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February 10, 2014 5:35:44 PM

I have TX2z.
AMD Turion X2 Dual Core RM-74 2.2 GHz
ATI Radeon HD3200
4.00 GB installed "crucial"
64 bit
With windows Vista ultimate installed.
I'm having the black screen boot up issue. Lights on. fan on.Sounds on. Only on a restart or full boot.... Disconnecting power + battery and Pressing power button repeatedly... will normally Get me running again.... or never shut it off.... Zero issues with sleep or Hibernation....
Research commonly says its my Graphics Card.... Research also says its ancient 2009 or older substandard design.... slow. slow. slow.
Question: Since I have to have the Graphics Card removed & resoldiered?
why Can't I replace with a more current faster nice one... ? And what one would be the easiest/best?
I'm not a rocket scientist.... Trying to learn and understand....
My Concerns would be if it would plug n play? Heat issues? Compatibility? Stability issues. not burn up other components.... would current BIO setting work? would the option of overclocking be reasonable or Smart. Replacing the slow toshiba hard drive is happening soon.... Crucial recommends the wd blue hdd 1 tb sata-600. . . On paper it seems 2x faster than my current. Or maybe the Crucial M500 240GB 2.5-inch Internal SSD. . . I lose a few Gigs but dramatic improvements everywhere.
I deeply enjoy this TX2z. I truly enjoy the stability of the 64 bit Vista ultimate.... Fixing. improving. Modding is my only desire.
I don't understand pin connectors. connectability .. Voltage inputs... Voltage outputs. Requirements.... Any Guidance would be appreciated.... any Guidance to a Reputable intelligent Place in IOWA to have my board rebuilt would help alot.... I would love to hear from someone smarter than me. ...I'm ln over my head.
a c 252 V Motherboard
February 11, 2014 2:49:38 AM

is this a laptop?
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February 11, 2014 2:55:14 AM

unknownofprob said:
is this a laptop?


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a c 252 V Motherboard
February 11, 2014 2:59:10 AM

Graphics cards can be a pain to change in some laptops, just to be aware, They can draw too much power from the battery as it's current battery is designed for it's original setup. The size, it might be too large for the laptop and lastly heat, if it is a hot card then I would avoid, laptops have poor enough ventilation already and having it get too hot is not a good thing.
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February 11, 2014 3:09:49 AM

yes it is.... sorry I didn't specify.... Its the touchsmart HP Series.... Laptop swivels & folds into a writing tablet.... Can perform hands or writing on screen Gestures with Stylus Pen. I'm "Hooked" on this unit.

Another Question," it has the amd turion(tm) x2 dual-core mobile rm-74 2.20 GHz . . . Part Number TMRM74DAM22GG
My research is making me wonder if I could improve that?
With a AMD Turion X2 Ultra ZM-88 2.50 GHz. . . . Part # TMZM88DAM23GG
According to wikipedia.... its the game family. platform. S1G2 socket... etc...
Only difference is more memory & speed?
Would my current Bio's be a concern?
Sorry, I'm not even sure what the Bios does.
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February 11, 2014 3:15:16 AM

unknownofprob said:
Graphics cards can be a pain to change in some laptops, just to be aware, They can draw too much power from the battery as it's current battery is designed for it's original setup. The size, it might be too large for the laptop and lastly heat, if it is a hot card then I would avoid, laptops have poor enough ventilation already and having it get too hot is not a good thing.


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a c 252 V Motherboard
February 11, 2014 3:15:48 AM

Well with changing the CPU, You will again might have battery concerns as going for a better will draw more power from the battery, the battery might not be able to supply enough power to the devices as it can so that isn't good. With better, going up for a better CPU needs to be the exact same socket and size, which in most cases it will be the same size. Heat is also an issue, but depending on the CPU you replace it with it can be done. If you do upgrade you may/may not have to update your bios to run a new CPU, Current bios should be fine though but it will have to be updated if you change the processor.
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February 11, 2014 3:26:02 AM

yes, exactly.... that's why I have so many Questions and concerns.... I do want it faster.... Bit not burnt up... And I don't have a clue what will fit.
Worse yet.... All the so called Laptop "repair" shops I've located?? They replace OEM with OEM.... Otherwise rather ignorant.... My Best appearance was a crashed Presario F700... $300 later it was slug swimming in tar.... His Exact words ...I did a reinstall. It works. Have a nice day.
Heads up on a great IOWA repair shop world be greatly appreciated.... I'd even be willing to drive to South Central Minnesota.
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February 11, 2014 3:33:30 AM

unknownofprob said:
Well with changing the CPU, You will again might have battery concerns as going for a better will draw more power from the battery, the battery might not be able to supply enough power to the devices as it can so that isn't good. With better, going up for a better CPU needs to be the exact same socket and size, which in most cases it will be the same size. Heat is also an issue, but depending on the CPU you replace it with it can be done. If you do upgrade you may/may not have to update your bios to run a new CPU, Current bios should be fine though but it will have to be updated if you change the processor.


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February 11, 2014 3:47:38 AM

I hate to Quote wikipedia... But ive never had bad info there yet.. . the 88 does seem same in every way.... Plug... Power requirements... the same "Lion" class... whatever that means... same 1800 frequency... the HT number is different.... I still am researching that.
These TX2 's are famous for Heat issues.... Fan roaring like a helicopter launching. I can attest to that.... It is work to keep it clean + updated... for smooth Quiet hum. I'm feeling confident on the CPU swap. now.... thanks.... After I find /Buy one .....
I will be researching Bio's update.
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a c 252 V Motherboard
February 11, 2014 10:19:18 PM

just list your battery and next CPU you would like to upgrade and i'll update if it will work well or not just for re-assurance, You can upgrade your CPU in that laptop and it can be beneficial.

