GTX 770, is it worth?

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

Hey!

I wonder if I should take a GTX 770, as I have read, it's allmost a year old GPU. I wonder if it's worth of getting it or maybe I should something *newer?

Or *AMD cards getting better than nvidia's?

I really don't know and I don't want to make a mistake in purchasing.

Thanks for help

apcs13 · Feb 10, 2014

Its a fantastic card, I actually got myself a 280X this past December for my new personal rig but it was built poorly and failed on my the first time I launched a game, even though it had ran fine in easy tasks for almost a whole day before. The GTX 770, while older than the 280X of similar power, is actually more powerful than the 280X by a little bit, and besides, the 280X is basically a re-hashed 7970 GHz, so it's nothing crazy new either.

The 770 is an amazing GPU, it would be a mistake not to buy it considering when it came out it was around $500!

allocco91 · Feb 10, 2014

Buying an r9 card with their current price gouging issues would be the only mistake. The ASUS GTX 770 frequently goes on sale for around 300, much less expensive than it's AMD equivalent competitor, the 280/280x.

enemy1g · Feb 10, 2014

The AMD equivelant is the r9 280x. Both are about equal, either card can take the performance lead, it all depends on which game. But as it is now, the GTX 770 is still a really solid card. If you're thinking about waiting, that is fine too, as the next gen Nvidia cards should be out this year, and I'm assuming AMD will follow suit.

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

apcs13 :

Hah! Nice to know that AMD's was also rebranded! I thought they were completely new like 290x, wich I guess are also rebranded or not?

Just a friendly question about the price,
Do you think that it will drop even more when the Maxwell will come? As nvidis says, It will be something new and epic bla bla.

icraft · Feb 10, 2014

It being rebranded has nothing to do with it. Neither AMD or nVidia has anything new below their top tier cards. (i.e. everything below R9 290 is rebrand, everything below GTX 780 is rebrand.) The GTX 770 is a great card that beats the R9 280x or matches it a lot of the time. I run the PNY 770 OC signature edition. It has the highest stock clocks and was $319 when I got it, great card.

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

enemy1g :

I'm also doing a lot of video editing with After Effects and Sony vegas, would NVIDIA affect the performance in this programmes?

280x are rebranded as I heared..damn you AMD!

icraft · Feb 10, 2014

I see other posts. I think the price will drop once maxwell comes, but the high end maxwell is slated for the end of this year, so waiting might not be worth it.

JackNaylorPE · Feb 10, 2014

Something new won't be here till May .... AMD to my view is still attractive in the lower - middle price ranges but at the higher, I don't see a case for AMD unless you use the cards strictly "outta the box" and don't OC ..... the higher end AMD cards are aggressively OC'd from the getgo whereas to get same or better performance, you have to manually OC the nVidia cards.

However, you can't make a mistake, the performance differences are small. Lately I think it comes down to whether you find benefit in ShadowPlay, CUDA, PhysX, Gsync versus what ya think Mantle will bring to the table.

With video editing on the table, CUDA should be a consideration.

icraft · Feb 10, 2014

RulesSpew :

If you are editing while rendering with open GL or CL an amd card will serve you well. My GTX 770 only has the compute power of my HD 7770. If you need compute go AMD this time around, or big kepler. (GK110 cards like GTX 780 or 780ti or TITAN)

apcs13 · Feb 10, 2014

RulesSpew :

Actually yes, the CUDA cores on the Nvidia GPU's can really help in video editing and rendering applications, so if that is a big deal to you there is another reason to go Nvidia. I'm not hating on AMD though, their products are good as well, just for different reasons like Mantle, better OpenCL support, much better crypto-currency mining capabilities, eyefinity, and other small things. Of course, Nvidia offers some similar things as well.

It's basically personal and budget preference. ATM the 280X is rougly $400-450, so there is no reason to get that right now. And no, I do not forsee a price drop in the AMD GPU's for a while now, at the very earliest the launch of Nvidia's new GPU line, which could happen between late March and September, maybe even later, no one knows.

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

icraft :

RulesSpew :

If you are editing while rendering with open GL or CL an amd card will serve you well. My GTX 770 only has the compute power of my HD 7770. If you need compute go AMD this time around, or big kepler. (GK110 cards like GTX 780 or 780ti or TITAN)

A 780 umm, might consider that! As I see..2x more cuda cores, 3 GB DDR5 instead of 2.
If I'd go with a 780 I'd need to take a Xeon CPU instead of 4770 :/, hope that won't make my performance lower

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

apcs13 :

RulesSpew :

Actually yes, the CUDA cores on the Nvidia GPU's can really help in video editing and rendering applications, so if that is a big deal to you there is another reason to go Nvidia. I'm not hating on AMD though, their products are good as well, just for different reasons like Mantle, better OpenCL support, much better crypto-currency mining capabilities, eyefinity, and other small things. Of course, Nvidia offers some similar things as well.

