Which should i use for adobe? gtx 770 or 760?

Zaszaka

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Ok... so i have a Amd fx 8320, Radon HD 7770 and 16 GB of G-skill rip-jaw ram.

Now, when I am trying to use Adobe Premiere pro CC and do simple things like add Red Giant Looks to a clip or put it in reverse and add the Black and White preset to it i get crazy dropped frames and a lot of lagging.

I also use After Effects, Photoshop, and Sony Vegas.

So the question is will I see enough performance boost to use with going with the gtx 770 over the 760 especially with the 80$-100$ preice difference.

Oh and i also do light gaming like Skyrim, Saints Row, COD Ghosts, light stuff at 1080p.


-Thanks in advance.
 
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OpenGL (as in Open = free for all ) is not nVidia only thing and both companies are quite equal in that area (except in linux, AMD has bad drivers over threre) and they are trading blows depending on the case. Average price to performance AMD even has a slight edge.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,3519-20.html

Anyway you don't research your problem. Get CPUZ and GPUZ or something on look when rendering is your CPU at full load or is your GPU at full load. If your CPU is the one that is at full load - you know who to blame. Because those effects are GPU accelerated, but not GPU dependent. Also view port is not like rendering. It does not scale up to the full CPU power. So IPC and MHZ here count more...

Shneiky

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Adobe Premier Pro CC has almost the same support for OpenCL as much as CUDA and CUDA being a bit predominant. Photoshop and Sony Vegas is OpenCL based. AE has some CUDA acceleration of 3D layers but that is it.

AMD video cards are a lot better at OpenCL than their nVidia counterparts. An AMD video card does outperform nVIdia card which costs +50% even +100% more when it comes to OpenCL.

Now when that is cleared - all these programs are GPU accelerated. They are not GPU computed. Or in other words - the GPU can help as much as the CPU can handle. The point I am trying to make - you are either CPU bound or HDD bound. My 2700k also slows down when I have a descent quality raw clip and add auto color/auto contrasts which should be fairly simple.

Putting a GTX 770/760 will maybe increase your performance and lower your render times, depending on the case, or maybe not. The best way to increase performance here is CPU power. Premier Pro is GPU accelerated, but acceleration can not do miracles in this case.

On a side note, try using SSDs. Like putting your project files and the Premier Pro temporary files on an SSD. That might help you.
 

Zaszaka

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While i do agree with you that the AMD is better at the OpenCL computing and Nivida is better at OpenGL, But with having one of the best FX Processors a decent amount of RAM and 7200RPM drives the only thing that is not up to high end is my GPU. On top of that i really only hit an issue with Adobe is when I go and try to add Red Giant Products to my Sequence. then the render bar goes from Yellow to Red and out of say 300 frames in the file 2 will actually play on my screen. So when i went into the settings of the Magic Bullet Looks GUI it says i can either run off of CPU only or CPU and GPU(OpenGL) which is a Nivida only thing.

Secondly when i go to render with magic bullet looks it took things that will usually render in real time (17 Minute Clip) to take 4 Hours to render. The only thing that has not been recently upgraded to my system is my gpu and considering it is a low end and i am looking into mid to high end gpu's there is going ot be a difference especcially when the effects i am using are GPU dependent.

Now back to the original question am i going to see enough of a difference to go with a 770 over a 760, and is it worth the $80-$100 price difference.

Thanks :)
 

Shneiky

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OpenGL (as in Open = free for all ) is not nVidia only thing and both companies are quite equal in that area (except in linux, AMD has bad drivers over threre) and they are trading blows depending on the case. Average price to performance AMD even has a slight edge.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,3519-20.html

Anyway you don't research your problem. Get CPUZ and GPUZ or something on look when rendering is your CPU at full load or is your GPU at full load. If your CPU is the one that is at full load - you know who to blame. Because those effects are GPU accelerated, but not GPU dependent. Also view port is not like rendering. It does not scale up to the full CPU power. So IPC and MHZ here count more than core count.

Also a 7200 RPM drive is not near optimal. Heck, I can't even play back most of the HQ exports from it real time. Try updating your drivers if you haven't, That might solve your problem as well.

In the end of the day, it is your money, your choice. Does 770 offer enough to justify itself over 760? For me - it doesn't. 760 + SDD will offer much more than 770 for the same money. SSD will most of the times offer much more than going from a 7770/650ti to 7950/760/R9 270 card.

Cheers.
 
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Zaszaka

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Ok thanks. I Think I'm gunna go with the 770 B/c when I render I am locKed at 100 on the gpu is at 1-5%. Also no bitcoin markup.
 

Zaszaka

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As I stated before I have one font best cups that and offers at the moment on the am3+ socket. And the only reason that it is getting pushed this far is the fact that I am trying to use red giant looks. Which renders on the cpu only unless you have a Nivida gpu with cuda if you have workstation level stuff. So please don't tell me I need a new cpu when I have been doing this for years and know that it is the gpu. The only reason I listed the specs of my computer is so that you can give me something that is on par with rhe specs of my system.
 

Shneiky

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You might be doing this for years - I am doing it for decades. I am trying to help you here. The fact that you have a "front" best CPU on the AM3+ socket does not mean a cent. AMD CPUs are good for rendering but are bad for workflow. Deal with it. All of Adobe products are GPU accelerated, not GPU calculated - deal with it. Go buy 770 if it is your wish. Since you are ignoring everything I am trying to say and you are not willing to even try and help yourself - it is your wish. You are spending your own money.