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Gaming build_Budget: 1900-2000$_Really need your help!!

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February 9, 2014 5:12:08 PM

Hey guys!

Its not the first time I asking for advice here about new builds, but somehow I never can get the build I dream about...but now I have the money(+ I got tired my 7 years old pc haunting me with its problems),so the budget is around 1900-2000$.
Important, do not calculate deals/offers into price, bacause I live far from those shops, and will have to buy all the stuff here.

Here is the part list:

The fix parts are:
Case: InWin GRone Grey Windowed
Processor: i5-4670k
HDD: SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB
Opt. drive: ASUS DRW-24F1ST
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Here comes the parts cause me insomnia :D  I really appreciate every suggestions,advise on these parts.

1. First of all the mobo, I can't decide between 3...Two of them is cheaper so better for budget, but the 3rd one is much brutal, ofc with higher price.
Asrock Z87 Extreme4 vs Asrock Z87 Fatal1ty Killer vs Asus Maximus VI Hero

2. For next the RAM, I picked G.SKILL SNIPER 2X4 GB DDR3-2133 KIT(yep a CL9 kit), maybe there are better options for my setup.

3. Another hard thing is the SSD..There are so many on the market and have no idea which one to pick, only thing I know a 120-128GB one will be far enough.

4-5. And the lethal combo of the VGA & PSU.

4. Have to admit I choose a card:
SAPPHIRE RADEON R9-290 Tri-X OC 4GB, the reason why it is not X is the big money for a few % of performance.
I need ur thoughts on which VGA to pick, Im not bound to any of the brands so Im open to any suggestions.

Future vga bound plans:
- In 2-3 years I gonna buy a 2nd card to CF them
- In 2-3 years I gonna buy another 2 monitors /so will be a 3 monitor display/

5. Another part of the problem is the PSU, Not sure how big is the power consumption of a 2way CF/SLI for this level of video cards(I mean not the high-high end).

Future psu bound plans:
- Cpu will be overclocked
- There are 10slots for fans in the case, 2 taken by the cooler, so 8 additional fans will be installed.
- probably a fan controller in the future as well as a 2nd HDD

6. And the water cooler, I choosen THERMALTAKE Water 3.0 Extreme CL-W02244, but no clue which one is the most ideal for me./EDIT: Getting to go the aircooler way/

Hope its not so messy to find out what I meant :) 

Thanks for reading it through. I really appreciate every help u give me, hope there will be tons of answers.

Thanks a lot,

Ectorr
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February 9, 2014 5:46:30 PM

Will you be needing a monitor?
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February 9, 2014 5:49:58 PM

1- Asrock Z87 Fatality, only because it's a few dollars more than the extreme4, based on pcpartpicker's info.

2-stick with DDR3-1600/1866 to avoid issues and save yourself the headache. not worth the money anyway to spend on faster ram.

3-Samsung 840 EVO. you could probably spend on a 250GB if you want to.

4-seeing as you're planning to setup 3 monitors, not much else to recommend you. if you're looking to save up, there's the 780. if you're looking for more, the 780ti's the next best thing worth your money.

5-pcpartpickers saying you'd be able to run it with a 750W PSU, though barely. adding a bit of headroom just to be safe, i reckon an 800-850W will do you good. get at least a tier 2 from this list; http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

i'd also recommend you lower your expectations. unless you got yourself a killer custom water-cooled setup (i.e NOT to be confused with an all-in-one liquid cooler like Corsair's H100i) and/or a VERY good chip, you're not likely to see it hit 4.5 stable
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February 9, 2014 5:57:19 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.98 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.95 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($145.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 CA-PH530-B1 Black ATX Full Tower Case ($119.98 @ Best Buy)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($14.01 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($14.01 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.49 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1819.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-09 20:54 EST-0500)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.98 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.95 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($145.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($717.27 @ TigerDirect)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 CA-PH530-B1 Black ATX Full Tower Case ($119.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($14.01 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($14.01 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.49 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2036.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-09 20:55 EST-0500)

I included some pricier parts, just to go with the color scheme. if you don't care, tell me and i'll adjust accordingly.
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February 9, 2014 6:43:10 PM

Just to clear things up, I don't need list from pcpartpickers, I have some fix parts. Only help needed with the "insomnia causing" parts.

#Hazle thx for ur comment, btw that clock speed was a random number(I removed it). time will tell the OC. + Funny but here the 290s are cheaper or at the same price range as the 780s :) 

/EDIT: I moved the water cooler from the fix parts section to the "insomnia" group as 6th/
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February 9, 2014 7:00:06 PM

just so we're clear, and i know you listed out Sapphire's Tri-X but just to be real safe; those 290's don't happen come with stock coolers like these, do they? http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r92904gd5

if they do, you may want to get a 290 with a custom cooler for better cooling.
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February 9, 2014 7:20:00 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.98 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.47 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($719.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Inwin GRone (Gray) ATX Full Tower Case ($142.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1843.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-09 22:19 EST-0500)
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February 10, 2014 1:38:58 AM

Okay I try it again, I can do nothing with pcpartpicker stuff, I live in Hungary. We have a TAX of 27%, so I can't get as good stuff for the budget as like I live there...I only need help with "insomnia causing" parts & reasons if u advice a newer one.
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February 10, 2014 1:40:29 AM

Hazle said:
just so we're clear, and i know you listed out Sapphire's Tri-X but just to be real safe; those 290's don't happen come with stock coolers like these, do they? http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r92904gd5

if they do, you may want to get a 290 with a custom cooler for better cooling.


