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February 6, 2014 6:46:59 AM

So I know it's a year+ away but I am designing a new system for the main purpose of playing Star Citizen as well as doing some graphic design work (Mostly photo editing). I have decided on everything but my graphics card and would like some input. The Motherboard I'm using will be a Asus ROG Hero LGA 1150 which has 2 PCIe 3.0X16 slots. My video card choices I have it narrowed down to are the Asus Mars 760, EVGA 780Ti, or the Sapphire R9 290X Toxic Edition. According to Maximum PC, the Mars 760 is faster than the 780Ti Reference model and the R9 290x (quiet mode) in the Crysis 3 engine which is what Star Citizen is based off of. However, the EVGA and the Sapphire are quite OC from the base models and Star Citizen is also suppose to fully support Mantle which Chris Roberts said in a video posted about how they have partnered with AMD, Oculus and others....Anyhow, if anyone has some frame rate info from any of these cards running in the Star Citizen Hangar I would be very interested in seeing how they stack up against each other. Oh and the other supporting hardware I have decided upon for now is a i5-4670K, 16Gb of G.Skill Trident X 2133, a Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD, a Western Digital 2TB Black HD, NZXT Phantom 530 Case (with lots of fans added) and the new Raidmax 850 W modular Power supply (which seems to be getting pretty good reviews). Any constructive advice here is appreciated.

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February 6, 2014 6:58:38 AM

hmmm.... at what resolution you are gonna play ?? at 1080p Gtx 780 Ti will do the job even at 1440p .
Star Citizen is pretty much a bit demanding game .
Still I think maybe You could get EVGA Gtx 780 Ti Classfied Kingpin edition .
And Get i7 4770K if you gonna do some graphics designing cryengine , rendering , editing etc .
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February 6, 2014 7:19:53 AM

BuzzKenway said:
hmmm.... at what resolution you are gonna play ?? at 1080p Gtx 780 Ti will do the job even at 1440p .
Star Citizen is pretty much a bit demanding game .
Still I think maybe You could get EVGA Gtx 780 Ti Classfied Kingpin edition .
And Get i7 4770K if you gonna do some graphics designing cryengine , rendering , editing etc .


I had thought about the 4770K because of the hyperthreading but I am wanting to keep the cost of the system down a little bit for now, plus I mostly only edit photos for my graphics work (My AMD FX 4350 and R9 270X Toxic system will do that without a hickup.) I play around with things like blender but it's not a main focus of this system. My thought was to start with one of each of the graphics cards and the 4670K and when the prices start to fall closer to release of the game add the 2nd graphics card and maybe upgrade the CPU at that time if needed. Oh and as far as res goes I'll prolly play in 1680X1050.
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February 6, 2014 7:25:24 AM

I would avoid RAIDMAX psus to be honest, they have put out some shocking crap in the past.


You could save some money by going for the Samsung 840 Evo, instead of the pro. Performance difference is negligible, you really wouldnt notice the difference.
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February 6, 2014 7:35:15 AM

RobCrezz said:
I would avoid RAIDMAX psus to be honest, they have put out some shocking crap in the past.


You could save some money by going for the Samsung 840 Evo, instead of the pro. Performance difference is negligible, you really wouldnt notice the difference.


I have heard that their new line is suppose to be much better than their old ones and yea I agree that some of their past work has been craptastic. I may end up going with a NZXT, Corsair, or Enermax instead depending on what is on sale when I do the build. I've had kinda bad luck with a few Enermax PSUs going bad and taking the motherboard with them in the past though so maybe I'll just stick with the NZXT. I have and 850 from then that has been running for over 6 years now. As far as the Evo goes I had also thought about that but the difference write speed is quite drastic on paper. I don't know about real world though since I have never owned either one.
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February 6, 2014 7:39:07 AM

spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
I would avoid RAIDMAX psus to be honest, they have put out some shocking crap in the past.


You could save some money by going for the Samsung 840 Evo, instead of the pro. Performance difference is negligible, you really wouldnt notice the difference.


I have heard that their new line is suppose to be much better than their old ones and yea I agree that some of their past work has been craptastic. I may end up going with a NZXT, Corsair, or Enermax instead depending on what is on sale when I do the build. I've had kinda bad luck with a few Enermax PSUs going bad and taking the motherboard with them in the past though so maybe I'll just stick with the NZXT. I have and 850 from then that has been running for over 6 years now. As far as the Evo goes I had also thought about that but the difference write speed is quite drastic on paper. I don't know about real world though since I have never owned either one.



I really doubt you would notice the performance difference in the real world.

Even one of the slowest SSDs is so much quicker than a fast HDD, whereas the performance between SSDs is hardly noticeable at best.

