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February 7, 2014 4:21:53 AM

hello all!!

I am helping my brother build a computer. He has around $1000 CDN to spend, and would like to go as big as he can on all the parts with the exception of his HD 7850 graphics card, which he would like to upgrade in about half a year when he has more money to really buy a good quality card. I'm not sure how this will work, all new parts built to be compatible with a relatively older card.

So far I picked out a CPU for him - The i7 4770k - and choosing between two mobos but can't really get a good idea on which is better, or if either of them is correct at all. The ones I am looking at are the MSI H87-G43 and the Gigabyte GA-Z87

I told him he might also want both an HDD and an SSD, but I am not sure if he can afford it currently. Can anyone help me figure out a solid build for both the 4770k and the HD 7850 that would cost around $1000?

Any opinions/advice would be much appreciated and everything will be taken into consideration.

Thanks!!!
February 7, 2014 7:37:56 AM

Is this a gaming rig? If so there is no need for an i7, an i5 will save him a few $ and game just as well as the i7. If he gets a "k" series CPU, he will want a Z87 mobo. Does he need a keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers/headphones, or OS to be included in the $1000 CDN?
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February 7, 2014 9:02:59 AM

animal said:
Is this a gaming rig? If so there is no need for an i7, an i5 will save him a few $ and game just as well as the i7. If he gets a "k" series CPU, he will want a Z87 mobo. Does he need a keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers/headphones, or OS to be included in the $1000 CDN?


I apologize for the lack of that information.

He has a keyboard, mouse, monitor, headphones, and speakers, that are all pretty recent. Less than a year old.

The point of the i7 is so that it will last him a very long time. It's not only a gaming rig, he edits videos and other stuff. He likes to do everything all at once, even at some point running more than one game at a time. What we're looking for is a proper setup that will accommodate both the Radeon HD 7850 and the i7 4770k, and in the future he will have no problems with bottlenecking whatever future graphics card he buys.
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February 7, 2014 9:29:20 AM

OK, i7 it is, I'll see what I can put together for you. However, if he is not in a major rush, Broadwell (next gen CPUs) are due out soon I believe, so he might want to consider waiting.
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February 7, 2014 9:50:12 AM

Here is what I came up with, although it does not include an OS (probably add ~ $100 CDN)....build could be modified to add OS and keep the $1000 CDN budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($357.98 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.06 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($178.63 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($121.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.48 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($92.96 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1004.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 12:49 EST-0500)
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February 7, 2014 9:51:40 AM

animal said:
OK, i7 it is, I'll see what I can put together for you. However, if he is not in a major rush, Broadwell (next gen CPUs) are due out soon I believe, so he might want to consider waiting.


I asked him and told him they would be coming out late 2014. His response was that he's been waiting for a while, and now that i7 prices are affordable he is ready to buy now.

The $1000 CDN is supposed to afford him everything minus the monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers/headset, and the graphics card. With the cpu and mobo coming to around half that money already I personally am pretty lost on what to do!
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February 7, 2014 10:26:52 AM

The budget isn't going to allow an i7 4770K and SSD without major compromises somewhere else. You could go with the build suggested above and take the SSD out and get the OS in its place. The price would be about the same.
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February 7, 2014 10:58:25 AM

animal said:
Here is what I came up with, although it does not include an OS (probably add ~ $100 CDN)....build could be modified to add OS and keep the $1000 CDN budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($357.98 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.06 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($178.63 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($121.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.48 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($92.96 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1004.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-07 12:49 EST-0500)


shortstuff_mt said:
The budget isn't going to allow an i7 4770K and SSD without major compromises somewhere else. You could go with the build suggested above and take the SSD out and get the OS in its place. The price would be about the same.


Yeah I'm trying to explain that to my brother. He understands, and we're using that build as a sort of idea of what the whole is supposed to look like. Thanks to animal for putting it together! We were curious if he bought a full tower case would he still need a custom CPU cooler? He doesn't plan on overclocking the computer until he purchases a better graphics card, so we're thinking that it could be saved until later.
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February 7, 2014 11:05:03 AM

As long as he realizes that he will NOT be able to do ANY oc'ing until he purchases an aftermarket cooler, stock coolers will not cut it.
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February 7, 2014 11:35:19 AM

animal said:
As long as he realizes that he will NOT be able to do ANY oc'ing until he purchases an aftermarket cooler, stock coolers will not cut it.


Yeah, he's very aware of that.

What do you think of this motherboard?

MSI Z87-G41 PC MATE Intel Z87 Motherboard
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February 7, 2014 11:44:35 AM

Not much (lol), it only supports x4 speed in the second PCIe slot if he plans to possibly Crossfire in the future. Does not support SLI if he winds up wanting to go that route in the future.
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February 7, 2014 11:59:25 AM

animal said:
Not much (lol), it only supports x4 speed in the second PCIe slot if he plans to possibly Crossfire in the future. Does not support SLI if he winds up wanting to go that route in the future.


I want to make that the solution but we're going to the store whenever pops gets off work (need a car)

So just doing some price comparisons at this point
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