Intel i5-3570 vs AMD FX-8350K

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First and foremost I am not looking to overclock. Whichever CPU I choose, I will be getting the GTX 660 because that is all my budget allows (unless of course you can think of something better like maybe the FX-6300 with a better gpu). My question is which one shows better fps on ultra settings on games like Skyrim, Rome II TW, SimCity, BF4, etc etc. I'm more inclined to play single player as well. Please no "PICK INTEL BECAUSE AMD, FX SUCKS." I've seen to many biased answers. I need unbiased, experienced answers. I think the budget difference was $30 difference when it was all said and done. Oh, and how much PSU is enough? Thanks guys.
 
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For the games you've selected the intel would be he better performer because of its superior single-threaded performance. You could look at the newer Haswell i5 4670 which is 5-10% faster if you'd like.

An FX 6300 with a better GPU would also be a great choice, the GPU is the main factor affecting FPS for the most part.

Around 600W 80+ Bronze efficiency PSU from a decent manufacturer should be enough (XFX, Seasonic, Corsair).

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What makes you not want to overclock? It is very easy with the 8350; it was made for this purpose. If your not overclocking, you should probably lean towards the i5.

As for the PSU, go 600watt or higher (80+ certified if you can afford it. Otherwise just make sure its a reputable brand). I would actually get a 700watt, but certainly don't go less than 600w.
 
For the games you've selected the intel would be he better performer because of its superior single-threaded performance. You could look at the newer Haswell i5 4670 which is 5-10% faster if you'd like.

An FX 6300 with a better GPU would also be a great choice, the GPU is the main factor affecting FPS for the most part.

Around 600W 80+ Bronze efficiency PSU from a decent manufacturer should be enough (XFX, Seasonic, Corsair).
 
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In all honesty, I'm new to the industry, I'm 19, in college and so I'm trying to get a decent build in under $900. So I feel if I try to overclock and something goes wrong then that is money wasted and I definitely do not need to be wasting money if I am making an investment like this.
 

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If I went with the 6300, which GPU would be good without bottlenecking the cpu?
 

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Oh, and what mobo under 125 would be good for the 4670?
 

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Being really honest about it, I believe this will fall into the "Do whatever you like" category, both should handle all of those games pretty well an therefore it depends on what else are you planning to get.

I believe that going for the FX6300 is the best option (currently, one of the best value-performance you might find), and going for an GTX 760 or the R9 270X instead of the GTX660 would provide a better gaming performance to you.

Was looking at neweeg for prices comparison, the same 80 bucks that would upgrade it to the 8350 would get the GTX660 to the GTX760, for the intel option (the locked 3570), it will be 10 bucks more than the amd solution... That and the mb price that you havent settled yet...
 

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I hear ya on that, totally understandable. I have been there before too.

But just so you know, as long as you're following guides, its pretty hard to actually have anything go wrong when overclocking. Especially if you choose a reliable motherboard and PSU in the process.
 

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Well for price, I do not want to exceed $900 for the rig. I'm going to use my TV as a monitor until I get more money, and I already have a mouse and keyboard. If that helps at all. For the AMD 8350 I got to $840 and for the i5 3570 I got to $880.
 

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CPU Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core $208.97
Motherboard ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 $95.66
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 $84.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.66
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB $179.99
Wireless Network Adapter Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 $15.99
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower $49.99
Power Supply Corsair 600W ATX12V $54.99
Optical Drive LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer $15.99
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit - OEM (64-bit) $99.98
Total: $866.21

CPU AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core $194.67
Motherboard Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ $71.98
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 $84.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.66
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB $179.99
Wireless Network Adapter Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 $15.99
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower $49.99
Power Supply Corsair 600W ATX12V $54.99
Optical Drive LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer $15.99
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit - OEM (64-bit) $99.98
Total: $828.23

Are these okay?
 

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If you go with the AMD side, get this motherboard instead for a few more dollars: ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873
 


For the intel build you won't need a Z series motherboard since you're getting the non-k version of the CPU. A B or H series motherboard should do you just fine.

For the AMD build you'd want to be looking at a M5A97 r2.0 (non-LE) or a GA-970A-UD3 (or the P version). If you're overclocking at some point you may want an aftermarket cooler such as a CM Hyper 212 EVO or Xigmatek Gaia. Moreover it would be cheaper to get an FX 8320 as it's basically the same chip as the 8350, just clocked a little lower at stock and costs far less - when overclocked, they reach between 0.05GHz of each other which is basically nothing. To get an 8320 to 8350 speeds all you need to do is change the multiplier to 20.