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jimthenagual

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I'm moving back to Canada, so selling my system here in Japan, and rebuilding when I get home. It's purely a gaming build. Although I have added the Corsair H105, it is only temporary as I will be doing a full custom water cooling setup down the road, so if you see any ways I am shooting myself in the foot for that please let me know.

Also, I know very little about monitors. I am fine with just one, but I've selected a 27" 2560 x 1440 Asus for $630 Canadian. Please point me in the right direction if that's a bad choice for whatever reason.

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($115.80 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($217.25 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($108.08 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($589.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Desktop Case ($199.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.80 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($629.00 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $2609.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-06 23:42 EST-0500)
 
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geofelt

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A very good build.
Some thoughts:

1. I might use a 240gb SSD for the "C" drive. It fills up rapidly.
The big advantage of the PRO is endurance. In a desktop environment, performance will be the same.
Benchmarks use server apps at high queue depths. We do things 1 or 2 at a time.
In a desktop under heavy usage, the pro might last 15 years, the EVO only 10. Each will be long obsolete by then.
A 240gb EVO will perform better than the 120gb Pro.

2. With your budget, go ahead and buy a 16gb kit up front. Windows will keep more in ram available for instant reuse.

3. I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler can do the job.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"

I would use a noctua or phanteks with quiet 140mm fans

4. A superclock GTX780 costs little more. You get a guaranteed better performing unit.
Like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp43784kr

5. Love the monitor.
 
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jimthenagual

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Went up to 16Gb ram
Changed the GPU to the one you suggested

Questions to liquid cooling guru's:
1. Will the graphics card I have listed below be easy to add the liquid cooling block?
2. Any other comments on this system that will hinder me from building a full custom loop for cpu/gpu?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($115.80 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($217.25 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($156.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($579.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Desktop Case ($199.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.80 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($629.00 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $2649.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 00:05 EST-0500)
 
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-I wouldn't recommend getting the H105 if you're going to be doing a custom loop. Honestly, just stick with the stock cooler for a little bit until you get all your parts for the custom loop and then remove it. It's just not worth the money for just a couple of weeks or so.
-Since you're going to be doing a custom loop, I would just recommend a cheap reference cooled GTX 780 since you're going to remove the cooler anyways. Something like this would save you a lot of money and you can add a water block to it: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7020110p
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jimthenagual

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The thing is, I'm not sure how long I'll put off setting up the custom water loop. I've never done one before and it's going to take time for me to build up the courage to go for it. I get your point though, it is a bit of a waste of money if I'm only going to be using the H105 for a few months.

Then your point about the graphics card makes me think I need to decide right away if I'm going to do it or not. The last thing I want is the reference cooler of a Zotac graphics card screaming in my ears.
 
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Do not hear what they are saying about Corsair h105, it is awesome and easy to overclock it easy beats all the cpu air coolers.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($357.98 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($156.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($144.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($579.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Desktop Case ($199.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.80 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($629.00 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $2645.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 04:24 EST-0500)
 
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I am sorry to say but the power supply isn't enough, for that build he needs at least 750w for power supply, Thanks
 
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You might need to explain that, thanks.

 
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cyborgcity

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550w for 780?
 
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Here we go again...
The PSU i suggested in my build is perfectly fine and can handle the GTX 780.
You dont need a 750w, that would be a major waste, it might bring some "future-proofing" as you can SLI later, but I would still recommend then buying 1 new beefy card.
So please, refrain from giving false information.
 
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I dont get why people think they need 1000w PSU's(overreacting but whatever) for a single GPU.
I would understand if you was running a fx 9xxx with a r9 290x, then I might want to recommend stepping up to atleast 600w.
 
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cyborgcity

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I hate it how people suggest products purely because they own them. What you own isn't necessarily the most desirable product.
 
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Please for the love of god.
I dont own a 780, nor a 550w PSU, how did you come to this conclusion?
Please, please stop making low-quality post and try to explain why he WOULD need a 750w+ PSU
 
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cyborgcity

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Well your just trolling then, shame on you
 
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... waow.
Try to make a valid argument on why he would need a 750w+ PSU.
I do believe I have more experience in computing than you.
 
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jimthenagual

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750 watts is overkill for a single gtx 780, I'd agree. I simply want the Corsair AX line of PSU, and so I can use corsairs sleeved cable kit that you can order with it. A bit of a waste of money, but it's worth it for me and what I want. I am considering going to the AX860 actually, so I have the option to SLI in the future. Yet to be decided.
 
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So if he wants to upgrade in the future, he has to dish out another 200 bucks for a new psu? Or perhaps more. You may as well recommend he buy a mid tower or, smaller?
 
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I bet I can find a decent PSU that is capable of running 2 780 under $200.
 
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cyborgcity

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If you are so experienced in computing why are you recommending bare bone minimal requirements ? Many people recommend MORE than less power supply...
 
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850w is more, I would have gone for a 800w, but I saw the xfx PSU.
The thing is you dont get any performance increase what so ever by getting a larger PSU. There are no logic in it unless you will be running 2 GPU's or a ton of drives.
No reason to have more than you will ever use.
 
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