For me 290s and 780s only meaning is non reference/aftermarket cooler cards.
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February 10, 2014 4:36:16 AM

Ectorr said:
Okay I try it again, I can do nothing with pcpartpicker stuff, I live in Hungary. We have a TAX of 27%, so I can't get as good stuff for the budget as like I live there...I only need help with "insomnia causing" parts & reasons if u advice a newer one.


i have a sales tax of 6% on like clothing and stuff and the rest 0% tax :p  also air cooling can actually be cooler than water cooling and u also take the chance with water cooling of it leaking and destroying your entire pc... a leaky water cooler is not uncommon
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February 10, 2014 5:00:16 AM

1 the Asus Maximus VI Hero is the best board for max OC but if on a budget I would get the Asrock Killer really what you want to spend on a board.
2 I personally would not bother with faster than 1866 ram but the sniper is as good as any.
3 I have never bought the fastest or best rated SSD's on the market but rather bought on price so currently have 3 Mushkin Cronos, 1 Kingston V300, 1 Adata and 1 Seagate all work a charm.
4 Really is between the GTX780 and the 290 on price, the sapphire card is good choice. 2-3 years might as well upgrade the card since there will be new and better things.
5 A quality 850watt will handle the dual card setup with those cards.
6 No comment since I am all for air cooling.
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February 10, 2014 5:41:07 AM

Asus Maximus VI Hero

G.SKILL SNIPER 2X4 GB DDR3-2133

Samsung Pro or Evo

SAPPHIRE RADEON R9-290 Tri-X OC 4GB

850W TO 1000W quality power supply = SEASONIC , XFX , Corsair NOT CX or VS Series , ANTEC.

1000W if oveclocking.


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February 10, 2014 10:45:10 AM

Okay, those are all good motherboards, but if you want crossfire you need one that supports it. I would go with the Asus, and if you're overclocking AND doing SLI in the future, you need a 1000w+ PSU. Get 80+ bronze, but silver or gold would be preferable. Samsung 840 pros are pretty much the best SSDs on the market right now. As far as RAM goes, just get the cheapest 8gb you can find, really. Definitely go for a low CAS latency, that's worth a few bucks, but don't spend like $40 for 2133 instead of 1866 or G.Skill over x brand.
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February 10, 2014 1:25:45 PM

Thanks for all your answers, Its getting more and more clear what I gonna pick.
Btw some of you are against water cooling, so which air coolers u recommend most ??
I'm newbie in the OC section, so dont have any idea what makes an air cooler to handle an overclocked cpu and be the best...I don't care about noise, as well as size doesn't matter.
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February 10, 2014 1:28:57 PM

I like the Noctua DH-14 , and the Phanteks PH-TC14PE.

I own both , they are very good.
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February 10, 2014 2:13:11 PM

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I like the Noctua DH-14 , and the Phanteks PH-TC14PE.

I own both , they are very good.


Top coolers if you are going for max overclock but if content to go around 4.4-4.5GHz then the Cooler master 212 EVO usually can on a budget.
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February 10, 2014 3:37:01 PM

Generally air coolers are limited by internal air, while a good air cooler uses air outside of your case that isn't heated by the rest of your components. Without a lot of fans and ventilation air cooling doesn't get much better than a Hyper 212 Evo, but your case does have the capacity for a ton of them. In your case I would get something like the Noctua DH-14 and plenty of good, powerful, case fans like these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... if you really want air cooling. It does have less of a risk, but you tend to get better performance out of water cooling.
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February 10, 2014 4:06:23 PM

Ohh god, I cant say enough thanks for the help u give me :) 
But I still not sure what kind of fans and fan controller(Atm only interested in the brands) should I pick.
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February 10, 2014 4:08:10 PM

Big Air can do a great job , in the right setup.
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February 11, 2014 2:46:45 AM

Okay now I've choosen the parts, only one thing left, good case fans needed.

Mobo: ASUS Maximus VI Hero
CPU: INTEL Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz 1150
RAM: G.Skill DDR-3 8GB /1866 KIT (F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM) /yeah its CL8 and only costs 5$ more than cl9 version/
Cooler: NOCTUA NH-D14
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 PRO(128GB)
HDD: SEAGATE Barracuda 2TB
VGA: SAPPHIRE RADEON R9-290 Tri-X OC 4GB
Opt. drive: ASUS DRW-24F1ST
Case: IN WIN GRone Big-Tower Grey Window
PSU: EVGA SUPERNOVA 1000 G2 1000W 80 PLUS GOLD
/but there is a high chance I can get the platinum version only for 25$ more..that would be epic lol/
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February 11, 2014 2:58:29 AM

Looks great.
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February 11, 2014 4:58:36 AM

Nice build.
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