It's basically personal and budget preference. ATM the 280X is rougly $400-450, so there is no reason to get that right now. And no, I do not forsee a price drop in the AMD GPU's for a while now, at the very earliest the launch of Nvidia's new GPU line, which could happen between late March and September, maybe even later, no one knows.

That CUDA would be the best for me, I will be using a lot od 3D plugins in AE, and I see it supports just cuda.
Do you think I should get even a stronger GPU like 780? If I would get Xeon instead i7 4770, I would save some money and be able to get the 780

( just not sure if xeon is as good as i7! )

icraft · Feb 10, 2014

RulesSpew :

It will not usually in rendering, but in gaming it might. What would be the one you get, and where are you buying?

apcs13 · Feb 10, 2014

RulesSpew :

Well, it depends on what you want. If you are making this rig specifically for gaming, you should stick with the i7, Xeons are generally not gaming CPU's and are more commonly used in server hosting and that type of processing application. It really depends on what resolution you are playing at. For me, the GTX 770 is perfect for my 1080P monitor and can max all games and get 60+ FPS except with some exceptions, like completely maxed Crysis 3 and no SSAA on Metro: Last Light, but in every single other game I can max out every single setting at 1080P. You will most likely have even better results because an i7 currently is much much better than my FX-6350 in gaming, so you will most likely even get better framerates if anything.

You really only need a 780 if you play at resolutions higher than 1080P. I would say get it if you can afford it, but it isn't worth sacrificing the i7 over. Also you would need a better power supply.

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

icraft :

You mean the CPU?
Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 would be my choise, no integrated graphics wich I hated on intel's i7's!
( I'm not in UK or USA, Czech Republic is my country, the xeon costs 100$ less than i7, so I might get an 780

icraft · Feb 10, 2014

It should perform nearly the same as the 4770 as far as I can tell.

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

apcs13 :

RulesSpew :

Well, it depends on what you want. If you are making this rig specifically for gaming, you should stick with the i7, Xeons are generally not gaming CPU's and are more commonly used in server hosting and that type of processing application. It really depends on what resolution you are playing at. For me, the GTX 770 is perfect for my 1080P monitor and can max all games and get 60+ FPS except with some exceptions, like completely maxed Crysis 3 and no SSAA on Metro: Last Light, but in every single other game I can max out every single setting at 1080P. You will most likely have even better results because an i7 currently is much much better than my FX-6350 in gaming, so you will most likely even get better framerates if anything.

You really only need a 780 if you play at resolutions higher than 1080P. I would say get it if you can afford it, but it isn't worth sacrificing the i7 over. Also you would need a better power supply.

The xeon is the same as i7 just with no integrated graphics and 8 MB L3 instead of 12 :/
I will be using one monitor for sure!

780 has 250W TDP and 770 has 230W as I see, hope I'm not wrong! Or is it more?

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

I'll stick with NVIDIA

And I hope that xeon will work fine just like i7, and I will be able to save money

A 770 or 780 I don't know yet but I'll think about it, mby some money saving for my gf

Thank's guys

, there should be more people like you in this forums!

apcs13 · Feb 10, 2014

An i7 is still faster in a lot of gaming applications. It's not going to be a huge step down in performance, in fact in certain apps it might not be noticeable , in some there might be a difference. I can't say for certain on this, I am not an expert in Xenons, I just know the i7 is better in gaming, but it might not be by that much.

And yes you are correct, it is only a 20W difference, my mistake.

WhiteSnake91 · Feb 10, 2014

The Xeon is fine, I was about to sell my hd7950 to a miner and get gtx 770 4gb version because I have absolutely no interest in ever bothering with all that mining crap. Xeon is just a locked i7 with no graphics built in.... MANY people on the cpu board and through google if you look have built Xeon gaming rigs fine, you can even save some money by going with a cheaper motherboard since the Xeon can't overclock anyway

JackNaylorPE · Feb 10, 2014

I think you'd be fine with Haswell but if going going to more cores Id be looking at something newer than that Xeon.....Given the price of the 780s these days, I'm finding 90% of my builds are using 1 or 2 of them. I have two Asis DCIIs overlcocked 25% on the core and 20% on memory but the MSI right now is $30 cheaper here in US and has a nice OC outta the box.

filippi · Feb 10, 2014

Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 + GTX780? It's a powerful combo even for a gaming pc. Very strong rendering capabilities too.

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

apcs13 :

np
But the performance difference is a bit huge between 770 and 780! Almost a 10 fps for 20W +

Hope that won't kill my 550W seasonic G PSU!

RulesSpew · Feb 10, 2014

JackNaylorPE :

That MSI 780 looks smexy!
But also lightning is a beat and 3 fans looks epic

Wich 780 would you recommend?

GTX 770, is it worth?

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