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February 9, 2014 6:46:09 PM

Hello. I found out that my CPU is a MAJOR bottleneck for my GPU. My GPU is the MSI Radeon R9 270X GAMING OC EDITION overclocked from 1080 MHz to 1120 MHz. My CPU is the AMD Athlon X4 760K overclocked from 3.8 GHz to 4.5 GHz. I need a new Motherboard and a new CPU. Anybody have any ideas of a good option that would not bottleneck my GPU at all? I have been thinking about an AMD FX-6300 or maybe, just maybe, and AMD FX-8320, and a MSI 760GM-E51 (FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard. Do you guys think this is a good setup? Is there a potentially better setup? Here are some pics of how bad the bottleneck is: http://i59.tinypic.com/246jo0g.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/23ts8eq.jpg

MOTHERBOARD: MSI A78M-E35 Socket FM2+
Thank you in advance! Also, I am not really looking to spend more than $200 on this unless I absolutely have to. I need the CPU to not bottleneck the GPU one bit.

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February 9, 2014 6:54:58 PM

The best you can get for your FM2+ socket is the A10-7850K APU.
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February 9, 2014 6:57:15 PM

TechCIDLC said:
The best you can get for your FM2+ socket is the A10-7850K APU.


Would that bottleneck the R9 270X at all?
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February 9, 2014 6:59:32 PM

it will probably bottleneck it worse than you have. you need an AM3+ motherboard to go to a FX series chip.
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February 9, 2014 7:00:56 PM

getochkn said:
it will probably bottleneck it worse than you have. you need an AM3+ motherboard to go to a FX series chip.


That is what I am thinking. How would an AMD FX-6300 with a MSI 760GM-E51 (FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard be?
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February 10, 2014 5:29:56 AM

Mysticalsam said:
760G won't be a good choice for FX.
Get a AMD 970.

Check these out.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


Would an ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard work well with the FX-6300? Would the FX-6300 bottleneck the 270X at all? Sorry for saying bottlenecking so much, I just hate being bottlenecked.
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February 10, 2014 8:44:52 AM

AMD used the 7850k and r9 270x in a lot of their bechmarks and presentations. I really don't think it would bottleneck it much at all, and if it did, why would AMD themselves use it. The kavari cores on the 7850k are more efficient than those on the 6300 as well. If it were me, I would go with the 7850. I don't think the 6300 will be worth the extra cost of the new motherboard, and supposedly AM3+ is not going to be getting any new CPU's, where FM2+ may.
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February 10, 2014 1:53:41 PM

TriBeard said:
AMD used the 7850k and r9 270x in a lot of their bechmarks and presentations. I really don't think it would bottleneck it much at all, and if it did, why would AMD themselves use it. The kavari cores on the 7850k are more efficient than those on the 6300 as well. If it were me, I would go with the 7850. I don't think the 6300 will be worth the extra cost of the new motherboard, and supposedly AM3+ is not going to be getting any new CPU's, where FM2+ may.


The 7850K has 4 cores, whereas the 6300 is 6 cores, even though the 7850 has better per-core performance. It has 2 mb more of l2 cache, and got a higher score in PassMark. It is also only $119.99 from Newegg VS the $184.99 on Newegg, and I don't need a built-in GPU with my dedicated CPU already here. You are paying more money for the R7 GPU built in. Even the FX-8320 is less money, with twice the cores, and over 1.5x the performance in PassMark, twice the l2 cache. Are there going to be some more FM2+ CPUs that are good coming out any time soon? If they are, how much money would they cost and how well would they perform? Thank you!
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February 10, 2014 2:24:48 PM

For the 970 motherboard I'd say a GA-970A-UD3(P) is the best choice. Following that, a M5A97 R2.0. If you're looking at overclocking on anything other than those, forget about it.

