Mid-range gaming Pc as a PS4 Alternative

danny_boi

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All righty, lets get started...
Some background info about me and what I plan to do with this build. I was about to get a Ps4 but then there are all these reviews about how the Ps4 is similar to a Mid-range Gaming pc. After doing some research, the only feature that I really liked about the ps4 was the fact that it would allow "Remote Play" with the ps vita, which is a killer feature for me since i'm getting tired of gaming on a iphone 5. So I plan to get the Nvidia shield to get this feature along with my Pc.

Gaming on the PC would be like Bf4, not to keen on maxing out the settings but would be nice to do on a game like crisis 3.

Must haves:

will get a multi monitor in the future (3 max) but most likely will be on the living room tv right next to my xbox 360.

In order to use my Nvidia shield, these requirements must be met as well
http://shield.nvidia.com/faq
"GPU: GeForce GTX 650 or higher desktop GPU (Notebook GPUs are not supported at this time)
CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz or AMD Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz or higher
System Memory: 4GB or higher
OS: Windows 8 or Windows 7"

An SSD for my OS to be stored on. (Faster boot time)

1tb of hard drive. (Store all media, games)

Will be hooking a gaming headset (tritton ax pro)

Approximate Purchase Date: (e.g.: The end of Feb (maybe delay with parts on sale))

Budget Range: Base Cost ($400 Ps4 + 200 Ps Vita)
Gaming Pc Build ($500-$800) Trying to stay Close to the $600 price range to console if possible.. willing to go a bit over if the performance out-weighs the cost overall..

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: gaming, surfing the internet, listening to music)

Parts Not Required: (since its a full build, i am going to need a keyboard and mouse, as well as a monitor... but that I can decide for myself)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, or where ever you recommend)

Country: (e.g.: trying to stay away from "made in china" parts if possible.. i kinda prefer stuff made in japan due to their quality)

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: like intel although amd might be better bang for buck.. reliability is important to me, and hear its worth the money)

Overclocking: Yes (Not on daily basis, maybe on very demanding gamings or multi-tasking)

SLI or Crossfire: unsure

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Bling is nice but nothing overkill, I would like a quiet PC would be nice.. dont want a hair dryer when my play BF4)
 
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For a $600 budget, overclocking and buying an SSD is almost impossible unless you want to have a low-end graphics card and a cheap and horrible case as well as being over budget. To give you some ideas of what I mean here is a build I through together with the SSD and fully overclockable:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($116.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($91.46...

Computer__GUY

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For a $600 budget, overclocking and buying an SSD is almost impossible unless you want to have a low-end graphics card and a cheap and horrible case as well as being over budget. To give you some ideas of what I mean here is a build I through together with the SSD and fully overclockable:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($116.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($91.46 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $688.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-05 11:23 EST-0500)

Kinda sucks right? Well I'd suggest that you scrap the ability to overclock and scrap the SSD because you just can't do that for $600. Doing so will save you money in other ares as well such as the CPU cooler which won't be needed and you can also save some money on the motherboard. Here is what I'd suggest which is a lot better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($116.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.91 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $625.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-05 11:32 EST-0500)

See what I mean? Loads better and will max. out both Battlefield and Crysis at decent FPS. So much better then a console. And by the way, most components these days are from China so nothing that I can really do there.

 
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danny_boi

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I really like the second build.. the ssd is just mainly gonna be a 32gb so i can store windows 8 on to boot while everything else is being stored on 1tb hard drive (non ssd)

i have a custom pc that was bulit back in 2003ish somewhere in the attic. ill see if I can find and and salvage parts off from it to save some cash on this build.

ill update when or if i can it.
 

Icaraeus

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For the budget you have if you want to play games like Crysis 3 at ultra 30+FPS you'll have to dump the SSD. There is no way around it - the other parts in your build will be mediocre. I'd recommend an R9 270X ($200) if you want to keep under $600 - you'd also be able to get better parts.

You are already cheaping out on other parts like the motherboard, case etc and a SSD will only make them worse - it wouldn't be worth the speed increase. Don't worry, HDD's aren't that bad. Computer Guy's build is good - if you want to save money (as I said) go with the R9 270X but if you want Nvidia Shield then the GTX 760 is fine if you can go over $600.

If you choose to go with Computer Guy's build I would also invest in a better PSU for use in the near future if you don't want to change it.