AMD GPU Shortage

GSXJunkie

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Hi everyone!

In case you have been looking around for *any* of the AMD Radeon R9 280x or 290x GPU's, you'll have noticed by now that no one has them. And anyone that does find one, will find it 25% or more than its original cost!

Well, after months of poking and prodding, I was finally able to get some information on the shortage.

The first run of cards in November were bought up quickly, mostly by LiteCoin/BitCoin miners and the like. The second run was also bought up quickly in early December, though they couldn't ship as many cards as they wanted to.

The current problem, and the problem that has plagued them since end of December to now, is memory chip problems. They found problems with almost every batch of chips up until recently.

We can hope for some cards to ship around February 20th, though a date of around March 15th for general availability was given to me (Though, keep in mind this all comes from a 3rd party card manufacturer, and not AMD.)


If anyone else has any information on this topic, please say so! AMD and the card manufacturers have been silent this whole time, while NewEgg and others drove up their prices when they knew more cards wouldn't be available in bulk for a long time. Time for shenanigans like this to end!
 
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AMD has been silent because there is nothing they can do.
What can they do, point an accusing finger at retailers? They cant choose their prices.

GSXJunkie

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No, but it would be nice for AMD to make a stand, and say that they wish to keep prices at their target ranges (270x ~$199, 280x ~$299, 290x ~$399).




I'm looking for Mantel support. And having the latest and greatest is kinda fun too :p


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I dont see why people come in a select a best answer so quick.

The reason AMD wont do that is because they still make profits off the cards. They ship the for a set price and the retailers sell them. They could say, now dont sell these for more, but the retailers already purchased the cards from AMD so they can do what they wish.
 

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Actually, AMD doesn't ship anything to retailers. AMD sells their chips to card manufacturers, card manufactures sell to distributers, and retailers buy from distributers (I know because I happen to work one of these functions :p)

AMD/card manufactures are currently selling R9 Series items to NewEgg and other large retailers to be sold at their target prices. They might only receive 10 at *most* each week, but they are making MASSIVE profits off of each one thats sold.
EDIT: NewEgg receives the 280x cards for about ~$245, and are selling them for $489. The target price is $309.
 

Kari

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memory chip problems, eh?
the vram on the 290 is clocked quite low compared to high end cards from nvidia. I would have thought it'd be easier for AMD (or AIBs) to get such chips, especially when nvidia doesn't seem to have such supply issues...
weird.
 

Kari

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the uarch of the gpus themselves shouldn't have anything to do with the vram chips... there's standards for the gddr5 interface and stuff...
 

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LiteCoin mining has been extremely profitable since November/December 2013 cryptocurrency market spike. That's where almost all of AMD's cards are going. Mining Litecoin will pay back the cost of an AMD card in about 3 months.

Until the market saturates with cryptocurrency hashpower, AMD cards are going to be hard to find. AMD isn't going to complain, their market cap and sales are skyrocketing. In other news, bitcoin recently took a massive dump, so maybe that market is stabilizing.
 


Its taking AMD more time to roll out its new chips, because they are new. Since Nvidias have been around for some time, they have the setups to make the chips faster.

Its not the memory modules that AMD is waiting on, its their Hawaiian gpus.
 

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AMD cards typically come with more memory, but I doubt its memory that's causing the shortage. AMD recently canceled the HD 7990 line, citing low sales (also partly because the R9 version was coming out, but that hasn't launched yet). HD 7990's are now selling for $1000+, almost double what they were going for 3 months ago. The reason? Ever since early November, a single HD 7990 can earn almost $20 PER DAY in LiteCoins and other cryptocurrencies.
 

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The Radeon HD7XXX series officially supports Mantle as it is based on the GCN architecture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Core_Next#Architecture
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7870/pages/radeon-7870.aspx

But as of the time I'm writing this, driver support for Mantle on 7870 is still not working as it should.