-As for heat, you can get a laptop cooling pad, that'll be a god way to keep own the heat.
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February 11, 2014 10:45:20 PM

unknownofprob said:
just list your battery and next CPU you would like to upgrade and i'll update if it will work well or not just for re-assurance, You can upgrade your CPU in that laptop and it can be beneficial.

-As for heat, you can get a laptop cooling pad, that'll be a god way to keep own the heat.


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February 11, 2014 11:06:48 PM

to be completely honest.... Before I started this idea.... I only Quickly did a E-Bay CPU quick price check.... I seen 80 dollar prices....
Awesome. Great. BUT NOW... I see 650 dollar price? for what I expected to be 80? The CPU I'd like? HP 507974-001 AMD Turion X2 Ultra Dual-Core ZM-86 mobile processor - 2.4GHz. . . But I wont consider investing that much.... with considering motherboard repair/ replace and possible hard drive....?
I will fix my laptop... Positively.... but I cant throw 1000 dollars in parts into a laptop that has a resale value of 300....
And I was wrong with placing to much value in wikipedia.... Some of its info about AMD processors is wrong according to the HP link you provided...
I did at least discover that my Bio's IS up to date.... The rest of my drivers should be up to date.... I used Uni blue.... then manually used Device manager and did a update check on each one individually.... clean screen... no symbols....
Can I safely pull battery to look for # while it is powered up? Turning it off is Risky... I will check the HP Manual... maybe # is there.
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February 11, 2014 11:31:16 PM

unknownofprob said:
just list your battery and next CPU you would like to upgrade and i'll update if it will work well or not just for re-assurance, You can upgrade your CPU in that laptop and it can be beneficial.

-As for heat, you can get a laptop cooling pad, that'll be a god way to keep own the heat.


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February 11, 2014 11:41:19 PM

I've tried a few of the Best Buy cooling pads.... even the USB plug in fan units... --

1/2 piece of plywood cut in a square maybe 4 inches oversize to my laptop.... Its my magic answer.... All my laptops live on the board.... Wood has no thermal Value.... retention.... They run coolest on wood.... plastic is thermal holds heat.... Builds and builds eventually fan is drawing hot air in.... its radiant
I never hear fans in the Presario or the Pavilion.... And the TX2z normally is a calm quiet Wirr. . . . I can hear it.... But its unnoticeble. .
It wants to run hot but the board works.... If it was on a sofa? It would ROAR and Burn up
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a c 252 V Motherboard
February 12, 2014 3:09:02 AM

Well if you list the parts you were going to upgrade with, I'll double check it'll work properly. I would only trust the HP website, not wikipedia for the most part.
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February 12, 2014 6:03:07 PM

unknownofprob said:
Well if you list the parts you were going to upgrade with, I'll double check it'll work properly. I would only trust the HP website, not wikipedia for the most part.


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February 12, 2014 6:42:43 PM

Thank you.... My big improvements may be shelved.... That doesn't stop me from finding used parts... A donor laptop to Cannibalize.... Retail Price of new CPU shocked me.
Currently I have: AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology Dual-Core RM-74 (2.20-GHz, 1-MB L2 cache,
800-MHz FSB)
507979-001
wish to replace with: AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology Ultra Dual-Core ZM-86 (2.40-GHz, 1-MB L2
cache, 800-MHz FSB)
507974-001
The other option: Turion X2 Ultra ZM-88[2] 2500 MHz TMZM88DAM23GG ??? Many Questions? IT. seems perfect and fastest.... It seems to have been made and specifications are everywhere.... But it doesn't exist... new. used.... on AMD's website.... at web-stores....?
Many people comment on Vista and its inability to Utilize memory well.... stating that Jumping to 8 gigs from 4 gigs ram will almost slow it down....
I like a light clean quick system... And have 4 gigs ram.... More than adequate. . . . My Question is the Hard Drive.... and picking up General Operating speed.... If I went with a slightly smaller.... Crucial M500 240GB 2.5-inch Internal SSD with Read up to (128k transfer): 500MB/s and Write up to (128k transfer): 250MB/s.... I'd be losing on my 320 GB down to 2406B...." or should I do this? Crucial M500 480GB 2.5-inch Internal SSD with Read up to (128k transfer): 500MB/s and Write up to (128k transfer): 400MB/s
I don't mind spending 280 on a drive as long as it Benefits my speed.... And long term durability.... what works best on a 64 Bit Vista?
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February 12, 2014 7:03:32 PM

what about the Graphic's card? that's where I really run into questions.... are there differences in cards that would be size? Pins? Voltage requirements? Heat output? General overall compatibility with my unit?
This is where I'm really suffering and the card in it already needs replaced / reflowed. Its a radaon HD3200 Old 2009 earlier design.... any current 2014 has to be dramatic better.... I don't care what card I buy.... just would like pointed at One.... and preferably someone to install it. IS it not feasabile with driver swapping and compatability? Maybe just fix my current board... OEM... ?
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a c 252 V Motherboard
February 12, 2014 10:51:44 PM

graphics cards come in different sizes and require different power and like everything, you'll have to measure the space available for a graphics card and list your current battery.
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