problem installing the ssd

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

Hi everyone,

I recently installed a new ssd into my laptop, with the hope of making the operating system boot up quicker. However after installing it and using macrium reflect to (copy?) the operating system and stuff, I swapped the ssd with the regular hard drive to test if the laptop turns on with everything on it and this is where the problem arose, as it failed to start up. What the PC says exactly is;

"Recovery

Your PC needs to be repaired.

The application operating system couldn’t be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors.

File:\windows\system32\winload.efi

Error code: 0xc0000225”.

But when I put in the original hard drive in the optical drive through a caddy everything seems to work fine but the load times are still the same. I've also tried to go into bios and check if the boot order is wrong, but it doesn't seem to be.

My guess is that I missed something out when I copied the hard drive to the SSD, but I made sure that all the ones with a windows logo in the corner were to be copied in the SSD. The only file that I left out was one labeled as “6 – Recovery (none) NTFS Primary” this was because there was no space left in the SSD, but I figured it will still be kept in the hard drive.

Here is a list of the six partitions if anyone was interested, I left out the last one as there was no space left in the SSD;
1. SONYSYS(None) FAT32 (LBA) Primary
2. Windows RE tools (None) NTFS Primary
3. (Has a windows icon next to this) NO NAME FAT32 (LBA) Primary
4. (Has a windows icon next to this) NONE Unformatted Primary
5. (Has a windows icon next to this) (C: ) NTFS Primary
6. Recovery (None) NTFS Primary

Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Quarkzquarkz · Feb 12, 2014

Never ever do a mirror copy, For #1, if the size is different from the HDD, that's bound to come up as an error. If you pick and choose which files to copy, that's another error prone situation. Always wipe clean and re-format, set new partition and start fresh. Your Laptop will be blazing fast with an SSD and you can pretty much run all games on Ultra especially if it's a Lenovo y510p! Good luck~!!

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

Quarkzquarkz :

so....what are you trying to say here?

ThatVietGuy · Feb 12, 2014

That you need to wipe the SSD and install a FRESH copy of Windows.

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

With a new drive, especially an SSD, the best method is simply a fresh install.
Does the clone thing work? Usually. But I always recommend a fresh install.

If you take 200 users that just got a new drive, small SSD or larger HDD, or whatever....
Divide them into two groups of 100 each. 1 group clones the OS from old to new drive. The other group of 100 does a fresh install.

The clone group will have many more issues than the fresh install group.

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

ThatVietGuy :

Sorry, but I don't think this is possible as I have windows 8, which doesn't come with a disk, also the laptop works as long as the original hard drive is there.

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

Justaskin :

1. With the original dive in, is there a facility to create Restore disks?
2. What are the drive sizes, old and new?

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

USAFRet :

Fresh install is a problem for me as windows 8 doesn't come with a disk, otherwise I agree fresh install is much easier. Could there be another way?

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

Justaskin :

There should be a facility to create them from the factory restore function.
This may not work due to differing drive sizes, though.

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

USAFRet :

Answer to question 1. No, I've taken out the optical drive to make room for the hard drive.
" "2. If you mean form factor, 2.5. In terms of actual dimensions, i'm not sure.

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

Justaskin :

USAFRet :

Answer to question 1. No, I've taken out the optical drive to make room for the hard drive.
" "2. If you mean form factor, 2.5. In terms of actual dimensions, i'm not sure.

I meant GB size. Cloning a 500GB HDD to a 128GB SSD will be problematic.

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

USAFRet :

Justaskin :

I meant GB size. Cloning a 500GB HDD to a 128GB SSD will be problematic.

oh, I see your point, 750gb to a 64gb, but all i wanted to copy was the operating system, and its a new laptop with nothing on it.

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

There's a couple issues here.

1. Licensing. That OS is licensed to that original laptop. It *will* deactivate, and reactivation is questionable/unlikely.

2. Obviously, drive size. There is only one application I know of that can move 'just' the OS. But all else will be screwed up

3. Now the other laptop is left without an OS. In effect, a brick. One license, one PC.

4. A 64GB drive is, IMHO, too small. It works, but you'll be chasing free space forever.

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

New laptop, buy a new OS.

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

Adding:
If it is a different PC/laptop, a clone will generally not work. Different chipset, etc.

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

USAFRet :

(4) Everywhere I did research stated that 64gb is fine, as long as you don't put too much on it, which suited me perfectly as all I needed it for was the OS, (supposedly only 30 – 40gb)

3) Kind of think you misunderstood me. I bought the SSD separately, in other words it didn't come from another computer and the hard drive already came with the laptop.

2) By everything being ‘screwed’ does that mean 'factory reset' if so I don't mind as the laptop is literally brand new, I’m happy as long as there is the OS.

1) This is the original laptop.

USAFRet · Feb 12, 2014

OK. I thought you meant a different laptop.

64GB will work. However:
I have a 128 SSD as my boot drive. Just recently upgraded from 8 to 8.1. OS and applications, currently 46GB used space on it.
You need to leave 10-15% free for TRIM. So that leaves about 50GB usable space from a 64GB drive. With my use, one big download (Linux distro) would eat up that extra space.

But since you already have it, see if you can get the Restore disks from the manufacturer.
Or put it back together as original, and see if you can try the clone thing again.

Justaskin · Feb 12, 2014

USAFRet :

Thanks for your help, will give it a go.

oh, sorry for bugging you.

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