If you want to completely eradicate the bottleneck intel may be the better choice, though an FX 6300 or FX 8320 should be sufficient. I had an FX 8320 @ 4.6 and still felt a bottleneck in single-threaded multiplayer games, BF seems well threaded though so you shouldn't have issues.
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February 10, 2014 2:26:56 PM

JOOK-D said:
For the 970 motherboard I'd say a GA-970A-UD3(P) is the best choice. Following that, a M5A97 R2.0. If you're looking at overclocking on anything other than those, forget about it.

If you want to completely eradicate the bottleneck intel may be the better choice, though an FX 6300 or FX 8320 should be sufficient. I had an FX 8320 @ 4.6 and still felt a bottleneck in single-threaded multiplayer games, BF seems well threaded though so you shouldn't have issues.


Would there be a better Intel choice than the FX-6300 that is around the same price? I know that Intel CPUs are much more expensive. Also, how would the 6300 do vs the 8320 in BF?
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February 10, 2014 2:51:46 PM

Andrew Buck said:
JOOK-D said:
For the 970 motherboard I'd say a GA-970A-UD3(P) is the best choice. Following that, a M5A97 R2.0. If you're looking at overclocking on anything other than those, forget about it.

If you want to completely eradicate the bottleneck intel may be the better choice, though an FX 6300 or FX 8320 should be sufficient. I had an FX 8320 @ 4.6 and still felt a bottleneck in single-threaded multiplayer games, BF seems well threaded though so you shouldn't have issues.


Would there be a better Intel choice than the FX-6300 that is around the same price? I know that Intel CPUs are much more expensive. Also, how would the 6300 do vs the 8320 in BF?


What's your budget for the CPU? And what's your currency?

The 6300 and 8320 will perform similarly in single player, the 8320 will fair a little better in multiplayer.

AMD do often have the price/performance edge.
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February 10, 2014 3:04:12 PM

JOOK-D said:
Andrew Buck said:
JOOK-D said:
For the 970 motherboard I'd say a GA-970A-UD3(P) is the best choice. Following that, a M5A97 R2.0. If you're looking at overclocking on anything other than those, forget about it.

If you want to completely eradicate the bottleneck intel may be the better choice, though an FX 6300 or FX 8320 should be sufficient. I had an FX 8320 @ 4.6 and still felt a bottleneck in single-threaded multiplayer games, BF seems well threaded though so you shouldn't have issues.


Would there be a better Intel choice than the FX-6300 that is around the same price? I know that Intel CPUs are much more expensive. Also, how would the 6300 do vs the 8320 in BF?


What's your budget for the CPU? And what's your currency?

The 6300 and 8320 will perform similarly in single player, the 8320 will fair a little better in multiplayer.

AMD do often have the price/performance edge.


I am looking to sell this board with the CPU and a CX430 (unused and unopened) for around $200 and use that money, maybe around $25 or $50 more at most, and of course $. I also usually play in multiplayer.
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February 11, 2014 10:50:22 AM

JOOK-D said:
Andrew Buck said:
JOOK-D said:
For the 970 motherboard I'd say a GA-970A-UD3(P) is the best choice. Following that, a M5A97 R2.0. If you're looking at overclocking on anything other than those, forget about it.

If you want to completely eradicate the bottleneck intel may be the better choice, though an FX 6300 or FX 8320 should be sufficient. I had an FX 8320 @ 4.6 and still felt a bottleneck in single-threaded multiplayer games, BF seems well threaded though so you shouldn't have issues.


Would there be a better Intel choice than the FX-6300 that is around the same price? I know that Intel CPUs are much more expensive. Also, how would the 6300 do vs the 8320 in BF?


What's your budget for the CPU? And what's your currency?

The 6300 and 8320 will perform similarly in single player, the 8320 will fair a little better in multiplayer.

AMD do often have the price/performance edge.


What CPU/Motherboard combo would be the best for $200-$250 for a non-bottlenecking experience with my 270X?
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February 11, 2014 11:25:45 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CUHE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CUHE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CUHE/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $252.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-11 14:22 EST-0500)



PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Qvgy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Qvgy/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Qvgy/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $239.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-11 14:23 EST-0500)

The board is of higher quality on the AMD side, and it's fit to overclock if you wish. For BF it's likely they'll perform similarly.
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