Windows 8 not working right, at all

unplanned bacon · Feb 9, 2014

Basically from day 1 it's been having issues. It keeps saying it never shut down properly. I use Settings > Power > Shut down. Well, if that's causing it to think it lost power how else are you supposed to shut down!!!?

Got 16 cases of Kernel-Power error even though I shut down correctly

Got BSOD (Memory_Management) when waking from sleep. No errors found by memory diagnostic (Although it never told me because the little window that's supposed to come up never came)

Got shadow copy failures

I know my hardware works fine, because all the problems starting when I installed 8 (except for when it emergency shutdown during a mobo update, because the CPU overheated, that was genuine), but Windows 8.1 is ruining my beast of a build!

How do I fix this, tired of it already, 3 weeks in

apache_lives · Feb 9, 2014

overheating issues? number one rule of any computer - it should run at any given time with any given task without hesitation or issue, if it does not ITS FAULTY

fix your heating issue
if its overclocked reset the overclock
test your hardware (ALL of it -- memtest furmark prime95 hdtune)

dont blame Windows 8 because of issues with your faulty/poorly built/configured rig

unplanned bacon · Feb 9, 2014

I fixed the heating issue as soon as I found it, the CPU cooling fan was not plugged in fully or something and now temps are way down at 30 degrees and Windows 8 is still broken

In fact it's widely accepted that 8 sucks (question my choice of it now), but I was kind of liking it, but it's been broken since day 1

And if you're not going to help dude, stay out the thread

unplanned bacon · Feb 9, 2014

Just thinking, could it be the Power adaptor it's plugged in to causing stability issues. Other devices have been plugged in to it and never had a problem, it's an 8 way

I did some more digging and found that it could be the hybrid shutdown causing the Event 41's. A number of times after shutdown I intend to work on my PC so I turn off at the PSU as well, but because 8 never fully shuts down, but is instead in hibernation then wouldn't that register as it lost power? There are some days where Event 41 does not occur.

Still stumped on the Memory Management error though

cyborgcity · Feb 10, 2014

I keep getting the "sorry there was a problem needs to restart" page with the frown face. Windows won't let me install some updates now either. I have played with my RAM a little bit down volting it. I don't even think thats the problem though.

apache_lives · Feb 10, 2014

power cuts/overheating = file system corruptions = windows wont load

original windows disk in and boot from it, select the repair option (to run chkdsk etc)

again TEST YOUR HARDWARE it doesnt matter that you found one issue keep looking and check everything else

james_44 · Feb 10, 2014

Which RAM are you using? I was using a third party RAM for the longest time and it was getting memory related issues for the longest time. I replaced one of the two and it was back to working normally.

Try running WIN7 and see if you face the same issues. I moved back to win7 from win8.

unplanned bacon · Feb 10, 2014

Corsair CML16GX3M2A1600C10 Vengeance Low Profile 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 Mhz CL10 XMP Performance Desktop Memory Kit Black

I nuked my drives and formatted everything to do a clean install of 8 (sfc/scannow found a corrupt file). Interestingly PowerDVD 12 reported one when I tried to install it after, but I put PowerDVD 19 back.

Could the error 41's be caused by Windows 8.1's hybrid shutdown. A lot of the time I want to work on the inside of the rig after shutdown so I switch the PSU off after shutdown, but because 8 I'd never truly off does that cause it to register as an error 41?

cyborgcity · Feb 10, 2014

unplanned bacon :

What sort of protection do or did you have running before you reformatted? Did you scan your system?

apache_lives · Feb 10, 2014

james_44 :

Third party ram? What are you talking about?

Nothing wrong with Windows 8, your suggesting something for no reason.

unplanned bacon · Feb 10, 2014

Avast and Malware Bytes. They came back clean in scans and if Malware Bytes did find something I'd get it to clear it out.

I will say now though, during first boot when I put it together it emergency shutdown during a motherboard software update because the CPU got too hot (I thought the cooling fan was fully connected, but evidently it wasn't, my fault). And I do some registry editing to get rid of remnants of an uninstalled program (I only removed things related to that program), don't know if that could have caused the memory management error but the two events were several hours apart.

