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Lynden

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http://www.frys.com/product/7912040

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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-essentio-desktop-12gb-memory-2tb-hard-drive/3026586.p?id=1219086172072&skuId=3026586#tab=specifications

I'm leaning more towards on the latter. I'm not a hardware pro, In fact, I suck at reading these. But I think the ASUS one is much better isn't it? I'm gonna buy a desktop for mostly gaming and I'm just confused on what to pick between the two. Also where can I find benchmarks to see what the performance are on the specs of that PC on the link.

Thank you.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2RyC2
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2RyC2/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2RyC2/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @...
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Yes, the ASUS is better.

A better processor, the graphics card has more available memory, and it has 4GB more of RAM. However I can't seem to find any specifications about the motherboard, so future upgrades may not be possible. Also the power supplies aren't really named.

What are you looking to do with the PC? You could get something much better if you were to assemble it yourself.
 
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Hi,

A peace of advice, go to a local store and make them build a pc for you. You can print these build and most likely save up to 20 % and also get better warranty on the.

For gaming you want a core i5 + gtx 760 minimum.

Between the two I would get the fry one since it's more reputable than best buy.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ry6E
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ry6E/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ry6E/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1031.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-11 17:32 EST-0500)

Here you go. The i5 4670k is unlocked and ready to be overclocked on the Z87 motherboard if you so wish (if not I could change it to a locked CPU and a cheaper motherboard). It's arguably one of the best CPUs for gaming. The GTX 770 is better than the 760. The PSU is 80+ Gold certified, so it's extremely efficient.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2RyC2
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2RyC2/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2RyC2/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1014.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-11 17:47 EST-0500)

The Xeon 1230v3 is basically the equivalent of the i7 4770. The only real difference is that it doesn't have integrated graphics, which are disabled once you use a dedicated graphics card. It also consumes less power.
 
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A few questions:

Is this hard to build once I order all these? Do I need any screws to order or everything's covered by the computer case and the components? When installing the cpu do I need those thermal paste?

Anyways, I might just order all these parts and have a local computer shop assemble it. I suppose you got any idea how much it'll cost for them to assemble this? Also (relate to 1st question) I don't need to give them anything once they start assembling it. (ex, thermal paste, screws)

Thank you so much for your help.
 
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It's not hard to build. Basically the only tool you need is a philips head screwdriver and possibly an adjustable wrench. The case provides all the screws and the motherboard and powersupply come with all the necessary cables. Assembly generally takes 1-2 hours, probably closer to the 1h especially if you are familiar with the process. My guess is they would charge you around $100 for it.
 
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Weird systems.. The Fry's one has water cooling but a locked CPU. The Best Buy one has a low power variant of the I7 (BGA) that is soldered to the board. These were built for tablets or AIO systems. The Best buy one should be quicker but it has the oem version of the 760 I think due to the odd memory quantity. I don't know the bechmarks on the OEM version i think they are slower than stock cards. The fry's one has a stock retail 760. An I5 with a better card may actually beat the I7 low power in games. I'd probably take the best buy one but research that 3 gig 760. What the 12 gigs of Ram in the best buy system is it a bga 2011 board? The 4770s with 66 watt TDP will cut out of turbo mode a lot not as fast as a vanilla 4770 but still fantastically fast. I don't know how I would feel about a bga chip. I like the option to reuse a cpu when a MB dies.
 
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