AMD FX-6350 vs FX-8350

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csmith2412

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I currently have the 6350...

1. Save the money I would spend on an 8350 and buy a nice water cooling kit and OC the hell out of the 6350?

2. Buy an 8350... wait another month and buy a nice water cooling kit... and OC the hell out of the 8350?

I just don't want to throw away $200 on a new CPU if I can get the 6350 to perform as well as an OC 8350


usage... mostly if not all for gaming.

MB = Asus M5A99FX Pro 2.0

 
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Oh, two good GPU's in SLI... good thing you updated your post.
Your CPU is the bottleneck, but a 8350 is a known bottleneck as well and wouldn't relieve the problem.
You need to go Intel.

Tom's tested this bottleneck, give me a min. I'll find the article.

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in any app/game that can't use all 6 or 8 cores, it won't make a difference. Only things that can use all 8 cores will you see any benefit.

I would, get a 8320 and a decent water cool and oc the hell out of it. 8350 plus speeds, 8 cores, cheapest of them all. The 8350's don't OC that much, they are pushing the limit of the chips really. 8320's are just downclocked 8350's so they can hit at least 8350 speeds. My 8320 I can hit 4.6 with good temps. That said, the 6xxx series can sometimes oc better just because there is less cores, means less heat, means it can go higher without hitting thermal limits and needing massive voltage.

Your motherboard will be the big factor in how much you can oc regardless of chip.

Up to you. Really, at this point maybe get an evo 212 for llike $30, oc your 6350 and then wait and see what comes next from amd. I don't think an 8320 or 8350 will be a huge jump over what you have.
 
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Every cpu is different, you may or may not be able to reach 5ghz with your cpu.

Your motherboard plays a big roll too, don't expect to get 5ghz on a 970 chipset board.

With that said, if you want to get that kind of oc from either cpu you are going to need a decent 990fx board.
 
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csmith2412

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regardless I will want to go to a watercooling setup at some point so I might as well invest now and OC the 6350. What is happening is I have 2 x GTX 770 SC ACX in SLI mode and my Benchmarks are suffering in the physics test really bad. i am hitting a major bottleneck in the CPU I think.

I don't mind spending the money... that is not an issue. I just don't like wasting money.
 
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Oh, two good GPU's in SLI... good thing you updated your post.
Your CPU is the bottleneck, but a 8350 is a known bottleneck as well and wouldn't relieve the problem.
You need to go Intel.

Tom's tested this bottleneck, give me a min. I'll find the article.

 
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If money is no issue get the 8350. Everyone says its just a higherclock/higher wattage chip, but I would like to speculate its better than the 8320 and has more head room hence if its the same chip it may be a bit more robust? Anyways if you can get it cheap get it! My i7930 crapped out last summer and I didn't have enough cash for a new i7 x79 setup and I'm saving up for whatever comes after x79.. In the mean time to utilize what I had in terms of cash/ssd/memery ect ect, I went with a 6350 and GB 990 FX UD3 MOBO with a EVO II cooler. I have overclocked that easily to 4.7 @ 1.42vcore... I could go higher, but Im maxing out my Corsair Vengence 1600 memory @ 1642. Im still mesing with memory settings, but all and all I can play any game at high settings with AMD 7850 2GB fairley well on my 1360 x 768 33" Sony Bravia...

Yes make sure you get a good motherboard if you plan to OC. ASUS is good, Thats what I had for my i7 for about 4 years... It died cause of humidity in Hawaii... I got the GB board since it says it made for humid climates... Anyhow make sure you get decent memory to oc with too...

I have to say though my 4 year old i7 930 oc to 4.1 was better or more responsive than my new system in terms of multitasking and think the triple channel memory helped out a lot there.... but after x79 it goes DDR 4 with quad channel I believe and by the time that comes out the Oculus Rift will be out too...

Good luck!
 
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Here is the article, you should dissect it for your knowledge:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-core-i7-3770k-gaming-bottleneck,3407-8.html
The 8350 bottlenecked the Radeon 7970's vs. an i7-3770K. But your GTX 770's would be in a similar bottleneck.

Your system is weird. It's like you did you homework and know the most important thing is the GPU(s). But then based it on an AMD build? Which is just too far down the scale.

Anyway, ideally you would get an i7. Probably a 4770K at this point in time. Although an i5-4670 would be a good choice as well. LGA 1150 has a lot of life left in it.

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As for lower end builds. FM2+ is the future for AMD.
AM3+ is pretty much dead. And the 8350 is old(2012), you don't want to spending a dime on that platform.
 
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wdmfiber... funny you mention that lol I started with an HP 1534 computer that I bought a year ago brand new. (waste of money). it was an amd so I basically decided to start upgrading it. Started with a case.... MB... then kept upgrading. down to CPU and Memory and then I am about done. Just want to watercool it an OC.

I might go intel but I want to wait to see what hits this year as far as CPUs go. I want to get my moneys worth out of what I got before i go buying a new MB and CPU. after all i just got this Asus MB a few weeks ago.
 
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The Intel chip is also $120 more than the AMD. And you can pick some games and apps that show the AMD beat the intel. All comes down to what benchmarks you use.
 
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Ya, I updated a few things on my post. An i5-4670 would be fine.

However if you can live with the bottleneck, you don't have to spend anything. But it sucks having those nice GPU's "tied down".
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Keep you eye on the new AMD "steamroller" chips too. The cores are a lot stronger(25+%) than the weak FX "bulldozer/piledriver" design. Even with integrated graphics the 4 core A10-7850K stands it's ground against the FX 6300(similar TDP):
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-A10-7850K
 
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The clear answer here is go intel. Numbers don't lie. I have never OC before so I will get some practice on my 6350. Maybe in April I might switch to intel. Thanks for all the help everyone.
 
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usually, depending on the price point and where you live, etc.

In the states, the 8350 vs the i5 is only like $30 more, in Canada it's $150 more and the i7 is like $200+ more here, so I went 8320. If the intel chips were more closely priced over here like in the states, I might have went intel.
 
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In Canada an i5-4670K is $25 more. $230 vs. $255
That's at newegg.ca, but shop anywhere... TigerDirect.ca, NCIX, Best Buy, FutureShop, ect...
Prices are always changing, there are sales... but no where is an i5 $50 dollars more, let alone $150.

But the point is mute on this thread anyway. csmith2412 has $700+ in new GPU's. Clearly the guy isn't "counting his pennies".

 
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