After formatting and reinstalling (after making this thread) just Windows, scannow came back with no integrity problems. PowerDVD 12 came later 10 was already installed and was on the motherboard disc) did it say corrupted file.

My computer was working fine over the three weeks but there was something not quite right. Reliability monitor was throwing up a tonne of errors and then you've got this memory management error which led to the formatting and reinstall

unplanned bacon · Feb 10, 2014

And if anyone could tell me why PowerDVD 10 doesn't appear in add/remove programs that would be great

unplanned bacon · Feb 10, 2014

So now I know PowerDVD's install process is the most likely cause of the corrupt file. It occurred with PowerDVD 10 and the time I tried to put 12

Speed_Deacon · Feb 10, 2014

go to the pc setting at the charm bar and click recycle your PC and it will take at least 9/10 hours and it will work fine

unplanned bacon · Feb 10, 2014

cyborgcity :

Were you able to get anywhere with this?

I don't want to tempt fate, but since the clean install everything is working properly, except that corrupt file (most likely created by PowerDVD) which I haven't scanned for again yet, but I assume it's there. No Google Chrome didn't shut down correctly, no Error 41, no BSODs, faster operation, so something had gone screwy somewhere in the software

I've figured PowerDVD 10 is in the Add/Remove programs thing. As it installed as part of a CyberLink Media Suite all the programs appear under one name. I have had one tiny issue though with my Xbox 360 adaptor malfunctioning, but that's minor

EDIT: sfc/scannow came back and no corrupted files!!!

EDIT: Spoke too soon, got another Windows was not properly shutdown

apache_lives · Feb 10, 2014

T E S T__Y O U R__H A R D W A R E

have i said it clear enough?

cyborgcity · Feb 10, 2014

unplanned bacon :

I deleted some download programs and removed some spyware from malware and some other infected files with avast etc. But I left the OS running all night with sleep/display turned off and woke up and it had restarted again taking me to the black boot screen... Did you play with the sleep/display settings much? Does it still do it if you lock it or put it to sleep etc.?

I just payed $150 for windows 8.1 from windows 7 and I really dont see why I should pay more money for an OS. Id like to fix it without reinstalling windows 8.1 again as well. Ive only had mine running for 3 days.

unplanned bacon · Feb 10, 2014

apache_lives :

No, unless you're talking about the RAM test thing, but that seems kind of long to d

ther sources suggest is could be the fast boot feature causing an Event 41 to register. If my hardware was faulty would it not crash first, then cause an Event 41 rather than work 100% fine and trigger event 41 with no visual symptoms at all

I will look into testing my RAM though

apache_lives · Feb 12, 2014

"long to do"

right.

unplanned bacon · Feb 12, 2014

apache_lives :

What seems to be the issue dude?

apache_lives · Feb 13, 2014

you come here looking for a solution and seeking advice, then you disregard it

do you want help or not?

unplanned bacon · Feb 13, 2014

Yeah, but your first post didn't make me inclined to any to listen to you at all

cyborgcity · Feb 13, 2014

Unplanned bacon are you still getting the crashes? I though I might of been progressing then yesterday I went to fire up BF4 to show my housemate my rig and being the best time of course boom, it crashed again

unplanned bacon · Feb 13, 2014

A clean install and turning off fast start seems to have fixed all the issues (no error 41s, bugs, slow starts or blue screens, time will tell if the blue screen thing stays true). I've had no errors at all, no corrupted files apart from 1 out 2 buggy programs. Seems the crash during that motherboard update on day one may have been the root of the issue along with when acronis copied everything. If that memory management thing he queens again I will probably test my RAM.

As for the battlefield problem, maybe try reinstalling the game?

USAFRet · Feb 13, 2014

unplanned bacon :

So you built a new system, and cloned the OS from the old system? Presumably you have a new motherboard and CPU?
And a clean install fixed it?

Yes, this is very often what happens with the cloning process. You're lucky it even started the first time!

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