cards. It's in the middle-ground and low end. R9 270X gives some of the best price to performance at around the $200-ish mark!


Strongly agree... I had a 270x and I payed £150.00 for it when it went out in November, however it was really noisy and hot...so I got a MSI 760 two weeks ago which is cool and quiet and I overall prefer the perfomance of this card, I payed £48.00 quid more though but I say justified and, as mentioned earlier that is a good price difference.

When I see a R9 costing like a 780 when it is as noisy as my plane and as hot as my grill then I am not impressed.
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a b U Graphics card
February 5, 2014 9:28:33 AM

You must have gotten a bad card my MSI 270X 4GB is quiet as all hell. (Although I have to leave the side panel off, but that is because it's in an HP Pavilion case with only one 90mm fan:p  )
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