Ive used many different SSDs, and you can tell a SSD vs a HDD easily, but between different SSDs you really wouldnt notice, at least in normal use.
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February 6, 2014 7:43:55 AM

RobCrezz said:
spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
I would avoid RAIDMAX psus to be honest, they have put out some shocking crap in the past.


You could save some money by going for the Samsung 840 Evo, instead of the pro. Performance difference is negligible, you really wouldnt notice the difference.


I have heard that their new line is suppose to be much better than their old ones and yea I agree that some of their past work has been craptastic. I may end up going with a NZXT, Corsair, or Enermax instead depending on what is on sale when I do the build. I've had kinda bad luck with a few Enermax PSUs going bad and taking the motherboard with them in the past though so maybe I'll just stick with the NZXT. I have and 850 from then that has been running for over 6 years now. As far as the Evo goes I had also thought about that but the difference write speed is quite drastic on paper. I don't know about real world though since I have never owned either one.



I really doubt you would notice the performance difference in the real world.

Even one of the slowest SSDs is so much quicker than a fast HDD, whereas the performance between SSDs is hardly noticeable at best.

Ive used many different SSDs, and you can tell a SSD vs a HDD easily, but between different SSDs you really wouldnt notice, at least in normal use.


Thank you for your input on that. I will definitely give the Evo a consideration at build time then. So any thought on the video cards?
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February 6, 2014 7:49:49 AM

spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
I would avoid RAIDMAX psus to be honest, they have put out some shocking crap in the past.


You could save some money by going for the Samsung 840 Evo, instead of the pro. Performance difference is negligible, you really wouldnt notice the difference.


I have heard that their new line is suppose to be much better than their old ones and yea I agree that some of their past work has been craptastic. I may end up going with a NZXT, Corsair, or Enermax instead depending on what is on sale when I do the build. I've had kinda bad luck with a few Enermax PSUs going bad and taking the motherboard with them in the past though so maybe I'll just stick with the NZXT. I have and 850 from then that has been running for over 6 years now. As far as the Evo goes I had also thought about that but the difference write speed is quite drastic on paper. I don't know about real world though since I have never owned either one.



I really doubt you would notice the performance difference in the real world.

Even one of the slowest SSDs is so much quicker than a fast HDD, whereas the performance between SSDs is hardly noticeable at best.

Ive used many different SSDs, and you can tell a SSD vs a HDD easily, but between different SSDs you really wouldnt notice, at least in normal use.


Thank you for your input on that. I will definitely give the Evo a consideration at build time then. So any thought on the video cards?


Sure. Couple of questions first.

1) Are you gaming on a single 1080p screen?
2) If so, do you intend to upgrade to multi screen or higher resolution?

If you intend on staying on 1080p for the moment, the MARS is a great option, however it might be cheaper to just by 2x GTX 760s... less cool though!

If you ever intend on going higher then the 780 Ti or 290x would be the better option, due to having more vRam which will suit the higher resolutions.

In your position, I would go for the 780 Ti, but part of that is personal preference towards nVidia. I prefer the things they are doing at the moment, like Shadowplay and G-sync. Im not interested in Mantle really, as im not convinced game developers will be bothered about programming for it (but time will tell), when for the most part they can just use DirectX and reach a bigger audience. IMHO.
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February 6, 2014 8:10:19 AM

RobCrezz said:
spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
I would avoid RAIDMAX psus to be honest, they have put out some shocking crap in the past.


You could save some money by going for the Samsung 840 Evo, instead of the pro. Performance difference is negligible, you really wouldnt notice the difference.


I have heard that their new line is suppose to be much better than their old ones and yea I agree that some of their past work has been craptastic. I may end up going with a NZXT, Corsair, or Enermax instead depending on what is on sale when I do the build. I've had kinda bad luck with a few Enermax PSUs going bad and taking the motherboard with them in the past though so maybe I'll just stick with the NZXT. I have and 850 from then that has been running for over 6 years now. As far as the Evo goes I had also thought about that but the difference write speed is quite drastic on paper. I don't know about real world though since I have never owned either one.



I really doubt you would notice the performance difference in the real world.

Even one of the slowest SSDs is so much quicker than a fast HDD, whereas the performance between SSDs is hardly noticeable at best.

Ive used many different SSDs, and you can tell a SSD vs a HDD easily, but between different SSDs you really wouldnt notice, at least in normal use.


Thank you for your input on that. I will definitely give the Evo a consideration at build time then. So any thought on the video cards?


Sure. Couple of questions first.

1) Are you gaming on a single 1080p screen?
2) If so, do you intend to upgrade to multi screen or higher resolution?

If you intend on staying on 1080p for the moment, the MARS is a great option, however it might be cheaper to just by 2x GTX 760s... less cool though!

If you ever intend on going higher then the 780 Ti or 290x would be the better option, due to having more vRam which will suit the higher resolutions.

In your position, I would go for the 780 Ti, but part of that is personal preference towards nVidia. I prefer the things they are doing at the moment, like Shadowplay and G-sync. Im not interested in Mantle really, as im not convinced game developers will be bothered about programming for it (but time will tell), when for the most part they can just use DirectX and reach a bigger audience. IMHO.


Well to answer your questions I do plan on staying at the 1080p or around that level just because I want to get the best gaming experience. I also plan on adding an Oculus Rift to the mix and I'm not quite sure what max res it's going to support yet so I figured 1080p is a good target. 2nd the motherboard I picked out can do 16x on 2 PCIe slots so I planned on utilizing 2 video cards in either SLI or Crossfire. The Mars interests me in this because it will essentially be Quad SLI 760's on 2 PCI slots running at 16x and the R9 290X interests me because Chris Roberts has said that Star Citizen will be supporting Mantle but I have no idea what sort of performance to expect out of 2 X R9 290X with Mantle running software. AMD claims huge jumps in performance with Mantle but I have yet to run anything that uses it. 3rd it is possible that I may be running at least 2 displays even if one is the Rift and the other is just a normal monitor. Three way monitors are interesting but I don't think I want to dedicate the deskspace to something that large for one system. Especially since I will have around 5 systems in the same room. A game server, a media server, a system to use as a firewall, a pc for my fiancé, and also my game system that we are talking about now.
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February 6, 2014 8:14:45 AM

If you plan to SLI/xfire, then go for the 290x or 780 Ti for sure.

You cannot Quad SLI on the gtx 760, so thats a no go.

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February 6, 2014 8:36:21 AM

RobCrezz said:
If you plan to SLI/xfire, then go for the 290x or 780 Ti for sure.

You cannot Quad SLI on the gtx 760, so thats a no go.



The Asus Mars is 2 760 GTX running SLI on one PCB and it can SLI with a 2nd Mars which gives you Quad SLI.....that is what I'm trying to compare....basically quad SLI 760 or 2 R9 290X with Mantle in the Crysis 3 engine. If you look at this link they site they specify that the Mars can be configured to SLI with another Mars. http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-mars-760-4gb-video-car...
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February 6, 2014 8:40:34 AM

spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
If you plan to SLI/xfire, then go for the 290x or 780 Ti for sure.

You cannot Quad SLI on the gtx 760, so thats a no go.



The Asus Mars is 2 760 GTX running SLI on one PCB and it can SLI with a 2nd Mars which gives you Quad SLI.....that is what I'm trying to compare....basically quad SLI 760 or 2 R9 290X with Mantle in the Crysis 3 engine. If you look at this link they site they specify that the Mars can be configured to SLI with another Mars. http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-mars-760-4gb-video-car...


Yeah I know what the Mars is, but the GTX 760 GPU doesnt support quad SLI, thats why I didnt think it can, and thats why you wont find any "qual SLI GTX 760" benchmarks, because the regular gtx 760 can only do 3 way.

Regardless, I wouldnt do it. The low vRam of the Mars (you actually only get 2gb usable, as dual GPUS dont share ram) will make it inferior in a SLI setup where you will likely be turning on many vRam hogging detail settings.

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February 6, 2014 8:59:48 AM

RobCrezz said:
spectrevr4 said:
RobCrezz said:
If you plan to SLI/xfire, then go for the 290x or 780 Ti for sure.

You cannot Quad SLI on the gtx 760, so thats a no go.



The Asus Mars is 2 760 GTX running SLI on one PCB and it can SLI with a 2nd Mars which gives you Quad SLI.....that is what I'm trying to compare....basically quad SLI 760 or 2 R9 290X with Mantle in the Crysis 3 engine. If you look at this link they site they specify that the Mars can be configured to SLI with another Mars. http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-mars-760-4gb-video-car...


Yeah I know what the Mars is, but the GTX 760 GPU doesnt support quad SLI, thats why I didnt think it can, and thats why you wont find any "qual SLI GTX 760" benchmarks, because the regular gtx 760 can only do 3 way.

Regardless, I wouldnt do it. The low vRam of the Mars (you actually only get 2gb usable, as dual GPUS dont share ram) will make it inferior in a SLI setup where you will likely be turning on many vRam hogging detail settings.


The vRam statement I agree with...what makes me think the Mars may be better in this situation than the 780Ti is the fact that it is faster in the Crysis 3 engine. It would be real interesting to see benchmarks from 2 Mars SLI vs 2 780Ti vs 2 R9 290X. If anyone could put out this info I would love to see it!
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